Can someone please explain to me what I just watched...

Thealteregoroman

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSbv73JkkFI

I am a healer and I have NO IDEA what this guy is talking about or why he is giving healers a hard time.
Can someone please tell me what is wrong cause I am genuinely confused.

Also...yea um nevermind I wont say it. lol too easy...

Reverb

He sounds like a fun guy…

Loralai_907

I admit I am not the most social butterfly, but I don't want to play with this guy.....

ValkynSketha

Why is this guy so mad, anyway IN MY OPINION the new off-balance update is even more demanding of healers to run shock wall since that healers wall combined with other shock abilities of sorc and shock enchant of magdds is enough to have off-balance uptime for heavy attacking resources return, as well minor vulnerability from concused while magdds can use fire wall combined with engulfing flames from dk tanks for increased flame damage.

Balamoor

Typical Angry Army fan.......

kargen27

Well he got one thing right. It is unfortunate that he is hosting whatever that was.

geonsocal

Balamoor wrote: »

Typical Angry Army fan.......

go black knights!!!

Cage_Lizardman

Because uuhhh *ing uuhhh whatever like *ing but here we go, right *ing here....

I think that made me dumber just listening to half of it. I have no clue what he was trying to say.

Reverb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yptXkLglKkA

Thealteregoroman

@Cage_Lizardman @geonsocal @kargen27 @Balamoor @ValkynSketha @mommadani907 @Reverb

starkerealm

The snot did I just watch?

He's crying about the offbalance debuff doing... what, exactly? "Running Law..." Law? Law of Julianos? How does that have anything to do with... you know, nevermind.

rhapsodious

oh hey it's gilliam's pal

I think he's trying to say he doesn't want to run lightning wall on a healer because of the way off-balance works, but there's 5 minutes of profanity around that point? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thealteregoroman

starkerealm wrote: »

The snot did I just watch?

He's crying about the offbalance debuff doing... what, exactly? "Running Law..." Law? Law of Julianos? How does that have anything to do with... you know, nevermind.

@starkerealm me right now...

starkerealm

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

The snot did I just watch?

He's crying about the offbalance debuff doing... what, exactly? "Running Law..." Law? Law of Julianos? How does that have anything to do with... you know, nevermind.

@starkerealm me right now...

I'm thinking more:



...right now. But, you know, to each his own.

Cadbury

Your ESO streaming community, ladies and gentlemen.

starkerealm

To be fair, he's complaining about how Wall of Elements will no longer set the boss off balance 100% of the time, which... that's where the logic falls apart for me. I have no idea what he's responding to, or what exactly provoked this particular tantrum.

VilniusNastavnik

What he misses is that the cool down only takes effect if the off balance ends. If he was smart enough, he would realise it can be kept up 100% of the time with enough skill preventing the cool down starting.

idk

Whoever did that video does not seem to have much of a clue.

His comment to "meta" players to get a clue based on the PTS patch notes for 3.3.0 makes zero sense (3.3 is the current PTS). Also, I have not seen a healer needing to run WoE as he seems to indicate in awhile since many magicka players run lighting WoE. Especially sorcs.

I find it entertaining that, presumably speaking of "meta" players, that they cannot read nor do math.

It really seems he is one that likes to rant for the sake of it as though it helps bring in viewers or something. It seems he does not raid with well organized groups is all I can say that I would type in the forums.

EDIT: I do find it humorous that he typed a message on the page of that video challenging

Oh please trolls, come and try to justify the stupidity of your favorite tubers. I'm begging at this moment.

I think that really sums up the type of person we are talking about.

Fortunatly for me he is on PS4.

Houshiki

Ok... I watched it... and what?

Yeah, mag dps and healers running lightning wall is redundant, but its a good type of redundancy in that they can keep a higher uptime of off-balance and take advantage of exploiter.
As a magsorc, I don't see the need to running it myself, and will likely slot an inferno backbar instead, and get more dps from illambris. This coming update, healers running charged lightning wall with shock glyphs might be even more useful, particularly to stam dps.
Well, idk, just my thoughts. But seriously though, that vid... just what was he going on about...

static_recharge

I couldn't even finish watching it. Kudos to those that did. I understand what he's talking about with wall of elements, but I don't think it needed to be said in quite that way. Talk about exaggeration.

idk

rhapsodious wrote: »

oh hey it's gilliam's pal

I think he's trying to say he doesn't want to run lightning wall on a healer because of the way off-balance works, but there's 5 minutes of profanity around that point? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

He is also looking at notes for the current PTS, not live, while making those comments. It seems he does not understand what he speaks of is not how it currently works in game. The profanity merely makes him look even worse.

Jhalin

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

What he misses is that the cool down only takes effect if the off balance ends. If he was smart enough, he would realise it can be kept up 100% of the time with enough skill preventing the cool down starting.

@VilniusNastavnik No, uptime is hard capped at 21%. We get 4s when it procs, and then must wait 15s after that to be able to proc offbalance again.

The 100% uptime was a bug that ZOS removed despite feedback on that functionality being mostly positive. They don't want offbalance to be a source of group damage; they just want to further enforce the heavy attack meta we all love to hate.

klowdy1

Does this guy have actual viewers? His voice, inflection, and pauses are just so annoying. He is obviously not very intelligent, since he is talking about a lack of knowledge from "meta" players for something that isn't even on live yet. I know the hardcore players jump on PTS to get a head start on running new content, but no one gets too attached to anything on the test server. This guy is a lifetime basement dweller. While making this am very video about a game, he is also typing, more than likely on redit about the same thing the video is about, as if his opinion matters to anyone with sense.

VilniusNastavnik

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

What he misses is that the cool down only takes effect if the off balance ends. If he was smart enough, he would realise it can be kept up 100% of the time with enough skill preventing the cool down starting.

@VilniusNastavnik No, uptime is hard capped at 21%. We get 4s when it procs, and then must wait 15s after that to be able to proc offbalance again.

The 100% uptime was a bug that ZOS removed despite feedback on that functionality being mostly positive. They don't want offbalance to be a source of group damage; they just want to further enforce the heavy attack meta we all love to hate.

@Jhalin I don't have an issue with the Heavy Attack meta. I have 350 ping on a good day. Ever tried La Weaving with 350 ping? Ha meta means I can put down my DoTs, proc any buffs off cooldown and then spam HA until I need to reapply and still hit 30K DPS. Able to get a sh*t tonne more before Lightning HA was nerfed.

Jhalin

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

What he misses is that the cool down only takes effect if the off balance ends. If he was smart enough, he would realise it can be kept up 100% of the time with enough skill preventing the cool down starting.

@VilniusNastavnik No, uptime is hard capped at 21%. We get 4s when it procs, and then must wait 15s after that to be able to proc offbalance again.

The 100% uptime was a bug that ZOS removed despite feedback on that functionality being mostly positive. They don't want offbalance to be a source of group damage; they just want to further enforce the heavy attack meta we all love to hate.

@Jhalin I don't have an issue with the Heavy Attack meta. I have 350 ping on a good day. Ever tried La Weaving with 350 ping? Ha meta means I can put down my DoTs, proc any buffs off cooldown and then spam HA until I need to reapply and still hit 30K DPS. Able to get a sh*t tonne more before Lightning HA was nerfed.

Good for you? I find it boring and the cause of the now slow and monotonous combat patterns. That doesn't mean 100% offbalance uptime is possible anymore.

VilniusNastavnik

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

What he misses is that the cool down only takes effect if the off balance ends. If he was smart enough, he would realise it can be kept up 100% of the time with enough skill preventing the cool down starting.

@VilniusNastavnik No, uptime is hard capped at 21%. We get 4s when it procs, and then must wait 15s after that to be able to proc offbalance again.

The 100% uptime was a bug that ZOS removed despite feedback on that functionality being mostly positive. They don't want offbalance to be a source of group damage; they just want to further enforce the heavy attack meta we all love to hate.

@Jhalin I don't have an issue with the Heavy Attack meta. I have 350 ping on a good day. Ever tried La Weaving with 350 ping? Ha meta means I can put down my DoTs, proc any buffs off cooldown and then spam HA until I need to reapply and still hit 30K DPS. Able to get a sh*t tonne more before Lightning HA was nerfed.

Good for you? I find it boring and the cause of the now slow and monotonous combat patterns. That doesn't mean 100% offbalance uptime is possible anymore.

See, you can hate it all you want. But some of us don't live next door to the server and have to deal with high latency. So, as a result, we have to make do with what we can to achieve competitive numbers to be able to access end game content. If the HA meta was removed I'd be back to 15-20K DPS and probably quit the game because I'd be only able to do normal craglorn trials at best, and Vet non HM 4 man dungeons at worst. So Good for me? I know it is. You don't like it? That's your problem, sahn, not mine.

Jhalin

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

What he misses is that the cool down only takes effect if the off balance ends. If he was smart enough, he would realise it can be kept up 100% of the time with enough skill preventing the cool down starting.

@VilniusNastavnik No, uptime is hard capped at 21%. We get 4s when it procs, and then must wait 15s after that to be able to proc offbalance again.

The 100% uptime was a bug that ZOS removed despite feedback on that functionality being mostly positive. They don't want offbalance to be a source of group damage; they just want to further enforce the heavy attack meta we all love to hate.

@Jhalin I don't have an issue with the Heavy Attack meta. I have 350 ping on a good day. Ever tried La Weaving with 350 ping? Ha meta means I can put down my DoTs, proc any buffs off cooldown and then spam HA until I need to reapply and still hit 30K DPS. Able to get a sh*t tonne more before Lightning HA was nerfed.

Good for you? I find it boring and the cause of the now slow and monotonous combat patterns. That doesn't mean 100% offbalance uptime is possible anymore.

See, you can hate it all you want. But some of us don't live next door to the server and have to deal with high latency. So, as a result, we have to make do with what we can to achieve competitive numbers to be able to access end game content. If the HA meta was removed I'd be back to 15-20K DPS and probably quit the game because I'd be only able to do normal craglorn trials at best, and Vet non HM 4 man dungeons at worst. So Good for me? I know it is. You don't like it? That's your problem, sahn, not mine.

Dude this has zero to do with the topic at hand. Why are you bringing up your ping when we're talking about Offbalance? I really don't understand your paragraph of just...offtopic ranting

You realize this change doesn't help you either, right? You will be doing less damage now that you're losing out on most of the damage Exploiter would have been giving you.

starkerealm

klowdy1 wrote: »

Does this guy have actual viewers? His voice, inflection, and pauses are just so annoying. He is obviously not very intelligent, since he is talking about a lack of knowledge from "meta" players for something that isn't even on live yet. I know the hardcore players jump on PTS to get a head start on running new content, but no one gets too attached to anything on the test server. This guy is a lifetime basement dweller. While making this am very video about a game, he is also typing, more than likely on redit about the same thing the video is about, as if his opinion matters to anyone with sense.

He's got a little over 1k subscribers, which is basically a rounding error on YouTube. The video's been viewed 113 times, as I write this, and I know I'm three of those views. So, no; no one's watching him.

aeirios

after about 2 minutes into the video it was clear to me the guy in the video might need to seek professional psychiatric help. i could not be bothered to watch the rest.

Thealteregoroman

starkerealm wrote: »

klowdy1 wrote: »

Does this guy have actual viewers? His voice, inflection, and pauses are just so annoying. He is obviously not very intelligent, since he is talking about a lack of knowledge from "meta" players for something that isn't even on live yet. I know the hardcore players jump on PTS to get a head start on running new content, but no one gets too attached to anything on the test server. This guy is a lifetime basement dweller. While making this am very video about a game, he is also typing, more than likely on redit about the same thing the video is about, as if his opinion matters to anyone with sense.

He's got a little over 1k subscribers, which is basically a rounding error on YouTube. The video's been viewed 113 times, as I write this, and I know I'm three of those views. So, no; no one's watching him.

@starkerealm







Dead.

VilniusNastavnik

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

What he misses is that the cool down only takes effect if the off balance ends. If he was smart enough, he would realise it can be kept up 100% of the time with enough skill preventing the cool down starting.

@VilniusNastavnik No, uptime is hard capped at 21%. We get 4s when it procs, and then must wait 15s after that to be able to proc offbalance again.

The 100% uptime was a bug that ZOS removed despite feedback on that functionality being mostly positive. They don't want offbalance to be a source of group damage; they just want to further enforce the heavy attack meta we all love to hate.

@Jhalin I don't have an issue with the Heavy Attack meta. I have 350 ping on a good day. Ever tried La Weaving with 350 ping? Ha meta means I can put down my DoTs, proc any buffs off cooldown and then spam HA until I need to reapply and still hit 30K DPS. Able to get a sh*t tonne more before Lightning HA was nerfed.

Good for you? I find it boring and the cause of the now slow and monotonous combat patterns. That doesn't mean 100% offbalance uptime is possible anymore.

See, you can hate it all you want. But some of us don't live next door to the server and have to deal with high latency. So, as a result, we have to make do with what we can to achieve competitive numbers to be able to access end game content. If the HA meta was removed I'd be back to 15-20K DPS and probably quit the game because I'd be only able to do normal craglorn trials at best, and Vet non HM 4 man dungeons at worst. So Good for me? I know it is. You don't like it? That's your problem, sahn, not mine.

Dude this has zero to do with the topic at hand. Why are you bringing up your ping when we're talking about Offbalance? I really don't understand your paragraph of just...offtopic ranting

You realize this change doesn't help you either, right? You will be doing less damage now that you're losing out on most of the damage Exploiter would have been giving you.

You complained about the heavy attack meta.. which this thread has nothing to do with, and everything to do with off balance changes.. specifically the section pertaining to the use of WoE on healers. I provided a scenario where a lot of people, myself included, are reliant upon the heavy attack meta that you hate so much.

I am not actually impacted all that much. I have been on the PTS for the last 4 weeks doing rotations. the 30K was on the PTS where Off balance has been nerfed already.