lordrichter wrote: »My first char took me about 3 years to get all the skyshards (429?). If I had to do it on all my other 11 toons I would log off and play something else.
This is one of the main reasons I groan at the thought of a new toon, lore books and skyshards.............
I dont even replay the content any more I just PvP my way to level 50 which makes things even worse as this leaves me short on skillpoints and lore books.
So YES DO IT ASAP
Then don't go collect all the lorebooks and skyshards. If it's not fun, don't do it.
So what you are saying is do not create another char? Because without skills it will be useless and to get skills I need skill points and for skill points I need skyshards.....
You need to double back to earlier posts, showing how you can get more than a sufficient number of skill points without ever touching a single skyshard or doing a single quest.lordrichter wrote: »My first char took me about 3 years to get all the skyshards (429?). If I had to do it on all my other 11 toons I would log off and play something else.
This is one of the main reasons I groan at the thought of a new toon, lore books and skyshards.............
I dont even replay the content any more I just PvP my way to level 50 which makes things even worse as this leaves me short on skillpoints and lore books.
So YES DO IT ASAP
Then don't go collect all the lorebooks and skyshards. If it's not fun, don't do it.
So what you are saying is do not create another char? Because without skills it will be useless and to get skills I need skill points and for skill points I need skyshards.....
and unless Public Dungeons move around and levels don't provide skillpoints, then the above is just as valid on console as it is on PC.CatchMeTrolling wrote: »So funny seeing people who use add ons talking about working for something. The day zos removes add ons from pc is the day many people will never touch an alt.
Merlin13KAGL wrote: »You need to double back to earlier posts, showing how you can get more than a sufficient number of skill points without ever touching a single skyshard or doing a single quest.lordrichter wrote: »My first char took me about 3 years to get all the skyshards (429?). If I had to do it on all my other 11 toons I would log off and play something else.
This is one of the main reasons I groan at the thought of a new toon, lore books and skyshards.............
I dont even replay the content any more I just PvP my way to level 50 which makes things even worse as this leaves me short on skillpoints and lore books.
So YES DO IT ASAP
Then don't go collect all the lorebooks and skyshards. If it's not fun, don't do it.
So what you are saying is do not create another char? Because without skills it will be useless and to get skills I need skill points and for skill points I need skyshards.....
Skyshards, especially if when you don't know the locations, are the least effective way of getting skillpoints.and unless Public Dungeons move around and levels don't provide skillpoints, then the above is just as valid on console as it is on PC.CatchMeTrolling wrote: »So funny seeing people who use add ons talking about working for something. The day zos removes add ons from pc is the day many people will never touch an alt.
After you've done it enough times, the locations pretty much become ingrained and if you haven't done it enough time for it to be, then I doubt you're in need of everything upfront anyway.
I think as a character discovers skyshards they should be shown on the map account wide. Same with lorebooks and Wayshrines. Console here so no add ons.
Hunting skyshards on alts just is not fun, at least for me.
As much as I love to re collect 1000 collectables it would be nice to only have to do this once per account. Nothing burns out new users more than a necessary grind to make other characters viable. Especially on console, we don't get addons. So even if the option was given to us that would be great, like a toggle on/off option. Suggestion from another member included a soft cap on skill points earned from skyshards for every 5 or ten levels until level 50 where the full amount is earned. And even a soft cap on the mages guildline for lorebooks. And with the most recent DLC this still is relevant. Perhaps give consoles the ability to use the skyshard addon? Give us something we spend thousands of hours and dollars on this game. Even some feedback would be alright.
As much as I love to re collect 1000 collectables it would be nice to only have to do this once per account. Nothing burns out new users more than a necessary grind to make other characters viable. Especially on console, we don't get addons. So even if the option was given to us that would be great, like a toggle on/off option. Suggestion from another member included a soft cap on skill points earned from skyshards for every 5 or ten levels until level 50 where the full amount is earned. And even a soft cap on the mages guildline for lorebooks. And with the most recent DLC this still is relevant. Perhaps give consoles the ability to use the skyshard addon? Give us something we spend thousands of hours and dollars on this game. Even some feedback would be alright.
I honestly don't see the issue, if you play the game instead of running a dungeon until 50 you will collect all shards by then. Hell it only took me a day to get EVERY ONE of them.. yes it's a pain but not end of the world. Lore books are the same since it's tied in to mages guild skill line.
CatchMeTrolling wrote: »So funny seeing people who use add ons talking about working for something. The day zos removes add ons from pc is the day many people will never touch an alt.
Kidgangster101 wrote: »Stop being the server police and telling people how to play their game just because you like it. Again I only enjoy group content and I enjoy doing a quest line once because it isn't different any other time. If the devs made wording different.or interactions different for each race then your point is just, but until then it is the same exact thing lol. You might enjoy everything but not everyone does.
lordrichter wrote: »My first char took me about 3 years to get all the skyshards (429?). If I had to do it on all my other 11 toons I would log off and play something else.
This is one of the main reasons I groan at the thought of a new toon, lore books and skyshards.............
I dont even replay the content any more I just PvP my way to level 50 which makes things even worse as this leaves me short on skillpoints and lore books.
So YES DO IT ASAP
Then don't go collect all the lorebooks and skyshards. If it's not fun, don't do it.
So what you are saying is do not create another char? Because without skills it will be useless and to get skills I need skill points and for skill points I need skyshards.....
Some of you may call 'skyshard hunting ' character progression but I call it bloody boring. The point of a game is fun and for me this is not it.
I hate quests so I do not get to see hardly any lore books or skyshards. I play for Cyrodiil and battlegrounds and like I said before it leaves me short on skill points/skill lines.
I understand lots of you like it, but for me it sucks, I hate it.
Edit: Forgot to say I love crafting too and wish the crafted sets were more valuable to players, but that's another thread for another day.
wtlonewolf20 wrote: »Some of you may call 'skyshard hunting ' character progression but I call it bloody boring. The point of a game is fun and for me this is not it.
I hate quests so I do not get to see hardly any lore books or skyshards. I play for Cyrodiil and battlegrounds and like I said before it leaves me short on skill points/skill lines.
I understand lots of you like it, but for me it sucks, I hate it.
Edit: Forgot to say I love crafting too and wish the crafted sets were more valuable to players, but that's another thread for another day.
There is no requirement in this game that forces you to go get skyshards. Also ZOS designed skyshards so that people dont have to quest to get them. They are the easiest and fastest source for skill points and take about as much time to collect as it takes people to do the dolmen runs to 50. Just takes a 4 to 5 hours to get them all. So I fail to see why this is an issue for people. And before you tell Me that I am elitist etc. I have done the skyshard farm over 40 times on my primary account. It's part of rolling an alt.
It would be nice to have better native map options but that is as far they should go. There needs to be a time cost associated with rolling alts and unlocking skills, skill points are part of that cost.
I mean ZOS needs to keep people playing the game and they need to have reasons for people to travel to all of the zones in the game. And obtaining skyshards is one way to do that.
There are other ways for them to force people out into those unused zones. I mean we haven't seen a gear level Increase in several years. So be grateful that there is that. Also be grateful for the battle spirit and scaling that is present in this game. It makes rolling alts super easy as it is. So be grateful for what we have. And if you are bored with rolling alts then I wonder why are you doing it? What compels you to find the need?
I'm fine with this as long as you can't enter < 50 pvp. That would be like having CP enabled in < 50. It's just a selfish idea.
You want to enable your other characters progression on a new alt? Fine, but you can't use that progression to farm new players in PvP that don't have high level alts.
Narvuntien wrote: »No.
What is even the point of playing the game if you aren't even going to play the game?
Just get everything for free?
Spending days running around clicking on books and rocks isn't "playing" for me and many others. After doing it once, I have no desire to do it again. The boring grind is one reason I won't be playing much longer.
Nope, you can't have my stuff=)
Some of you may call 'skyshard hunting ' character progression but I call it bloody boring. The point of a game is fun and for me this is not it.
I hate quests so I do not get to see hardly any lore books or skyshards. I play for Cyrodiil and battlegrounds and like I said before it leaves me short on skill points/skill lines.
I understand lots of you like it, but for me it sucks, I hate it.
Edit: Forgot to say I love crafting too and wish the crafted sets were more valuable to players, but that's another thread for another day.
I'm not sure why anyone would actually care if this was a toggle that enabled you to unlock what you have already unlocked when you hit CP.
As long as you are not forcing people that want to collect the individual items into accepting they can't do that anymore, who cares?
How are you affected in any way if someone collects all the things on their main account and that unlocks when they get their alts to 50?
FYI, it doesn't in any way shape or form. So to deny people something that doesn't affect you and is not going to be able to be used in an unfair match up, you have another agenda than what is being presented.
I mean heres an idea, give a map of skyshards and a tome of enlightenment at the global acheivement vendor, make it 1,000,000 gold each or something.
Don't want to spend the gold? Fine collect your things. Most people who are rerolling alts I think would be happy to drop a mil on unlocking tedious things.
Everyone wins,, ZOS gets another gold sink, players that want to skip the tedious grind they don't like, and those who love to explore with multiple characters are all fit as a fiddle.
CatchMeTrolling wrote: »So funny seeing people who use add ons talking about working for something. The day zos removes add ons from pc is the day many people will never touch an alt.
I have 29 characters on PC, been playing since launch and have never installed a single addon. Don't make assumptions!
CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »So funny seeing people who use add ons talking about working for something. The day zos removes add ons from pc is the day many people will never touch an alt.
I have 29 characters on PC, been playing since launch and have never installed a single addon. Don't make assumptions!
Don’t throw yourself into general statements that don’t include the word “all”.