What is the base chance to dodge a projectile?

Rungar · January 2018

I know major evasion (15%) but what is the nominal chance. Even with shuffle on I rarely dodge anything and with other players it seems like they either dodge nothing or everything. Its not uncommon to get 3-4 dodges in a row and I was wondering if anyone knew how it worked?

Sixty5 · January 2018

Base chance is zero.

However there are some oddities to the mechanics, such as if multiple hits would occur at the same time and the first is dodged, all the hits will be dodged.

Likewise the dodge frames you get from rolling can extend for about half a second after rolling on occasion.

Sadly passive dodge is a pretty sad mechanic for the fact that when you play with it, it feels like nothing is really happening, whilst playing against it tends to feel bad when a linchpin ability just misses.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · January 2018

Zero. If you do nothing, you will get hit. But if you dodge roll, then all projectiles will miss you for the duration of the Dodge role. This is what makes dodge roll such a powerful defence.

More to the point, your statement of you "rarely dodge anything" but other people get 3-4 dodges in row, I would read this, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias and try to have a better data set then just your memory or "feelings" before making conclusions

Beardimus · January 2018

For dodge builds id say its 100% lol they are like a slippery teflon coated fish.

Thogard · January 2018

i'd say zero.

but.. i don't run shuffle and actually dodged a projectile the other day. not a rolldodge dodge, but a dodge dodge with the matrix juke animation and everything.

so who knows.

mhc9840 · January 2018

Projectiles have brains of their own.
By default they hit 100%.

casparian · January 2018

Thogard wrote: »

i'd say zero.

but.. i don't run shuffle and actually dodged a projectile the other day. not a rolldodge dodge, but a dodge dodge with the matrix juke animation and everything.

so who knows.

This has happened to me a few times as well, on magicka toons without Shufflr or Blur. No idea what's up with it.

Nussi28 · January 2018

When you dodge something and don't have major evasion applied by yourself, maybe someone else applied it to you. There's the Gossamer set from CoS which 5th bonus is 10% chance to apply major evasion when you heal a friendly target.

The_Brosteen · January 2018

Rungar wrote: »

I know major evasion (15%) but what is the nominal chance. Even with shuffle on I rarely dodge anything and with other players it seems like they either dodge nothing or everything. Its not uncommon to get 3-4 dodges in a row and I was wondering if anyone knew how it worked?

Dodge roll. Why do people still not understand dodge roll.

"Shuffle is broken people dodge more than 15% of moves sometimes its 100%
Dude, they're dodge rolling.

"I hardly dodge anything while others dosge everything"

Bruh, dodge roll.

Inarre · January 2018

Is it a dodge every time? There is also meridias blessed armor.

Nussi28 · January 2018

Inarre wrote: »

Is it a dodge every time? There is also meridias blessed armor.

This works only if you have it equipped by yourself. When one have equipped it, he should be aware of the bonus...

dotme · January 2018

Evidently you can stand perfectly still and dodge

https://youtu.be/0hKPuQ_2X9U

Note: not my video - See

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392534/not-practically-standing-still-and-being-able-to-still-dodge/

Asardes · January 2018

If the skill is listed as dodgeable:
0% if you do nothing
5% with Minor Evasion (Warden:Animal Companions:Deceptive Predator)
15% with Major Evasion (blocking with Hist Bark set, running Medium Armor:Evasion & morphs or Nightblade:Assassination:Blur & morphs)
100% if you roll dodge at the right time

magictucktuck · January 2018

Thogard wrote: »

i'd say zero.

but.. i don't run shuffle and actually dodged a projectile the other day. not a rolldodge dodge, but a dodge dodge with the matrix juke animation and everything.

so who knows.

well there is the healer set that gives you major evasion, someone could have healed you with that set on.

Ankael07 · January 2018

First second after casting cloak also makes you dodge projectiles

Inarre · January 2018

Nussi28 wrote: »

Inarre wrote: »

Is it a dodge every time? There is also meridias blessed armor.

This works only if you have it equipped by yourself. When one have equipped it, he should be aware of the bonus...

Reread the original post....

Rungar wrote: »

I know major evasion (15%) but what is the nominal chance. Even with shuffle on I rarely dodge anything and with other players it seems like they either dodge nothing or everything. Its not uncommon to get 3-4 dodges in a row and I was wondering if anyone knew how it worked?

Zorgon_The_Revenged · January 2018

Thogard wrote: »

i'd say zero.

but.. i don't run shuffle and actually dodged a projectile the other day. not a rolldodge dodge, but a dodge dodge with the matrix juke animation and everything.

so who knows.

I've had this happen a few times, but that was in the first year of the games release and hasn't happened for years. I did wonder if maybe they needed a base number above 0 for some reason and use 0.001 and I just got very lucky, then again maybe not.

Getern · January 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

For dodge builds id say its 100% lol they are like a slippery teflon coated fish.

not since Warden is the game, not anymore, not anymore...