Forumers Crying for nerfs in a Nutshell

TimeDazzler

ZoS knows how to balance their game, stop whining and be patient. We don't need a reminder every week of what class killed you in open world that you have to make nerf threads about shortly after.

GrumpyDuckling

What if some people on PC got upset when their add-on to help counter Nightblades received changes? Now, without their add-on crutch perhaps they don't know how to use in-game skills to counter Nightblades and are lashing out on the forum?

Glockcoma725

Nerf the forums I say

Minno

Cries wrote: »

ZoS knows how to balance their game, stop whining and be patient. We don't need a reminder every week of what class killed you in open world that you have to make nerf threads about shortly after.

Shareholder: "we need to make warden now attractive to justify making players pay 50 dollars to pay for something they get free access with ESO Plus"

ZoS 1: "we can remove major mending from Templar, and give them all the buffs Templars have been asking for to make their class compete against sorcs/nightblades in both pve/pvp. That should work!"

Zos2:. "I disagree, Templars need that major mending because we nerfed their sweeps heal and bol cost was increased. Plus crit DMG passives are bugged and impacting heals, when they shouldn't be."

Shareholder: "onto other news, company profits are down and I'll need you to fire one or two employees to compensate". ::stares intensely at Zos 2::

TimeDazzler

Minno wrote: »

Cries wrote: »

ZoS knows how to balance their game, stop whining and be patient. We don't need a reminder every week of what class killed you in open world that you have to make nerf threads about shortly after.

Shareholder: "we need to make warden now attractive to justify making players pay 50 dollars to pay for something they get free access with ESO Plus"

ZoS 1: "we can remove major mending from Templar, and give them all the buffs Templars have been asking for to make their class compete against sorcs/nightblades in both pve/pvp. That should work!"

Zos2:. "I disagree, Templars need that major mending because we nerfed their sweeps heal and bol cost was increased. Plus crit DMG passives are bugged and impacting heals, when they shouldn't be."

Shareholder: "onto other news, company profits are down and I'll need you to fire one or two employees to compensate". ::stares intensely at Zos 2::

ZoS: Powerlash 3sec cooldown, searing strike and morphs dodgeable...
Forums: OMFG my magDK is gonna be unplayable thanks ZoS!
Reality: MagDK buffed and stronger than ever

Minno

Cries wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Cries wrote: »

ZoS knows how to balance their game, stop whining and be patient. We don't need a reminder every week of what class killed you in open world that you have to make nerf threads about shortly after.

Shareholder: "we need to make warden now attractive to justify making players pay 50 dollars to pay for something they get free access with ESO Plus"

ZoS 1: "we can remove major mending from Templar, and give them all the buffs Templars have been asking for to make their class compete against sorcs/nightblades in both pve/pvp. That should work!"

Zos2:. "I disagree, Templars need that major mending because we nerfed their sweeps heal and bol cost was increased. Plus crit DMG passives are bugged and impacting heals, when they shouldn't be."

Shareholder: "onto other news, company profits are down and I'll need you to fire one or two employees to compensate". ::stares intensely at Zos 2::

ZoS: Powerlash 3sec cooldown, searing strike and morphs dodgeable...
Forums: OMFG my magDK is gonna be unplayable thanks ZoS!
Reality: MagDK buffed and stronger than ever

Lol that's good. Here's another one:

Forums: "mag DK is soooo broken it's terrible"

::6 DK build/1vX threads posted on PvP combat forum in one day::

Rohamad_Ali

An then instead Wrobel nerfs a bunch of systems and the opposite class complained about . Then creates a new interrupt system . This is why if you discover a strong build its best to keep it to yourself . It's not that it will get nerfed , the whole game will get nerfed .

Dedricus

Cries wrote: »

ZoS knows how to balance their game

Not with the current disparity between the top and bottom classes, they don't.

TimeDazzler

Dedricus wrote: »

The game is painfully imbalanced and needs sweeping changes for things to improve.

I agree, but buffing/nerfing X class every week/month like most people on the forums suggest won't do a thing. A start would be reworking DK's in general and overhauling the CP system. Not that DK's both stam and mag are unplayable but feel outdated.

Dedricus

Cries wrote: »

I agree, but buffing/nerfing X class every week/month like most people on the forums suggest won't do a thing. A start would be reworking DK's in general and overhauling the CP system.

Opening with that would have made you seem a lot more reasonable. People are angry and trying to poke fun at/ridicule them isn't a good way to go about it.

Dredlord

Meme started strong and ended fail...

The world may never know? Cmon the world will know all too soon.

Yamakaziing

Lol always gonna be people defending bogus bologna

Turelus

Glockcoma725 wrote: »

Nerf the forums I say

Feanor

You’re wrong. #nerfSorc is a continuum on this forum.

Brrrofski

I honestly feel classes are in the most part pretty close to balance. I say pretty close because true balance isn't possible. So yeh, pretty close to balanced.

Apart from Stam warden. I can't even play mine anymore, it's boring. Just stay alive and kite (which is way too easy) until ult is up (which won't be long because ult gain is phenomenal). Shalks, dizzying, dawnbreaker, reverse slie, dead. Pretty much everyone.

They really need toning down a bit. The 3 key things you need in pvp are survivability, sustain and damage. Warden has all 3 in abundance.

Like I said, I don't play mine anymore. Plus Xbox eu is just full of Stan warden groups stacking dawnbreaker and steal tornado. It is the most boring meta in pvp I've seen in a long time.

This won't be a popular post because a lot of people just jumped on the Stam warden bandwagon, but change them a bit and pvp would be fairly balanced.

Brrrofski

Also, the big problem with this game is people who play one, maybe two classes and only scream buffs to them and nerfs to others.

ZOS has this new class outreach thing yet ask for experienced players of a class. They should be experienced with every class and then maybe super experienced with the one.

Kolache

Is timing really a surprise here?
People have always hated magsorcs (and still do).
Stamdens couldn't be hated until they were released.
NBs couldn't be (more) hated until addon bandaids were removed.

What's next? I guess it depends on what changes in the game... shocker

Animus-ESO

Brrrofski wrote: »

I honestly feel classes are in the most part pretty close to balance. I say pretty close because true balance isn't possible. So yeh, pretty close to balanced.

Apart from Stam warden. I can't even play mine anymore, it's boring. Just stay alive and kite (which is way too easy) until ult is up (which won't be long because ult gain is phenomenal). Shalks, dizzying, dawnbreaker, reverse slie, dead. Pretty much everyone.

They really need toning down a bit. The 3 key things you need in pvp are survivability, sustain and damage. Warden has all 3 in abundance.

Like I said, I don't play mine anymore. Plus Xbox eu is just full of Stan warden groups stacking dawnbreaker and steal tornado. It is the most boring meta in pvp I've seen in a long time.

This won't be a popular post because a lot of people just jumped on the Stam warden bandwagon, but change them a bit and pvp would be fairly balanced.

Balancing wardens will be easy though, put a cool down on major heroism on that sheild. Nerf shalk so it doesn't hit as hard as dawnbreaker.

wheem_ESO

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

Balancing wardens will be easy though, put a cool down on major heroism on that sheild. Nerf shalk so it doesn't hit as hard as dawnbreaker.

They need to find a way to nerf Stamina Warden without completely ruining Magicka Warden.

Edit: I'm not claiming that a nerf to Shimmering Shield would ruin Magicka Wardens. It should be fairly obvious that the ability has needed a sizable nerf for quite some time, and not just the Major Heroism portion; it's way too much of a counter to most Magicka setups, while doing nothing to most Stamina builds. Oh boy what I'd give for the other morph to make that trade off; absorb 3 melee attacks and not do anything to projectiles.

rfennell_ESO

Cries wrote: »

ZoS knows how to balance their game, stop whining and be patient. We don't need a reminder every week of what class killed you in open world that you have to make nerf threads about shortly after.

If ZOS doesn't balance something, people think they can force ZOS to. It's worked in the past...

It doesn't mean that people that take to the forums regarding balance are wrong, sometimes (probably more than just sometimes) they are right.

The issue that arises is that impassioned people taking to their soapboxes regarding an issue engage in gross hyperbole in order to be "heard". Reasonable arguments don't generate views of threads like exaggerated baiting ones do.

Take your final example of nerf stamblades now. Are Stamblades ridiculously overpowered and easy mode to play? No, of course they aren't. Is there a balance issue regarding stamblades and how it's nearly ridiculous to have to build in such a way to deal with them as their population increases and increases in pvp? Sure there is. There is and has been an inherent issue with shadowy disguise and how it operates in certain pvp encounters. It doesn't amount to much in the overall zerg vs zerg and keep takes though or the in general state of cyrondil.

For overall pvp heavy armor and stuff like fortified brass and bleed builds are probably a larger balance problem.

Minalan

Isn’t like to point out to any Magicka sorcerers posting in the ‘nerf nightblade’ threads:

If they nerf nightblades, who do you think is going to be next? I’ll give you four guesses, but you'll only need one.

at least now we can point at nightblades and honestly say: “without shield stacking we’re dead in two seconds”.

DHale

Really good post. If people would spend more time learning and playing rather than qq ing about abilities that not have changed much in over three years people might actually get better. Or conversely they could use inner light detect pots revealing flare... you know alll the counter play like you know.... any AOE whatsoever.

Smithernest54

Get rid of Block casting and animation canceling. ZOS has been nerfing and changing everything to accommodate for these broken programming mishaps. It’s time for it to go or pvp is going to be an echo chamber.

Xvorg

Smithernest54 wrote: »

Get rid of Block casting and animation canceling. ZOS has been nerfing and changing everything to accommodate for these broken programming mishaps. It’s time for it to go or pvp is going to be an echo chamber.

why, why... why after 4 years they should change what makes this game different from the others? Isn't it easier to learn how to CC a permablocker or use a stam poison?

ZOS_JesC

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