Thanks for allowing Skyshards to be brought to other characters. Thread closed.

RebornV3x

Yes

exeeter702

I feel for console players honestly. Lore book hunting on console is mind numbing.

I do think revealing skyshards and lorebooks for account per each zone that you have collected every skyshards and per each catorgy of books for which you have collected every volume would be a fair thing to implement.

VilniusNastavnik

As someone with 8 characters, all levelled up the long way, and near max CP, and all with Lorebooks and or skyshards depending on stam or mag, I support this move.

- Skyshards
- Lorebooks
- Mount Training
- Achievements

Should all be Account wide not character wise.

The people who say, it will remove from the game experience, or you will stop playing the game.

It takes... 24 hours at most on a DPS load out and the "Skyshards" and "Lorebooks" add on to get them all. Throw in "Destination" and you will have every wayshrine at the same time.

Making achievements account wide would not impact anything at all. You would still need to to the quests to get their respective skill points.. Just be able have one big achievement list visible from all toons. I cannot think of any other game where achievement are not account wide.

Mount training will never be made account wide. Zos gets too much money from selling riding lessons to PvP Players looking to get their horse leveled at day 1. There is no where in PvE that you need mounts to be trained at all. Would be nice though.

Tetrafy

Narvuntien wrote: »

No.
What is even the point of playing the game if you aren't even going to play the game?

Just get everything for free?

I can assure you Ive played the game. But making it easier to jump on other characters would be nice. Especially since the cause/effect would be small. Change is good, and the only ones who would seem to be upset are those that spent the time doing it in the first place. Im diferent I guess, I prefer to make the experience better for the next person. Yes I'm on console, we don't get add ons.

Tetrafy

neverwalk wrote: »

NO and i repeat NO. Bad enough with CP account-wide. I can start new Toon and as soon as he/she spawns into game at level 3, i can open Champion points and apply 720 cp to a level 3 Toon. HOGWASH. CP grind only happens once per account.

You're concerned because more people would be using meteor? Again, how is this a negative thing? I'm not by any means a veteran I came from FFXIV endgame and comp Halo so generally I only post if it's something that could bring more to make other characters. Most I'm sure stick with a main because of this alone. Do you enjoy hunting because I'm sure most would like to do it once not 8 times.

MLGProPlayer

Narvuntien wrote: »

No.
What is even the point of playing the game if you aren't even going to play the game?

Just get everything for free?

You've already played the game though.

MLGProPlayer

exeeter702 wrote: »

MAEK wrote: »

idk wrote: »

...!. granting the huge amount of skill points all the sky shards grant to any ne lvl 1 character rolled is doubtful to interest Zos for what should be obvious reasons...

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

...Not going into how broken it would be to start a new character and have a plethora of skill points...

Could someone please explain to me why this would be bad? I mean, you don't really have anything to spend those skillpoints on when you're low leveled.

The skill points themselves not so much, but lore books, level 1 go to mages guild, join up, boom meteor in you pocket.

I mean its not really game breaking honestly.

It doesn't matter because new players wouldn't be able to do this.

exeeter702

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

MAEK wrote: »

idk wrote: »

...!. granting the huge amount of skill points all the sky shards grant to any ne lvl 1 character rolled is doubtful to interest Zos for what should be obvious reasons...

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

...Not going into how broken it would be to start a new character and have a plethora of skill points...

Could someone please explain to me why this would be bad? I mean, you don't really have anything to spend those skillpoints on when you're low leveled.

The skill points themselves not so much, but lore books, level 1 go to mages guild, join up, boom meteor in you pocket.

I mean its not really game breaking honestly.

It doesn't matter because new players wouldn't be able to do this.

not entirely sure how that is relevant though. The op made a request that would benefit accounts that have already done the leg work. I was simply making a snide remark regarding how it could make fresh alts strong (not really) by having an ult earlier than usual is all.

ToolWorX

Horse training should be per mount. Not per character.

Anotherone773

Defilted wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

Make it so the locations are added to your map account wide after discovering the location of a skyshard or lore book.

There is an addon for that and you dont even need to discover locations first. In fact addons significantly enhance gameplay so much i would never dream of playing this game on console. Skyshard, lore book, quest locations...harvestmap, awesomeguildstore, mastermerchant, craftstore, TTC... i could go on. I cant imagine playing the game without all those addons that make the game much more bearable.

XBOX

I know which is why i said the last line. I wouldnt support every character being automatically given those items but would support that once shards, lorebooks, quest givers, and wayshrines are found by one character the location is shared with all other characters on that account.

AlnilamE

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

As someone with 8 characters, all levelled up the long way, and near max CP, and all with Lorebooks and or skyshards depending on stam or mag, I support this move.

- Skyshards
- Lorebooks
- Mount Training
- Achievements

Should all be Account wide not character wise.

The people who say, it will remove from the game experience, or you will stop playing the game.

It takes... 24 hours at most on a DPS load out and the "Skyshards" and "Lorebooks" add on to get them all. Throw in "Destination" and you will have every wayshrine at the same time.

Making achievements account wide would not impact anything at all. You would still need to to the quests to get their respective skill points.. Just be able have one big achievement list visible from all toons. I cannot think of any other game where achievement are not account wide.

Mount training will never be made account wide. Zos gets too much money from selling riding lessons to PvP Players looking to get their horse leveled at day 1. There is no where in PvE that you need mounts to be trained at all. Would be nice though.

How is that bolded part an argument FOR making that account wide while taking away the pleasure people of people who don't play their characters as a DPS machine of finding the skyshards and lore books again?

Dead skyshards are sad skyshards.

One of the best things about bringing a new character into a zone is that the skyshards are there to be collected.

disintegr8

Do not agree with it at all. Not all of my characters can, or should be able to, use the Master Angler or Tamriel Hero title just because I have achieved them on one toon.

I see it as unreasonable to have a new character at mages guild 10, with as many skill points as they need (but can't use yet) and at 60/60/60 in horse training on day 1 - just because you have done all of this on one character.

I am working on character number 14 and can actually remember where all of the skyshards and delves are. Most of my magic toons are at Mages guild 10 and only 2 characters are not 60/60/60 in horse training. Maybe my new toons should all be 9 trait crafters as well because, well, I did it on one and that should be enough.

No thanks, all fine as it is.

Anotherone773

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

As someone with 8 characters, all levelled up the long way, and near max CP, and all with Lorebooks and or skyshards depending on stam or mag, I support this move.

- Skyshards
- Lorebooks
- Mount Training
- Achievements

Should all be Account wide not character wise.

The people who say, it will remove from the game experience, or you will stop playing the game.

It takes... 24 hours at most on a DPS load out and the "Skyshards" and "Lorebooks" add on to get them all. Throw in "Destination" and you will have every wayshrine at the same time.

Making achievements account wide would not impact anything at all. You would still need to to the quests to get their respective skill points.. Just be able have one big achievement list visible from all toons. I cannot think of any other game where achievement are not account wide.

Mount training will never be made account wide. Zos gets too much money from selling riding lessons to PvP Players looking to get their horse leveled at day 1. There is no where in PvE that you need mounts to be trained at all. Would be nice though.

I dont know what they put in your Red Bull, but it wasnt caffeine. There are 405 shards in this game. We will ignore the fact that all of them are not accessible without certain conditions being met first and just assume they are. Just to collect shards alone in a 24 hour period means you have to collect a shard every 4 minutes.

And cyrodiil takes a lot longer, especially if your side doesnt own most of the map. I spent 2 hours collecting 10 shards in enemy territory one night running straight from shard to shard. Have you ever run around morrowind? No shortcuts, have to run the entire outskirts of the island. Some zones are hilly and mountainous requiring you to go around things sometimes WAY around them to get to a shard that is only a minute away if you could just run straight to it. And you have to search for shards, In some delves they are on a different level. You have to know what level they are on and how to get to it which includes running through half the delve or more to get to it.

Add the fact that if you dont have shards yet you probably dont have very many shrines unlocked and then add lorebooks on top of this. There are nearly 100 lorebooks in auridon alone. Even if you were efficient it would take you a couple of hours to collect them all in just auridon. Plus hundreds of wayshrines.

Even if your were built for speed and not dps you couldnt hit all locations in a 24 hour period. And your going to have to fight things a long the way. Many shards are guarded even if you manage to avoid most of the mobs to get to them. Public dungeons shards are fun you either have to be able to tank and kill groups of mobs, or sneak by them. And a few are very close to bosses.

You could probably unlock all shrines in 24 hours with some time leftover, but your not doing 405 shards in that time and definitely not with lorebooks in that too.

MeltyLotus

Take the speed and stam riding lessons and don't make them account wide but make them per mount.

The inventory increase can remain per character but be upgrade by the bag merchant.

It makes more sense to train the mount anyway.

Iluvrien

Tetrafy wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

No.
What is even the point of playing the game if you aren't even going to play the game?

Just get everything for free?

I can assure you Ive played the game. But making it easier to jump on other characters would be nice. Especially since the cause/effect would be small. Change is good, and the only ones who would seem to be upset are those that spent the time doing it in the first place. Im diferent I guess, I prefer to make the experience better for the next person. Yes I'm on console, we don't get add ons.

For me, a character is the sum of their experiences in game and their properties (stats, gear etc.).

If you are "jump"ing between characters with the experiences (lorebook and skyshard collecting) from one being copied from one to another then how are you still playing a character? It sounds far more like you want a set of mechanical templates that you can switch between for endgame purposes... not characters.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Narvuntien wrote: »

No.
What is even the point of playing the game if you aren't even going to play the game?

Just get everything for free?

Not really free if you had to get them once or in my case 15 times.

I agree it would be beyond broken if you just get it at level one but it can be something you get at level 50 just like jumping to your max CP.

When you are 5-15 characters in there is no sense of adventure. You can do everything in all three Alliances on one character so you don’t even have a new point of view. Achievements need to stay Character based. All classes can do hit the same marks in PvE content but all class can go a hill and hit E for 1/3 of a skill point.

Avalon

I definitely agree with the skyshard part, because, Cyrodiil. Screw that place. I already hate PvP to begin with... but, often, my side doesn’t control hardly anything, so, hunting shards becomes near impossible.

Katahdin

ToolWorX wrote: »

Horse training should be per mount. Not per character.

It was like that at the beginning of the game. People hated it and it got changed to per character when they introduced new mounts.

If it went back to per mount, the sales of new mounts would plummet because there is no way in hell people are going to constantly grind to train a new mount. I would have one mount and all 14 character would use that one mount because mount training is tedious.

Slick_007

if you want to use the skills from skyshards and lore books, you earn them on THIS toon. You dont pick the easiest toon to run through everything once and let all your other wimpy toons benefit.

starkerealm

ToolWorX wrote: »

Horse training should be per mount. Not per character.

Used to be, in fact. It was changed to the per character model with the introduction of the crown store, specifically so you wouldn't have to level up a new mount every time you wanted to ride something new and cool looking.

starkerealm

exeeter702 wrote: »

MAEK wrote: »

idk wrote: »

...!. granting the huge amount of skill points all the sky shards grant to any ne lvl 1 character rolled is doubtful to interest Zos for what should be obvious reasons...

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

...Not going into how broken it would be to start a new character and have a plethora of skill points...

Could someone please explain to me why this would be bad? I mean, you don't really have anything to spend those skillpoints on when you're low leveled.

The skill points themselves not so much, but lore books, level 1 go to mages guild, join up, boom meteor in you pocket.

I mean its not really game breaking honestly.

Yeah, Meteor is a very solid ultimate, and there's a few really good abilities buried in the Mages Guild tree that could screw balance for lowbies. Instant Lorebook access would create a situation where the moment you stepped in Cyrodiil at level 10, in the sub 50 campaign, you could bombard people from orbit, which would shift that campaign even harder in favor of players who know what they're doing and have practiced their skills on the Vet campaigns.

Aesthier

Narvuntien wrote: »

No.
What is even the point of playing the game if you aren't even going to play the game?

Just get everything for free?

But you aren't getting everything for free, you are required to go out and find those items on the first toon.

So... yeah not free LOL

The_Protagonist

I would like this as an option.

Jura23

Tetrafy wrote: »

As much as I love to re collect 1000 collectables it would be nice to only have to do this once per account. Nothing burns out new users more than a necessary grind to make other characters viable.

It's not necessary.

Chairo_Kuma

Defilted wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

Make it so the locations are added to your map account wide after discovering the location of a skyshard or lore book.

There is an addon for that and you dont even need to discover locations first. In fact addons significantly enhance gameplay so much i would never dream of playing this game on console. Skyshard, lore book, quest locations...harvestmap, awesomeguildstore, mastermerchant, craftstore, TTC... i could go on. I cant imagine playing the game without all those addons that make the game much more bearable.

XBOX

PS4

Slick_007

Avalon wrote: »

I definitely agree with the skyshard part, because, Cyrodiil. Screw that place. I already hate PvP to begin with... but, often, my side doesn’t control hardly anything, so, hunting shards becomes near impossible.

you obviously dont go there often. its so far from impossible except for 4 shards behind the gates. out of 45. the other 41 are so easily accessible to solo players to make the claim you did just shows how much you dont know about cyrodiil

VilniusNastavnik

AlnilamE wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

As someone with 8 characters, all levelled up the long way, and near max CP, and all with Lorebooks and or skyshards depending on stam or mag, I support this move.

- Skyshards
- Lorebooks
- Mount Training
- Achievements

Should all be Account wide not character wise.

The people who say, it will remove from the game experience, or you will stop playing the game.

It takes... 24 hours at most on a DPS load out and the "Skyshards" and "Lorebooks" add on to get them all. Throw in "Destination" and you will have every wayshrine at the same time.

Making achievements account wide would not impact anything at all. You would still need to to the quests to get their respective skill points.. Just be able have one big achievement list visible from all toons. I cannot think of any other game where achievement are not account wide.

Mount training will never be made account wide. Zos gets too much money from selling riding lessons to PvP Players looking to get their horse leveled at day 1. There is no where in PvE that you need mounts to be trained at all. Would be nice though.

How is that bolded part an argument FOR making that account wide while taking away the pleasure people of people who don't play their characters as a DPS machine of finding the skyshards and lore books again?

Dead skyshards are sad skyshards.

One of the best things about bringing a new character into a zone is that the skyshards are there to be collected.

It took me less than 24 hours to get the ones I needed on my tank.. including HA to death all public dungeon bosses.

Anotherone773 wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

As someone with 8 characters, all levelled up the long way, and near max CP, and all with Lorebooks and or skyshards depending on stam or mag, I support this move.

- Skyshards
- Lorebooks
- Mount Training
- Achievements

Should all be Account wide not character wise.

The people who say, it will remove from the game experience, or you will stop playing the game.

It takes... 24 hours at most on a DPS load out and the "Skyshards" and "Lorebooks" add on to get them all. Throw in "Destination" and you will have every wayshrine at the same time.

Making achievements account wide would not impact anything at all. You would still need to to the quests to get their respective skill points.. Just be able have one big achievement list visible from all toons. I cannot think of any other game where achievement are not account wide.

Mount training will never be made account wide. Zos gets too much money from selling riding lessons to PvP Players looking to get their horse leveled at day 1. There is no where in PvE that you need mounts to be trained at all. Would be nice though.

I dont know what they put in your Red Bull, but it wasnt caffeine. There are 405 shards in this game. We will ignore the fact that all of them are not accessible without certain conditions being met first and just assume they are. Just to collect shards alone in a 24 hour period means you have to collect a shard every 4 minutes.

And cyrodiil takes a lot longer, especially if your side doesnt own most of the map. I spent 2 hours collecting 10 shards in enemy territory one night running straight from shard to shard. Have you ever run around morrowind? No shortcuts, have to run the entire outskirts of the island. Some zones are hilly and mountainous requiring you to go around things sometimes WAY around them to get to a shard that is only a minute away if you could just run straight to it. And you have to search for shards, In some delves they are on a different level. You have to know what level they are on and how to get to it which includes running through half the delve or more to get to it.

Add the fact that if you dont have shards yet you probably dont have very many shrines unlocked and then add lorebooks on top of this. There are nearly 100 lorebooks in auridon alone. Even if you were efficient it would take you a couple of hours to collect them all in just auridon. Plus hundreds of wayshrines.

Even if your were built for speed and not dps you couldnt hit all locations in a 24 hour period. And your going to have to fight things a long the way. Many shards are guarded even if you manage to avoid most of the mobs to get to them. Public dungeons shards are fun you either have to be able to tank and kill groups of mobs, or sneak by them. And a few are very close to bosses.

You could probably unlock all shrines in 24 hours with some time leftover, but your not doing 405 shards in that time and definitely not with lorebooks in that too.

Let me rephrase. All skyshards you need. You dont need all shards on all toons. Most toons can be done with round.. 10-12 zones cleared.. if that. Cyro is never needed. After the second toon you work out a path of least resistance and get the books as you move from shard to shard. Minimap also helps to streamline through delves to the shards. 24 hours is total time not 8 hours in a 24 hour day. Each zone.. 2 hours. Ill give ya a hint. Guildies also help with wayshrines. Likewise for books. 10-12 zoned until lvl 9..10.

Aesthier

YES YES YES!!!!

terrordactyl1971

And horse training

drkfrontiers

Sorry no - play the game.

Want Alts then run the content. No reason to have a MAXed level character just because you have played through the content before.

Pretty obvious reason?

What will stop someone from creating hundreds of maxed out crafter toons to get daily materials etc.