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So, how's PvP now "without" Miat's? Feels better or worse?
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How do your toons feel after the change?
SERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No different, since I didn't use it. (Sorry, I know that's unhelpful, but someone had to say it.)12 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭yes, I noticed that the people who used an addon that hurts a major staple of the elder scrolls series die more often to me.14 -
Wing✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TERRIBLE, I suck now that I'm not told what people are going to do ahead of time before I even see them.
jk, never used it, a great raiding guild from my previous game once said in passing "never build around an exploit" and its something that stuck with me along with my own addition that's "don't rely on things that promote bad habits"
an example of the latter is using a mod so you don't have to pay attention so you stop paying attention.ESO player since beta.
previously full time subscriber, beta-2024, game got too disappointing.
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Vahrokh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Same as before. People still dodge every single Crystal Frags even without them cheating.
Edited by Vahrokh on February 16, 2018 2:43AMVaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress
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Here is the Sorcerer Helper addon I have updated to work on current ESO12 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Seeing way less dodges.......... as a generally ranged player, makes me happy
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!3 -
Thunderknuckles✭✭✭✭yes, I noticed that the people who used an addon that hurts a major staple of the elder scrolls series die more often to me.
ha ha ha! I actually noticed that higher CP than me (at 575 currently) weren't nearly as indestructible as they were before the update. Those salty cheater tears are soooooooo intoxicating!5 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭not much has changed for me, except that I dropped the heroic slash-noxious breath and switched to ransack+wings, so I don't have to deal with 3x6k snipes out of nowhere.Edited by Ragnarock41 on February 16, 2018 3:44AM1 -
Didgerion✭✭✭✭✭
✭It is terrible!!!!
I blamed Miats for not getting the kills!
Now I have no one to blame....and still no kills! 26 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Doesn't feel that differentFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info3 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭is it true miats is still working after it got updated? I hope the stealth aspect isn't
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✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »not much has changed for me, except that I dropped the heroic slash-noxious breath and switched to ransack+wings, so I don't have to deal with 3x6k snipes out of nowhere.
It’s only just begun, comrade. Lol. I give it a few more weeks before you all on PC are at console’s population of gankers and archers. Then unfortunately you too will know the burden of tons of Lethal Injections and Snipes with alchemical poisons activating.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »not much has changed for me, except that I dropped the heroic slash-noxious breath and switched to ransack+wings, so I don't have to deal with 3x6k snipes out of nowhere.
It’s only just begun, comrade. Lol. I give it a few more weeks before you all on PC are at console’s population of gankers and archers. Then unfortunately you too will know the burden of tons of Lethal Injections and Snipes with alchemical poisons activating.
I mostly have no problems against snipe. Only thing that annoys me is how gankers are able to use this skill with zero risk involved.5 -
Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭With miats gone hopefully PC gets plagued by lethal arrow bowtards like in console so THEN maybe zos sees how much of a problem 11k lethal arrow spam from range with a defile and top of that it health dysincs you. The people saying that players don't roll dodging until they hit, yea because you can't tell if you are getting snipped unless you hear the sound which you can't at least not in console when there is a zerg near by or until you get hit. Sadly when you realize you got hit, you actually already got hit by three lethal arrows. It's such an OP broken skill it should be removed from the game specially if it's broken and people are exploiting it.
I thought pc players were more aware of exploits and bugs but i guess they still haven't been affected by this yet.Edited by Kalante on February 16, 2018 6:44AM9 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Its amazing!!!! Finaly my frags are connecting with people again. Let me say it like that: nobody was using this addon but suddenly when not working my frags are connecting like 300% more often, even hard casted are landing without any problems. This addon was hurting not only gankers but every ranged class in the game giving enough time to roll or block most of the hard hitting skills. ITS AWESOME!
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »not much has changed for me, except that I dropped the heroic slash-noxious breath and switched to ransack+wings, so I don't have to deal with 3x6k snipes out of nowhere.
It’s only just begun, comrade. Lol. I give it a few more weeks before you all on PC are at console’s population of gankers and archers. Then unfortunately you too will know the burden of tons of Lethal Injections and Snipes with alchemical poisons activating.
stealth gameplay is a staple of the elder scrolls series, and being ganked while may lead to salt isn't as bad as someone knowing you shot from stealth behind them without even seeing them.Edited by Aliyavana on February 16, 2018 6:52AM3 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Haven´t tried PvP in Cyrodil yet. Tried a few battleground matches with my werewolf and I seem to hit my piercing howl more often than before. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not, but if I´m able to hit more of my skills due to miat being gutted, I´m happy 1 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »not much has changed for me, except that I dropped the heroic slash-noxious breath and switched to ransack+wings, so I don't have to deal with 3x6k snipes out of nowhere.
It’s only just begun, comrade. Lol. I give it a few more weeks before you all on PC are at console’s population of gankers and archers. Then unfortunately you too will know the burden of tons of Lethal Injections and Snipes with alchemical poisons activating.
stealth gameplay is a staple of the elder scrolls series, and being ganked while may lead to salt isn't as bad as someone knowing you shot from stealth behind them without even seeing them.
Its not about getting ganked.
I hear the snipe sound, The guy is somewhere in front of me, he charges 3 snipes in a row, his stealth does not break, I pop wings and reflect all of them, and they all miss because cloak is a broken ability.9 -
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✭✭✭I think it's great less people dodge roll all my ranged attacks i hurl at them. And it isn't just about attacks from stealth. even not being in stealth people used to dodge all my flame reaches. Now they fall of walls like flies.
It's time i revived my long lost character Bowtard again with dual bow.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."1 -
Fischblut✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭1v1 - not really feeling the change, since I have only 1 target to pay attention to, if there are no other visual and audio distractions. Outnumbered... well, being outnumbered for me usually means inevitable death, so not much change too
It was a great year when I could stand on flag and not hold block all the time. Or slowly walk on top of outpost and troll enemy gank group. I will surely miss those notifications I played without them (was less fun of course), so now it's simply time to play like that again 
Thanks Dorrino for this beautiful addon! Those people who used it and still whined that it's unfair were hypocrites. I also saw some people who raged "Why the hell anyone uses this addon?" die to snipers - it was hilarious
Even without notifications, it has very good features
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✭✭✭✭✭I’ve seen more people sniping from back of zergs which is ironic as if I’m dealing with a bunch of people anyway; I may not have the resources to spend to keep dodging or blocking etc snipe. I still see it coming often enough to cloak. I do know I’ve been hit by some from Keep walls but I’ve not seen much in my death recap.
Now if someone does it from stealth; we’ll see but I’ve been only on my magblade since patch and I’ve been watching when I’m alone.0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭yes, I noticed that the people who used an addon that hurts a major staple of the elder scrolls series die more often to me.
Translation:
I‘m so happy I can spam snipe again.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.10 -
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Translation: an add-on shouldn't give you an extra pair of eyes... I'm sorry but if your new to the elder scrolls series stealth is a huge part of the series1v1 - not really feeling the change, since I have only 1 target to pay attention to, if there are no other visual and audio distractions. Outnumbered... well, being outnumbered for me usually means inevitable death, so not much change too
It was a great year when I could stand on flag and not hold block all the time. Or slowly walk on top of outpost and troll enemy gank group. I will surely miss those notifications I played without them (was less fun of course), so now it's simply time to play like that again
Thanks Dorrino for this beautiful addon! Those people who used it and still whined that it's unfair were hypocrites. I also saw some people who raged "Why the hell anyone uses this addon?" die to snipers - it was hilarious
Even without notifications, it has very good features
It's a war zone, your supposed to expect a stealth attack as a viable strategy and rely on audio and visual ques.Edited by Aliyavana on February 16, 2018 11:57AM6
