Why can't we have the same character do PVP and PVE?

shiningforce

I know technically you can make a hybrid but it doesn't work well or at all really. Your character either has to be PVE or PVP based to play the game, there lays the problem especially at end game.

I like to play just one character and do end game dungeons and PvP. Why do we have to have only 1 option? Why cant we make a PVP build and when we are finished switch over to a PVE build? Do we really only get just one build? I tried to look everywhere, unless I missed something....That is just insane. So you dont get the full experience with your character you basically have to make two characters. One PVP and one PVE build.....

The game has been out for years, I see its been addressed many times but nothing has been done about it. It worked out Great in World of Warcraft. The same feature needs to be implemented into this game. What do you guys think?

jedtb16_ESO

you can provided you have the appropriate gear for each task...

WhiteCoatSyndrome

...er, what? I use my main in both PvE and PvP with no problems, barring the occasional instance of forgetting to switch my gear.

Joy_Division

What do you mean?

I have a 5 Star Grand Overload who also has the Flawless Conqueror achievement.

Beardimus

Huh? I main one character, who does both.

Simplest switch which is viable for most content is weapon switch and skills.

Sure some builds you switch gear too, and as it gets serious CP and it would be great to have manequins at home to fast switch it all at once if you needed but seriously you dont need two toons to so both

Sixty5

I literally finish a battleground run on my Stam Sorc, and jump right into a random vet. The only thing I need to do is switch food and gear.

I might not have the super optimal race or CP setup, but it honestly doesn't matter in terms of your ability to do content.

Androconium

Go to a Shrine of Stendaar and reconfigure your skill points. Reset your CP distribution.
Around 10K each time.

It all takes time

Tasear

You can there's nothing spotting you except some many gear/skill changes usually. Maybe some champion points changes to be more effective, but I walked in with my warden wearing spc and mending and healed both pve and pvp.

VaranisArano

I have a MagDK who is a PVP Healer and a PVE Tank. I just leave my CP set for PVP and swap gear & skills when I want to tank. I'm sure if I wanted to, I could swap CP for each role too, but I'm lazy about it.

Yakidafi

@shiningforce
if this is a you don't feel like resetting your CP for pvp to pve and vice versa you can simply put CP for pve content and play in the no CP campaign. Cheers.

Arobain

a build that works in pvp generally works in pve, unless you are doing trials or something

KingYogi415

It’s it’s your main you should have plenty of skills points to play whatever you want.

DoctorESO

shiningforce wrote: »

I know technically you can make a hybrid but it doesn't work well or at all really. Your character either has to be PVE or PVP based to play the game, there lays the problem especially at end game.

I like to play just one character and do end game dungeons and PvP. Why do we have to have only 1 option? Why cant we make a PVP build and when we are finished switch over to a PVE build? Do we really only get just one build? I tried to look everywhere, unless I missed something....That is just insane. So you dont get the full experience with your character you basically have to make two characters. One PVP and one PVE build.....

The game has been out for years, I see its been addressed many times but nothing has been done about it. It worked out Great in World of Warcraft. The same feature needs to be implemented into this game. What do you guys think?

Juju_beans

Well if you want to min/max then you will need dedicated toons, one for pve and one for pvp.

WakeYourGhost

Do.. Do You also have a different character for Dungeons and Trials?
...Like.. With the smallest of gear changes, you can have a character set up for pretty much everything.

Iccotak

Because PvE and PvP demand very different things.

FakeFox

I play my main (Templar) in PvE as a healer and PvP as a solobuild, the only thing I need to change is gear and occasionally CP should I play on a CP-campain. That is a requirement of two minutes and 3k gold, I really don't see the problem.

Kram8ion

Happy to be jack of all trades

Jura23

I do everything with one character. I change only couple of skills that's all.

PlagueSD

PvP and PvE on one character without respeccing...that's doable.

Tank and DPS on the same character? That's a different story.

idk

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

you can provided you have the appropriate gear for each task...

True. I have no idea where OP is coming from. I know solid players who clear all HM trials on the same character they PvP on with overlord title and previous emperor. Small changes and they go straight from one to the other. Not talking about someone who is a lightweight in either.

Heck, even in PvE dungeons, not vet trials, I have some characters I can tank, heal or dps by merely swapping some stuff out.

fastolfv_ESO

you use literally the opposite morph of every skill on atleast sorc for pve and pvp. Maybe a healer could get away with it for warden or temp but seriously your not doing both right without changing saome morphs

Doctordarkspawn

The problem has never been character spec, the problem has allways been build limitations. The type of build and game PVP and PVE are is mutually exclusive.

But if you wanna convert the character to something that'll thrive in both, it isn't exactly hard. Dunno what your trying to pull here.

mesmerizedish

As with most people replying in this thread, I do both just fine.

My main is a dragonknight; I tank in PvE and do magicka DPS in group PvP. Literally the only conflict between them is that PvP needs the damage morph for talons while tanking prefers the one that applies maim.

idk

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

you use literally the opposite morph of every skill on atleast sorc for pve and pvp. Maybe a healer could get away with it for warden or temp but seriously your not doing both right without changing saome morphs

Oddly I know a Sorc that fits the bill I spoke of before. Practically lives in PvP near the top of the rankings yet still does HM raids of all the trials. Maybe for your preference you change all your morphs, but it is hardly a requirement for being good. Heck, skill, not skills, make most of the difference.

Jhalin

Even if you do have to remorph a few skills, that's still less than 10k for an entire respec (morphs and CP)

Playing the game regularly will grant you at least that much hourly, so there's not much concern unless you're spending oodles of gold elsewhere.

Adernath

Joy_Division wrote: »

What do you mean?

I have a 5 Star Grand Overload who also has the Flawless Conqueror achievement.

Did you used the same cp and abilities setup? I think that is what the OP was asking for: Not having to respec for gold if you want to be effective in both.

Ep1kMalware

shiningforce wrote: »

I know technically you can make a hybrid but it doesn't work well or at all really. Your character either has to be PVE or PVP based to play the game, there lays the problem especially at end game.

I like to play just one character and do end game dungeons and PvP. Why do we have to have only 1 option? Why cant we make a PVP build and when we are finished switch over to a PVE build? Do we really only get just one build? I tried to look everywhere, unless I missed something....That is just insane. So you dont get the full experience with your character you basically have to make two characters. One PVP and one PVE build.....

The game has been out for years, I see its been addressed many times but nothing has been done about it. It worked out Great in World of Warcraft. The same feature needs to be implemented into this game. What do you guys think?

Have you ever heard of respeccing? ...?

It;s precisesly the same thing as 'why cants tanks and healers do vma'.

A_G_G_R_O

Androconium wrote: »

Go to a Shrine of Stendaar and reconfigure your skill points. Reset your CP distribution.
Around 10K each time.

It all takes time

Yeah but this right here is what the OP is saying is bogus and I actually agree. Why can’t I just buy a dual spec slot and switch back and forth at will. The fact this doesn’t exist yet is astonishing.

A_G_G_R_O

Also why are so many people here arguing about a feature that will literally make their lives easier... this is the dumbest community I have ever seen. “Why would you want dual spec when you can just pay gold and waste your time re allocating skills,cp, attributes anytime you go between pvp And pve or go from DD to Tank in pve hue hue hue”

ewhite106b16_ESO

The game really needs the option to have two or more configurations for your CP, stats and skill morphs. Re-speccing gets way too expensive, having to make alts of the same class for different content is just a huge waste of time. Gear changes only go so far, PVE/PVP or different roles such as dps vs tank tend to require different cp configs, different morphs or both.

For non-endgame content, you can do most or all of the veteran dungeon pledges on a PVP toon if you have the right gear. I wouldn't want to go for serious hardmodes or veteran trials though.