sigh of relief, them some good pvp changes

Wing

so many nice little fixes and changes that are going to freshen up pvp a bit me thinks, looking forward to getting back into it later today ^_^

aoe caps gone
destro ult range nerfed
miats crutch kicked out from under the arms of all the cripples
some little bugs removed
pidgeon spam dodgeable
etc.

really looking forward to this.

BrockofPercival

Wing wrote: »

so many nice little fixes and changes that are going to freshen up pvp a bit me thinks, looking forward to getting back into it later today ^_^

aoe caps gone
destro ult range nerfed
miats crutch kicked out from under the arms of all the cripples
some little bugs removed
pidgeon spam dodgeable
etc.

really looking forward to this.

lol, pigeon spam, knew immediately want you meant. I haven't been PvPing that long but yes, all the changes seem reasonable. Just have to see it all in action now.

oMrRust

I'm glad they crippled miats BS addon.

Peekachu99

You forgot:

- Immobile potions now have shorter durations.
- No more permablockers (and if you build one you’ll be as useless as a health Regen tank now)
- Health Regen bonuses now affected by defile.
- No CP in BG
- Increased BG rewards
- Generally less crutches overall, and more tactical thought required.

You could fill an ocean with the tears that are coming, though.

Bfish22090

Nm

RobZha

Wing wrote: »

pidgeon spam dodgeable

Haha, yeah that's a good change. One of the few things that would wind me up a bit when spammed.

Tarrocan

dodge dodge dodge and u win

oMrRust

Bfish22090 wrote: »

What is miats?

a cheating addon that lets people know they're being attacked by a projectile / or melee like dizzying swing. even from stealth giving them a high advantage letting them know when to block / dodge / reflect.
it also alerts you how many enemies are around you even when stealthed.

Whenever this addon is broken by zos, miat finds a way to bring it back & working again. Not sure why they don't do anything about him if he keeps bring it back ..

Ch4mpTW

Wow. Miiat’s took a blow, and Warden’s main spammable. I suppose now all of PvP on PC is going to be swarming with LagBlades now; just like on console. You all had a break from the dodge-roll monkeys and all that jazz for quite a while. But now, it seems you’ll all just endure the bs like we have on console. Hope you’re ready for bs ganks and builds now in full-effect.

TequilaFire

Roll, Roll, Roll your Blade.

Jade1986

Wing wrote: »

so many nice little fixes and changes that are going to freshen up pvp a bit me thinks, looking forward to getting back into it later today ^_^

aoe caps gone
destro ult range nerfed
miats crutch kicked out from under the arms of all the cripples
some little bugs removed
pidgeon spam dodgeable
etc.

really looking forward to this.

Yesssssssssssssssss! Its not just miats, any addon with combat queues has been downright neutered. This is a good day for many of builds, and a bad day for people on crutches.

Ch4mpTW

TequilaFire wrote: »

Roll, Roll, Roll your Blade.

LOL! Yup. They’re about to experience the bs in overdrive. I almost feel bad for folks on PC, as I don’t think they’re aware of just how bad the LagBlade problem is on console. Oh well...

red_emu

So now all you need is a stamblade, pop that mirage, shuffle and every single ability I cast at you comes back as 'dodged, dodged, dodged' despite you actually being AFK. Thanks ZOS. Now PvP will be all about perma-rollers. And no, I don't want to play as a stamina class. Magicka is officially dead. I guess all my mag classes can now go collect flowers and kill bunnies and deer, cause for sure I ain't gonna be able to kill another player's character.

LeagueTroll

Lol ‘balanced’, nerf mag more

Sergykid

Peekachu99 wrote: »

You forgot:
- No more permablockers (and if you build one you’ll be as useless as a health Regen tank now)

what is bad now for permablockers? actually, cost block has been reduced

ZOS_Edward

Hey everyone!

We're glad you like the changes that have been made at first glance. We look forward to seeing the community's thoughts on how these play out on the Live servers.

Be sure to hit us up in the PvP Combat & Skills and Combat & Character Mechanics sections of the forums with constructive feedback after getting some solid playtime with the changes.

VaranisArano

I'm going recycle a bad song patische I came up with in honor of the new ganker - Vicious Death bombs that will shortly be exploding all over the place.

My new motto for this patch: if you're squishy, don't stand by me.

And that put me in mind of a song... (Don't) Stand By Me

When the bombers come, and Vicious Death procs,
And the noob with low health fails to flee.
No I won't be blown up, no I-I-I won't kill my friends
Just as long as squishies don't come and stand by me.

Darlin' noobs, don't stand by me, ooh stay away Oh please
Don't stand by me Don't stand by me, stand by me

Samadhi

TequilaFire wrote: »

Roll, Roll, Roll your Blade.

Well, Have 3 DKs, 3 Templars, 3 Sorcerers, and 3 Wardens and they gave me a 15th slot in a game with 5 classes

if it is any comfort my main is already a Bosmer, so was not planning to go rolly-polly on this character

Mayrael

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm going recycle a bad song patische I came up with in honor of the new ganker - Vicious Death bombs that will shortly be exploding all over the place.

My new motto for this patch: if you're squishy, don't stand by me.

And that put me in mind of a song... (Don't) Stand By Me

When the bombers come, and Vicious Death procs,
And the noob with low health fails to flee.
No I won't be blown up, no I-I-I won't kill my friends
Just as long as squishies don't come and stand by me.

Darlin' noobs, don't stand by me, ooh stay away Oh please
Don't stand by me Don't stand by me, stand by me

xD loled hard now Ill will sing that everytime Ill die to vicious dead xD

TequilaFire

ZOS_Edward wrote: »

Hey everyone!

We're glad you like the changes that have been made at first glance. We look forward to seeing the community's thoughts on how these play out on the Live servers.

Be sure to hit us up in the PvP Combat & Skills and Combat & Character Mechanics sections of the forums with constructive feedback after getting some solid playtime with the changes.

Are you guys going to be available for real discussions about problems or just spin doctors?

Datolite

Why do they keep changing their mind about BG CP?

Not looking forward to respeccing again just because they can't figure their [snip] out.

Or here's an idea: can't we have both CP and non-CP, just like in Cyro?

[Edited to remove profanity]

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

at least these changes have taken effect including the queue fixing at last

VaranisArano

TequilaFire wrote: »

ZOS_Edward wrote: »

Hey everyone!

We're glad you like the changes that have been made at first glance. We look forward to seeing the community's thoughts on how these play out on the Live servers.

Be sure to hit us up in the PvP Combat & Skills and Combat & Character Mechanics sections of the forums with constructive feedback after getting some solid playtime with the changes.

Are you guys going to be available for real discussions about problems or just spin doctors?

Are we PVPers going to have real discussions or are we just going to continue screaming for nerfs about everything that kills us?

I mean, I don't think its fair to point all the fingers at the devs on this one.

Jamini

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Why do they keep changing their mind about BG CP?

Because BGs lost a ton of population after the dumb-as-hell change to CP in the first place. They are (rightfully) reverting it to a system that worked.

Zer0oo

Just wait till you see the pvp meta in this patch till you draw your conclusion on how good this patch is.


BG will be a proc meta since no cp and really strong new proc sets
off-balance changes will be an insane buff for stam builds
...

Vaoh

Sounds like lots of great changes as a whole! Very excited for them to go live on console.

The only thing I don’t really like is the reduced range of the Elemental Rage morph of Destro Ult which affects PvE.... should’ve only nerfed the range of Eye of the Storm imo. Those interrupt changes are kind of worrying too but idk the affect they’ll have yet.

A_G_G_R_O

RIP will miss Miats.... on the plus side atleast my Faction full of crouching khajiits and Bosmers spamming snipe will finally be worth a damn.

cazlonb16_ESO

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Roll, Roll, Roll your Blade.

LOL! Yup. They’re about to experience the bs in overdrive. I almost feel bad for folks on PC, as I don’t think they’re aware of just how bad the LagBlade problem is on console. Oh well...

Well, I'm not aware since i don't play on console. That perma rollers will be back with a vengeance is one of the more obvious consequences of the changes though. Not sure how anyone can be happy about this - Yes, the undodgeable stuff was a crutch and not a good solution, but armies of perma rollers everywhere are infinitely worse.

sirrmattus

I literally don't understand how they let miats go on for so long. I can't wait to kill all the scrubs who couldn't listen or watch for attacks. Also immovable pot nerf. So nice

Waffennacht

ZOS_Edward wrote: »

Hey everyone!

We're glad you like the changes that have been made at first glance. We look forward to seeing the community's thoughts on how these play out on the Live servers.

Be sure to hit us up in the PvP Combat & Skills and Combat & Character Mechanics sections of the forums with constructive feedback after getting some solid playtime with the changes.

Will you pay attention in two weeks when console gets it?

DHale

There are much better add ons out there (just not public). Just like real life the haves and have nots.