Where's the fire?

Sting864

Why do people think they are "leets" because they can sprint through dungeons... skipping loads of content? That's very ignorant and unappreciative of all the hard work and time spent by the developers to provide a breathtaking environment in which players can enjoy questing with others... If players don't care about that, the developers have made a huge spot called Cyrodiil where they can go fight with other "rushins" (not Russians...)
I don't understand how players can rush through content and then whine and moan about ZOS not providing enough content... Then if ZOS acquiesces, they proceed to gobble-up that content without chewing... So I don't want to hear any content complaints from people who don't appreciate the content they have...
Look, I know experience scrolls are a time-limited thing, I know anniversary cake is a time-limited thing... (although the cake's infinitely renewable, and who doesn't want MOAR CAKE?? ) But also remember that your "umpteenth time" may be someone else's first...
Group Dungeons are for GROUPS, not just rushin through... The bottom line is: If you don't care about content, go PvP with people who aren't really concerned with content, either... Don't ruin it for those of us who appreciate ZOS's work...

AlienatedGoat

Do the same dungeon hundreds of times, then come back.

neverwalk

start your own group, put out call in chat for people who wanna do group dungeons to slowly explore it's full content.

Seraphayel

You know what's worse? Light armour "tanks" (at least queuing as tanks) wanting to rush through a dungeon and getting killed by every single mob group because... they're no tanks.

(P.S.: if you've done a dungeon already 50 times rushing is the only way to somehow endure the dungeon)

redspecter23

You play the way you want. I'll play the way I want. If you're looking for a specific type of group whether it's slow, fast or whatever, put it together from guilds, friends, zone, etc. Using group finder with any sort of expectation of anything is just asking for disappointment.

VaranisArano

If I'm sprinting through a dungeon, its because:

A. No one said they needed the quest. Speak up!

B. I forgot where to stop for the quest dialogue because I've done this dungeon 100+ times, sorry.

Sergykid

the first 20 times i enjoyed every leaf and rock dungeon showed. But after a while, i learned them that i don't even need to see them anymore. It became a race with myself, on how fast i can finish it. I always wait for someone to say he needs quest or an item from the run, so i know to not skip or rush, but if nobody talks then i just flash through it.

Sting864

Phage wrote: »

Do the same dungeon hundreds of times, then come back.

Actually, I've been doing them since before public release (I joined ESO in 2013... the forums in 2014...), so this isn't an argument...

All responses seem to be "I want this..." or "I play this way..." This seems very self-centered... I think the purpose of Group content is to enjoy content as a group... If people are just rushin' through what incentive does ZOS have to provide quality content with their excellent attention to detail??

Valkysas154

I would not mind a dungeon where the boss's call all the mobs you would have faced be for getting tot hat boss if you did not kill them all but i would not want every dungeon like that

Sting864

Valkysas154 wrote: »

I would not mind a dungeon where the boss's call all the mobs you would have faced be for getting tot hat boss if you did not kill them all but i would not want every dungeon like that

I love, love, LOVE this idea.... or make the mobs just carry from one mini-boss to the next... that'll slow people down... because if I intelligently and deliberately consume content... I'm not to excited about fighting the mobs that were skipped by myself...

SBC

Sting864 wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Do the same dungeon hundreds of times, then come back.

Actually, I've been doing them since before public release (I joined ESO in 2013... the forums in 2014...), so this isn't an argument...

All responses seem to be "I want this..." or "I play this way..." This seems very self-centered... I think the purpose of Group content is to enjoy content as a group... If people are just rushin' through what incentive does ZOS have to provide quality content with their excellent attention to detail??

That goes both ways though. If they want to do it fast, but you want to do it slow, then that's self-centered on both sides right? You're not likely going to find a pug group that hasn't done it a million times and wants to actually walk through the whole thing again. I didn't like it when I first started because I missed everything, but I found a guild that had people willing to go through it slowly.

Now? Ya I just want to sprint through all the old vanilla stuff.

illusiouk

Start your own group like others have said. That way you can do the dungeon at the same pace but doing a dungeon with randoms who have done that dungeon a hundred times before believe me it's boring as hell doing it over and over again hence why they just want to get it over with.
If you must do it with randoms speak up, most players will slow down for you.

Sting864

SBC wrote: »

That goes both ways though. If they want to do it fast, but you want to do it slow, then that's self-centered on both sides right? You're not likely going to find a pug group that hasn't done it a million times and wants to actually walk through the whole thing again. I didn't like it when I first started because I missed everything, but I found a guild that had people willing to go through it slowly.

Now? Ya I just want to sprint through all the old vanilla stuff.

I don't think that DOES go both ways... If one player cannot fight mobs that have been skipped by others by himself he's forced to skip them, too, right?? Whereas the "rushin'" still gets to fight the boss AND the additional enemies... Unless rushing is considered a playstyle... If so, it doesn't matter if the content is of the quality which ZOS provides... so they would be just as happy, happier perhaps, in a different MMO...

zaria

Some tips. do the quest in normal mode at least if you want to listen to dialogue. If inexperienced with dungeon doing it normal first is always smart anyway.
Say you have quest, let the others run ahead, unless an high dps gear farming group you will catch up before next boss.
if they wipe because of no healer or tank its their problem.

You might want to drop quest, remember doing it then doing the two new dungeons as I alsways ended up midway in pug and wanted the story, solved by guild run.

cbro72

The developers did also include speed runs for all the dungeons. Just sayin

redspecter23

Sting864 wrote: »

SBC wrote: »

That goes both ways though. If they want to do it fast, but you want to do it slow, then that's self-centered on both sides right? You're not likely going to find a pug group that hasn't done it a million times and wants to actually walk through the whole thing again. I didn't like it when I first started because I missed everything, but I found a guild that had people willing to go through it slowly.

Now? Ya I just want to sprint through all the old vanilla stuff.

I don't think that DOES go both ways... If one player cannot fight mobs that have been skipped by others by himself he's forced to skip them, too, right?? Whereas the "rushin'" still gets to fight the boss AND the additional enemies... Unless rushing is considered a playstyle... If so, it doesn't matter if the content is of the quality which ZOS provides... so they would be just as happy, happier perhaps, in a different MMO...

Why are you choosing to play with other people that don't share your preferred playstyle? Dungeon finder isn't the answer to anything other than "I need 3 other people". It won't find you nice people or capable people or even people performing the roles they state they will perform. All it will do is find 3 other people. If you want anything more than that, you should find 3 friends. You really honestly will enjoy yourself more.

Sting864

cbro72 wrote: »

The developers did also include speed runs for all the dungeons. Just sayin

Then shouldn't people rushin' for speed runs say something??

VaranisArano wrote: »

If I'm sprinting through a dungeon, its because:

A. No one said they needed the quest. Speak up!

So if I'm NOT sprinting through a Dungeon maybe it's because A. No one said they WEREN'T DOING the quest. Speak up!

VaranisArano

Sting864 wrote: »

cbro72 wrote: »

The developers did also include speed runs for all the dungeons. Just sayin

Then shouldn't people rushin' for speed runs say something??

VaranisArano wrote: »

If I'm sprinting through a dungeon, its because:

A. No one said they needed the quest. Speak up!

So if I'm NOT sprinting through a Dungeon maybe it's because A. No one said they WEREN'T DOING the quest. Speak up!

When you are the tank, you can set the pace. I main a tank and appreciate polite DPS who let me pull mobs for them to mow down, so I try to return the favor when I'm not the tank. If I'm tanking, I don't sprint so whoever rushes ahead better be capable of handling themselves til I get there.

I'll also ask if anyone needs quest or gear, so again, Speak up! If you dont say anything, no one knows until you stand still at the talking bits and if no one's watching, you get left behind.

myskyrim26

I rush through delves when doing events requiring it - Jester's, Witches, Anniversary. But all other time I slowly exaime each delve and it's story, as delves are amazing. I wish I there was a solo option for dungeons so that I could spend a lot of time there.

MLGProPlayer

Sting864 wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Do the same dungeon hundreds of times, then come back.

Actually, I've been doing them since before public release (I joined ESO in 2013... the forums in 2014...), so this isn't an argument...

All responses seem to be "I want this..." or "I play this way..." This seems very self-centered... I think the purpose of Group content is to enjoy content as a group... If people are just rushin' through what incentive does ZOS have to provide quality content with their excellent attention to detail??

It doesn't matter when you started playing. What matters is how many times you've done the content. No sane person is going to slowly walk through a dungeon they've already completed more than 3 times. And some of us have competed these dungeons over 100 times.

And ZOS clearly wants you to rush through the content given all the speed run achievements, and that dungeon bosses drop set gear for you to farm (farming encourages efficient clearing).

Waffennacht

Maybe if there was like a real story or adventure.

It's just Gab Gab Gab 5 mobs Gab Gab Gab 5 mobs boss speech (maybe) done.

There's hardly Any NPC movement/content. Best I can think of is when you put the goblin head on a pike and the goblins gather and hail you (which lasts 5 secs?)

ZOS_GregoryV

Greetings all,

Just a friendly reminder to keep things civil and constructive.

Thanks,
-Greg-