People don't understand obtaining a skin is not just a completion of a run. It's socializing with others, you play an mmo... it's also teamwork in a competitive scene. All I read in the first post is 'I suck and nobody accepts me', time to grind further and improve, at least it's a cool goal to look forward to ^^
ralphylauren wrote: »so I'm in craglorn on Friday and a cp 98 was running around with a Maw skin, idk what he did to get the skin but a couple of PS4 na elitist were there belittling him...
The PS4-NA end-game scene is very much so bad. How do I know? I used to be heavily involved with it. It too is filled with politics and other unnecessary bs, just like PvP in Cyrodiil. The only difference is, in Cyrodiil you’re not cut off from gear for being small-scale and or solo. And thus you don’t have gear locked away from you in that regards. But rather, you have emperorship out of reach. Both of these things of course being mitigated by how much gold you’ll front (which is disgusting).
I’ll put it to you all like this regarding PS4-NA’s raiding community. Every single top end-game PvE guild (literally ALL of the top guilds) are: Drama-filled, ego-fueled, e-fame obsessed, cringeworthy, man-childs and wretches. Every single 1 these days. You can be the most talented, well-mannered, and quiet person. And still get shut down or asked to “tryout” for these clowns, and most of the time the people asking you to perform said feats can’t even accomplish them themselves. But are merely parroting what they saw someone else say.
Proof? I was apart of multiple end-game PvE guilds at a time, which constantly placed within Top 24 on trial leaderboards every single week. Without fail. And 1 of the things that I’d begin to notice within these guilds was how the GM would intentionally segregate their own guild (often leading to tensions). There would be the regular members, and then there would be an “A-Team” (eventually colors started being used to mask what he were doing). The “A-Team” would consist of people who the GM personally felt was their top players. These are the folks who they’d bring along for hard mode clears, and would bring along for “carry runs” (you get paid an obnoxiously high amount of gold to carry someone through a trial). Naturally people would catch on, and leave said guilds after discovering something was odd about them being invited to stuff. But, that is how it would go. And you’d ping-pong over and over like this.
Now here’s the kicker. 2 of the guilds I was in at the time had this 1 female player, who was extremely subpar. Her DPS was atrocious, and often times a few of us would talk in secret how she was apart of the guild to begin with. In trials she’d always be 1 of the 1st few people to need a rez, she had little to no rotation, and she barely followed mechanics. Yet the GM’s still has her as a DPS for the guild, even though the required DPS at the time was ~40k (and she would barely push past 25k is my guess). But anyway, I see her a few months later after I had left the entire end-game PvE scene with the VHoF skin, showing off hard mode clear treasures, behaving arrogantly and calling herself giving advice on how to get Flawless Conqueror...
Keep in mind, I had NEVER seen this chick in VMA. Ever. Let alone discussing it. And I had been in 2 guilds with her for months. Months! I attended all of her DPS tests back then, as well as had done numerous trials with this broad. Now all of sudden a few months later, she’s some “super pro” giving out advice (which was entirely inaccurate and wrong by the way), and behaving all superior to the players asking in zone chat about help with VMA? So I ask her in zone chat when it was that she became said VMA Pro (which she clearly wasn’t from the things she was saying), being as I had never seen her do VMA. Nor have I ever seen her do anything remarkable without being carried. And she proceedsto ask me where my HM treasures are for things like VHoF and VAS. Lol. She proceeds to ask where this and that skin is, knowing I had left that entire scene behind. And how great she is.
The point I’m trying to make is, the scene on PS4-NA regarding both end-game PvE and PvP is an absolute joke. It’s nothing but politics, and people’s wealth and contacts that enable them to do these types of grand things. Are there some players who truly are that good, and honestly earned all of their skins and accolades? Absolutely. Without a doubt they exist. But! Those players are very much so far and few. Often times the GM’s of these guilds requesting these outlandish requirements for PvE trials can’t even meet their own standards on their best day (seen this as well), and in PvP are straight bums. They have this and that rank, but are garbage players with little to no understand of the basics of combat. They are known for working with other alliances for obtaining emperorship, and have a reputation for attacking empty keeps. They are known for being apart of huge groups, as alone or small-scale they have been seen to get thrashed on numerous occasions. Leading to why they nowadays strictly roll in huge groups.
It’s all smoke and mirrors on PS4-NA, OP. Trust me. I have been there and done that for a lot of things, although I am very ashamed of myself for indulging in the bs back then. It’s all fake. 100%.
rafaelcsmaia wrote: »@ralphylauren I feel you, I'm at ps4 NA as well and the amount of try hards is over the roof. If you participate on the facebook page you can get an idea: People charging for skins all the time, people that brag about pretty much everything and find funny to dimish others and nonsensical discussions and toxicity.
I play this game to enjoy myself, I like to finish hard content of course, but some of it is already stressful enough to have people raging and crying like babies, I can't stand that, I work full time and dont feel like being bossed around by some teenager tryhard when I get home.
The problem with ESO is the problem with the society itself, they're not willing to grow as a group. Lets say you have a VMOL group going and one or two guys are messing up the mechanics for the twins. Isnt it easier to just kick them or dont call em the next day? Of course it is.
Contrary to what the cool kids want you to believe, the end game content in this game is NOT HARD, it just takes group synergy, which will never be achieved in a toxic environment.
rafaelcsmaia wrote: »@ralphylauren I feel you, I'm at ps4 NA as well and the amount of try hards is over the roof. If you participate on the facebook page you can get an idea: People charging for skins all the time, people that brag about pretty much everything and find funny to dimish others and nonsensical discussions and toxicity.
I play this game to enjoy myself, I like to finish hard content of course, but some of it is already stressful enough to have people raging and crying like babies, I can't stand that, I work full time and dont feel like being bossed around by some teenager tryhard when I get home.
The problem with ESO is the problem with the society itself, they're not willing to grow as a group. Lets say you have a VMOL group going and one or two guys are messing up the mechanics for the twins. Isnt it easier to just kick them or dont call em the next day? Of course it is.
Contrary to what the cool kids want you to believe, the end game content in this game is NOT HARD, it just takes group synergy, which will never be achieved in a toxic environment.
"I deserve the [insert name here], just because i want it"
If you want a skin then join a guild (i dont belive there are only 2 guilds on your server) or start you own. Simple as that. But i know- both of those things would require actual effort to do
"I deserve the [insert name here], just because i want it"
If you want a skin then join a guild (i dont belive there are only 2 guilds on your server) or start you own. Simple as that. But i know- both of those things would require actual effort to do
No. It’s not “simple as that”. I have observed the process, as well as been involved in it personally. It is never that simple. Why? Because of ego.
Let me break it down for you...
First of all, most of the top end-game guilds that regularly do things like: VHoF, VMoL, VASHM, etc. want absolutely nothing to do with you if you have no rep. It sounds cringeworthy as hell, yes. I know. But, it’s the truth. Unless you’re cool with a hand few of folks, and or have a name that resonates a bit of a buzz? Forget about it. You can have all types of wonderfully high DPS, and learn/follow mechanics flawlessly. And it won’t mean squat to these guilds. Why? Because they don’t know your. And if the don’t know you, why should they take a chance with you? That’s their mentality.
Second of all, most of the top end-game guilds are full of frauds themselves (save for their “A Team”). I’ve been invited to numerous carry runs back when I was involved in all that crap to help people get skins for gold, and on multiple occasions the person running the carry run would have to pull people from other guilds. Why? Because his “A-Team” couldn’t cut it, EVEN THOUGH the people invited had the skin of the trial in question. I cant tell you how many VMoL skin runs I was apart of where “skinned” people were invited to the carry run, and still had no idea when to rotate on The Twins. Let alone couldn’t run the back area on Rakkat. I’m talking off-tanks that wouldn’t interrupt-bash, chainers not chaining properly, etc. Yet these same clowns could be spotted in zone chat in Craglorn or Grahtwood huddled around, and trying to front like they are good. Lmao.
Which leads to the third poin. A lot of the people who get skins and all that in these guilds? Are tanks and healers. Why? Because they couldn’t cut it as DPS. They would fail time after time on their DPS tests, and often times couldn’t even grasp a basic rotation. Let alone meet the given standard for what was required. I for 1 always hated DPS tests, because I found them ignorant. Plus, they don’t truly show the ability of the player at hand. And! A lot of the people who’d do said DPS tests wouldn’t even be wearing the same gear, and or use the same skills that they were doing in the test in an actual trial. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen Mr. Über Pro with such and such time get praised for how well they did on the DPS test, but meanwhile in a trial they’re constantly needing to get rezzed. They’re constantly ignoring mechanics and wiping the group.
So no. It’s not that simple. Far from it. I have been apart of multiple top end-game guilds on PS4-NA, participated in numerous carry runs (shamefully enough), and have been apart of numerous “A Teams”.
The PS4-NA end-game scene is very much so bad. How do I know? I used to be heavily involved with it. It too is filled with politics and other unnecessary bs, just like PvP in Cyrodiil. The only difference is, in Cyrodiil you’re not cut off from gear for being small-scale and or solo. And thus you don’t have gear locked away from you in that regards. But rather, you have emperorship out of reach. Both of these things of course being mitigated by how much gold you’ll front (which is disgusting).
I’ll put it to you all like this regarding PS4-NA’s raiding community. Every single top end-game PvE guild (literally ALL of the top guilds) are: Drama-filled, ego-fueled, e-fame obsessed, cringeworthy, man-childs and wretches. Every single 1 these days. You can be the most talented, well-mannered, and quiet person. And still get shut down or asked to “tryout” for these clowns, and most of the time the people asking you to perform said feats can’t even accomplish them themselves. But are merely parroting what they saw someone else say.
Proof? I was apart of multiple end-game PvE guilds at a time, which constantly placed within Top 24 on trial leaderboards every single week. Without fail. And 1 of the things that I’d begin to notice within these guilds was how the GM would intentionally segregate their own guild (often leading to tensions). There would be the regular members, and then there would be an “A-Team” (eventually colors started being used to mask what he were doing). The “A-Team” would consist of people who the GM personally felt was their top players. These are the folks who they’d bring along for hard mode clears, and would bring along for “carry runs” (you get paid an obnoxiously high amount of gold to carry someone through a trial). Naturally people would catch on, and leave said guilds after discovering something was odd about them being invited to stuff. But, that is how it would go. And you’d ping-pong over and over like this.
Now here’s the kicker. 2 of the guilds I was in at the time had this 1 female player, who was extremely subpar. Her DPS was atrocious, and often times a few of us would talk in secret how she was apart of the guild to begin with. In trials she’d always be 1 of the 1st few people to need a rez, she had little to no rotation, and she barely followed mechanics. Yet the GM’s still has her as a DPS for the guild, even though the required DPS at the time was ~40k (and she would barely push past 25k is my guess). But anyway, I see her a few months later after I had left the entire end-game PvE scene with the VHoF skin, showing off hard mode clear treasures, behaving arrogantly and calling herself giving advice on how to get Flawless Conqueror...
Keep in mind, I had NEVER seen this chick in VMA. Ever. Let alone discussing it. And I had been in 2 guilds with her for months. Months! I attended all of her DPS tests back then, as well as had done numerous trials with this broad. Now all of sudden a few months later, she’s some “super pro” giving out advice (which was entirely inaccurate and wrong by the way), and behaving all superior to the players asking in zone chat about help with VMA? So I ask her in zone chat when it was that she became said VMA Pro (which she clearly wasn’t from the things she was saying), being as I had never seen her do VMA. Nor have I ever seen her do anything remarkable without being carried. And she proceedsto ask me where my HM treasures are for things like VHoF and VAS. Lol. She proceeds to ask where this and that skin is, knowing I had left that entire scene behind. And how great she is.
The point I’m trying to make is, the scene on PS4-NA regarding both end-game PvE and PvP is an absolute joke. It’s nothing but politics, and people’s wealth and contacts that enable them to do these types of grand things. Are there some players who truly are that good, and honestly earned all of their skins and accolades? Absolutely. Without a doubt they exist. But! Those players are very much so far and few. Often times the GM’s of these guilds requesting these outlandish requirements for PvE trials can’t even meet their own standards on their best day (seen this as well), and in PvP are straight bums. They have this and that rank, but are garbage players with little to no understand of the basics of combat. They are known for working with other alliances for obtaining emperorship, and have a reputation for attacking empty keeps. They are known for being apart of huge groups, as alone or small-scale they have been seen to get thrashed on numerous occasions. Leading to why they nowadays strictly roll in huge groups.
It’s all smoke and mirrors on PS4-NA, OP. Trust me. I have been there and done that for a lot of things, although I am very ashamed of myself for indulging in the bs back then. It’s all fake. 100%.
ralphylauren wrote: »I have been playing this game from when it released on console. And I must say this has become my favorite game of all time... I know I will probably get flamed for this post but I feel like I need to say something for me and other players who feel like I do but I really dislike the PS4 NA endgame raiding scene. And before I start I'm not talking about your regular Craglorn PUG because in my experience, PUG'ing Vet or Normal Craglorn or even dlc normal raids is pretty enjoyable. You meet a lot of cool endgame players get some gear and lean the mechanics. But what really Makes me angry if I want to goto the next level and get my vmaw skin I have to pay 1.2 million?! Lmfao this *** is a joke, I was told by some players look up the leaderboards and message the players on there. So I did that (left a polite message saying that "I Main DPS I have a main Mag Soc and stam DK both able to hit 32k on a dummy with no cheese, and I have VMA gear etc) and I got only 2 responses back LOL . One player said we charge 1.2 million And another player said we need at least 38k dps... so I'm in craglorn on Friday and a cp 98 was running around with a Maw skin, idk what he did to get the skin but a couple of PS4 na elitist were there belittling him and excusing him of exploiting it. Like I said idk how he got the skin But the CP 98 guy made a great point, he told them "what you guys mad because I have the skin now and I can help others get it too? No one should have to pay 1.2 million for a skin" and I agree with that I just don't agree with exploiting the game. It's like a complete power trip with the top players on PS4 na. If I just want a skin not a score why can't I join if I can get 30k plus dps, know the game mechanics and will pull my own weight? it really feels like these players want you to digitally kiss there asses for [X] amount of months to even be thought of to get in one of these groups and that's just not me, I refuse to sit up and tell another player how OP he or she is to get my skin. I have seen this and it really disgusts me and really starting to make me hate this game.
ZOS I plead with you please make some type of content VMa so players can get their Vmaw skin VHOF skin etc. players should not have a monopoly on the end game raiding scene.
Sorry for any spelling errors run on sentences I am just venting
The PS4-NA end-game scene is very much so bad. How do I know? I used to be heavily involved with it. It too is filled with politics and other unnecessary bs, just like PvP in Cyrodiil. The only difference is, in Cyrodiil you’re not cut off from gear for being small-scale and or solo. And thus you don’t have gear locked away from you in that regards. But rather, you have emperorship out of reach. Both of these things of course being mitigated by how much gold you’ll front (which is disgusting).
I’ll put it to you all like this regarding PS4-NA’s raiding community. Every single top end-game PvE guild (literally ALL of the top guilds) are: Drama-filled, ego-fueled, e-fame obsessed, cringeworthy, man-childs and wretches. Every single 1 these days. You can be the most talented, well-mannered, and quiet person. And still get shut down or asked to “tryout” for these clowns, and most of the time the people asking you to perform said feats can’t even accomplish them themselves. But are merely parroting what they saw someone else say.
Proof? I was apart of multiple end-game PvE guilds at a time, which constantly placed within Top 24 on trial leaderboards every single week. Without fail. And 1 of the things that I’d begin to notice within these guilds was how the GM would intentionally segregate their own guild (often leading to tensions). There would be the regular members, and then there would be an “A-Team” (eventually colors started being used to mask what he were doing). The “A-Team” would consist of people who the GM personally felt was their top players. These are the folks who they’d bring along for hard mode clears, and would bring along for “carry runs” (you get paid an obnoxiously high amount of gold to carry someone through a trial). Naturally people would catch on, and leave said guilds after discovering something was odd about them being invited to stuff. But, that is how it would go. And you’d ping-pong over and over like this.
Now here’s the kicker. 2 of the guilds I was in at the time had this 1 female player, who was extremely subpar. Her DPS was atrocious, and often times a few of us would talk in secret how she was apart of the guild to begin with. In trials she’d always be 1 of the 1st few people to need a rez, she had little to no rotation, and she barely followed mechanics. Yet the GM’s still has her as a DPS for the guild, even though the required DPS at the time was ~40k (and she would barely push past 25k is my guess). But anyway, I see her a few months later after I had left the entire end-game PvE scene with the VHoF skin, showing off hard mode clear treasures, behaving arrogantly and calling herself giving advice on how to get Flawless Conqueror...
Keep in mind, I had NEVER seen this chick in VMA. Ever. Let alone discussing it. And I had been in 2 guilds with her for months. Months! I attended all of her DPS tests back then, as well as had done numerous trials with this broad. Now all of sudden a few months later, she’s some “super pro” giving out advice (which was entirely inaccurate and wrong by the way), and behaving all superior to the players asking in zone chat about help with VMA? So I ask her in zone chat when it was that she became said VMA Pro (which she clearly wasn’t from the things she was saying), being as I had never seen her do VMA. Nor have I ever seen her do anything remarkable without being carried. And she proceedsto ask me where my HM treasures are for things like VHoF and VAS. Lol. She proceeds to ask where this and that skin is, knowing I had left that entire scene behind. And how great she is.
The point I’m trying to make is, the scene on PS4-NA regarding both end-game PvE and PvP is an absolute joke. It’s nothing but politics, and people’s wealth and contacts that enable them to do these types of grand things. Are there some players who truly are that good, and honestly earned all of their skins and accolades? Absolutely. Without a doubt they exist. But! Those players are very much so far and few. Often times the GM’s of these guilds requesting these outlandish requirements for PvE trials can’t even meet their own standards on their best day (seen this as well), and in PvP are straight bums. They have this and that rank, but are garbage players with little to no understand of the basics of combat. They are known for working with other alliances for obtaining emperorship, and have a reputation for attacking empty keeps. They are known for being apart of huge groups, as alone or small-scale they have been seen to get thrashed on numerous occasions. Leading to why they nowadays strictly roll in huge groups.
It’s all smoke and mirrors on PS4-NA, OP. Trust me. I have been there and done that for a lot of things, although I am very ashamed of myself for indulging in the bs back then. It’s all fake. 100%.
ralphylauren wrote: »Hey guys I never asked to be carried I never said i wasn't willing to lean with a progression group, I'm just saying that I have never ran into a vmaw progression group that's actively helping players on PS4 na. Now that is MY singular experience while I have been playing this game, and it doesn't mean that anyone else experienced the same thing. Everyone I run into with a trial skin I ask them about their guild and tell them the dps numbers I'm pulling , gear I'm wearing etc and all I have been hearing is "MY GUILD DONT REALLY LIKE TO ADD NEW PLAYERS" OR "SORRY WE ARE NOT RECRUITING RIGHT NOW" im really tired of this.
"I deserve the [insert name here], just because i want it"
Which leads to the third poin. A lot of the people who get skins and all that in these guilds? Are tanks and healers. Why? Because they couldn’t cut it as DPS. They would fail time after time on their DPS tests, and often times couldn’t even grasp a basic rotation. Let alone meet the given standard for what was required. I for 1 always hated DPS tests, because I found them ignorant. Plus, they don’t truly show the ability of the player at hand. And! A lot of the people who’d do said DPS tests wouldn’t even be wearing the same gear, and or use the same skills that they were doing in the test in an actual trial. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen Mr. Über Pro with such and such time get praised for how well they did on the DPS test, but meanwhile in a trial they’re constantly needing to get rezzed. They’re constantly ignoring mechanics and wiping the group.
So no. It’s not that simple. Far from it. I have been apart of multiple top end-game guilds on PS4-NA, participated in numerous carry runs (shamefully enough), and have been apart of numerous “A Teams”.
Join a guild who have the same ideas and capabilities as you do yourself, and don't settle for just any guild. I've seen plenty of ps4 NA guilds advertise for members who are just like you...
Check out one of @xynode 's live streams.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-rM-3hfqAOSLSP3w_W57Iw
He streams almost every day at 4 p.m. central, and 10 p.m. UK time. Listen to what he says about end game content, ask him a few questions. If you like what he has to say, he has guilds across all platforms on all 6 servers.
His EU ps4 guild is currently running vet hard mode trials with players of any CP. And they are successful. Reached leaderboards and got thier reward last week. Anyone who says you need to pay, or even need to be a certain cp level to do hard content is full of ***. Sure, cp helps, but it's not the end all be all of being able to successfully do content. Some, unfortunately, don't like to hear that. But it's absolutely true. As long as you follow mechanics, cp doesn't matter too much.
If Xynode isn't for you, keep an eye out for a guild that has the same goals as you do yourself. Pugging is rough for trying to accomplish what you want. You need like minded people.
I agree and disagree with some parts but thank you for the constructive criticism.The PS4-NA end-game scene is very much so bad. How do I know? I used to be heavily involved with it. It too is filled with politics and other unnecessary bs, just like PvP in Cyrodiil. The only difference is, in Cyrodiil you’re not cut off from gear for being small-scale and or solo. And thus you don’t have gear locked away from you in that regards. But rather, you have emperorship out of reach. Both of these things of course being mitigated by how much gold you’ll front (which is disgusting).
I’ll put it to you all like this regarding PS4-NA’s raiding community. Every single top end-game PvE guild (literally ALL of the top guilds) are: Drama-filled, ego-fueled, e-fame obsessed, cringeworthy, man-childs and wretches. Every single 1 these days. You can be the most talented, well-mannered, and quiet person. And still get shut down or asked to “tryout” for these clowns, and most of the time the people asking you to perform said feats can’t even accomplish them themselves. But are merely parroting what they saw someone else say.
Proof? I was apart of multiple end-game PvE guilds at a time, which constantly placed within Top 24 on trial leaderboards every single week. Without fail. And 1 of the things that I’d begin to notice within these guilds was how the GM would intentionally segregate their own guild (often leading to tensions). There would be the regular members, and then there would be an “A-Team” (eventually colors started being used to mask what he were doing). The “A-Team” would consist of people who the GM personally felt was their top players. These are the folks who they’d bring along for hard mode clears, and would bring along for “carry runs” (you get paid an obnoxiously high amount of gold to carry someone through a trial). Naturally people would catch on, and leave said guilds after discovering something was odd about them being invited to stuff. But, that is how it would go. And you’d ping-pong over and over like this.
Now here’s the kicker. 2 of the guilds I was in at the time had this 1 female player, who was extremely subpar. Her DPS was atrocious, and often times a few of us would talk in secret how she was apart of the guild to begin with. In trials she’d always be 1 of the 1st few people to need a rez, she had little to no rotation, and she barely followed mechanics. Yet the GM’s still has her as a DPS for the guild, even though the required DPS at the time was ~40k (and she would barely push past 25k is my guess). But anyway, I see her a few months later after I had left the entire end-game PvE scene with the VHoF skin, showing off hard mode clear treasures, behaving arrogantly and calling herself giving advice on how to get Flawless Conqueror...
Keep in mind, I had NEVER seen this chick in VMA. Ever. Let alone discussing it. And I had been in 2 guilds with her for months. Months! I attended all of her DPS tests back then, as well as had done numerous trials with this broad. Now all of sudden a few months later, she’s some “super pro” giving out advice (which was entirely inaccurate and wrong by the way), and behaving all superior to the players asking in zone chat about help with VMA? So I ask her in zone chat when it was that she became said VMA Pro (which she clearly wasn’t from the things she was saying), being as I had never seen her do VMA. Nor have I ever seen her do anything remarkable without being carried. And she proceedsto ask me where my HM treasures are for things like VHoF and VAS. Lol. She proceeds to ask where this and that skin is, knowing I had left that entire scene behind. And how great she is.
The point I’m trying to make is, the scene on PS4-NA regarding both end-game PvE and PvP is an absolute joke. It’s nothing but politics, and people’s wealth and contacts that enable them to do these types of grand things. Are there some players who truly are that good, and honestly earned all of their skins and accolades? Absolutely. Without a doubt they exist. But! Those players are very much so far and few. Often times the GM’s of these guilds requesting these outlandish requirements for PvE trials can’t even meet their own standards on their best day (seen this as well), and in PvP are straight bums. They have this and that rank, but are garbage players with little to no understand of the basics of combat. They are known for working with other alliances for obtaining emperorship, and have a reputation for attacking empty keeps. They are known for being apart of huge groups, as alone or small-scale they have been seen to get thrashed on numerous occasions. Leading to why they nowadays strictly roll in huge groups.
It’s all smoke and mirrors on PS4-NA, OP. Trust me. I have been there and done that for a lot of things, although I am very ashamed of myself for indulging in the bs back then. It’s all fake. 100%.
^^^ Basically everything right here @Ch4mpTW has said. The whole environment is honestly toxic. Idk if it’s like that on other servers. I’m not even participating much at all in trials these days because:
1. Too much schoolwork lately to raid on a consistent schedule or play a lot of ESO. I want to have a real life too lol. Even still I’m bothered to join runs despite constantly reminding my raid lead to just find a different DD for main team instead of filling every time with a sub.
2. I’m personally detached from all drama going on despite being in one of the “top” endgame PvE guilds, yet just hearing about it on a daily basis makes the game as a whole less fun. I love playing with many different individuals I have met, but as a whole the toxicity between guilds on our server is childish. And truthfully there’s no one side that is better than the other - in the end all of them are essentially as toxic as one another. Nothing is going to change until people look past former grudges and others stop trolling. Another thing is that a lot of people actually thrive on and enjoy the drama. Weird but that’s the truth and why the situation’s currently this way
I still highly dislike the way the OP is going about the whole vMoL skin problem. Understand that a single skin should not matter so much to you that it effects your enjoyment from all of ESO. If you want the skin that bad just join a progression group or create your own. No one said it’ll be easy or quick - get social and this time realize that you have to if you want to earn that skin. Otherwise if you aren’t willing to dedicate the time/effort just farm gold and purchase a carry. Probably a lot less effort to purchase it tbh, but I would *only* recommend that if you have no intention of running trials in the future or improving your own player skill. This is what a lot of ppl who have no interest in trials do - there’s no reason imo that you should go down that route too. If you earn your skin it will be a much better experience, and make you a significantly better player so you can run vHoF next.
ralphylauren wrote: »Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »@ralphylauren
It is how it is unfortunately, from my experience is the same on xbox Eu.
I stopped playing in September 2017 but at the time I was looking for a no drama guild to do vmol with, including progression guilds. I was at/near top 1% pulling 40k+ self buffed on multiple classes, had flawless vma on all classes (mag and stam), had all perfect gold gear etc, had a trails ready tank, I was equipped. Still couldn't find anything.
A trails guild I was in regularly doing hm craglorn trails but never attempt mol. Anyway 1 day a guy in the guild was looking for multiple dps for vmol run, I asked to join. He said no as only people who beat it were joining, he'd only beaten it once, he was not max cp, and on the roster his dps scores was barely 30k. Me with over 40k not allowed in. Anyway point is a few times things like this happens and it proves people are can be very petty for whatever reasons.
Agreed, but is what's more alarming is that 1. It's like players are scared to speak on it because there will be players to come out and attack them. Look at me for instance someone actually had the nerve to post that 30k DPS isn't enough to get a clear on vet dlc Trails.
What i have come to realize is that a lot of people have *** up real lives and ESO is their only outlet that they can feel important in. So if they have to deny players access to content it makes them feel like that manager that's always mentally abusing them at work. It's like ESO is full of a bunch of toxic ass Darwin Award winners on PS4 na. But what ever it's like I'm speaking French and players/people have grown to accept *** like this from others.
And I'm telling you guys on a bigger note if the endgame scene stays this way and ZOS doesn't balance out the end game rewards for players who can't just "FIND OTHER PLAYERS THAT CAN TRY 6HRS DAILY AND WHO CAN PLAY AT THE SAME TIME OF DAY AND BE THAT GOOD TO COMPLETE SAID CONTENT" , this game will die.
AND AGAIN FOR ALL THE DARWIN AWARD WINNERS IM NOT ASKING TO BE CARIED IM NOT ASKING PLAYERS TO CARRY OTHERS, IM JUST ASKING ZOS TO CREATE SOMETHING VMA LIKE SO THAT I CAN GO IN COMPLETE IT AND GET MY VMAW SKIN. THATS ALL
But with saying that thanks for the advice and constructive criticism from the real polite players, I will take you guys advice
drkfrontiers wrote: »Am I the only person that thinks those skins blow chunks. I mean really you couldn't incentivise me with RL money to want to wear that thing.
BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »It's just the way it is.