Brands of the Imperium does not proc Infernal Guardian

Solariken

This set:



Does not proc this set:



But it should! Please fix asap, this would be a fun synergy.

VaranisArano

Infernal Guardian pretty clearly procs when you use a "damage shield ability" like Healing Ward or Igneous Shield. Brands of the Imperium or its crafted cousin Whitestrake's Retribution aren't making use of an ability.

Solariken

VaranisArano wrote: »

Infernal Guardian pretty clearly procs when you use a "damage shield ability" like Healing Ward or Igneous Shield. Brands of the Imperium or its crafted cousin Whitestrake's Retribution aren't making use of an ability.

Not true @VaranisArano , in most cases all of the "proc" effects are considered "abilities," not limited to what you can slot on your bars. You can proc IG with a glyph of shielding, for example. Another example is that Tormentor procs Tremorscale.

Kram8ion

Can’t remember but isn’t there a shield that procs when you block in the cp tree?
I wondering this too

Solariken

Kram8ion wrote: »

Can’t remember but isn’t there a shield that procs when you block in the cp tree?
I wondering this too

Yeah, great thought @Kram8ion, I'll test that next time I log in.

VaranisArano

Solariken wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Infernal Guardian pretty clearly procs when you use a "damage shield ability" like Healing Ward or Igneous Shield. Brands of the Imperium or its crafted cousin Whitestrake's Retribution aren't making use of an ability.

Not true @VaranisArano , in most cases all of the "proc" effects are considered "abilities," not limited to what you can slot on your bars. You can proc IG with a glyph of shielding, for example. Another example is that Tormentor procs Tremorscale.

Tormentor procs Tremorscale because its a taunt and Tremorscale is limited to "when you taunt an enemy", not "taunt abilities". I did not know about the glyph of shielding proccing IG, which is interesting.

Solariken

VaranisArano wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Infernal Guardian pretty clearly procs when you use a "damage shield ability" like Healing Ward or Igneous Shield. Brands of the Imperium or its crafted cousin Whitestrake's Retribution aren't making use of an ability.

Not true @VaranisArano , in most cases all of the "proc" effects are considered "abilities," not limited to what you can slot on your bars. You can proc IG with a glyph of shielding, for example. Another example is that Tormentor procs Tremorscale.

Tormentor procs Tremorscale because its a taunt and Tremorscale is limited to "when you taunt an enemy", not "taunt abilities". I did not know about the glyph of shielding proccing IG, which is interesting.

I would caution you against putting to much faith in ZOS' tooltip verbiage, they are terribly inconsistent and misleading, bugs aside. Alteration Mastery also says "abilities" but applies its bonus to roll, block, bash, sprint, and literally everything that costs a resource.

VaranisArano

Solariken wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Infernal Guardian pretty clearly procs when you use a "damage shield ability" like Healing Ward or Igneous Shield. Brands of the Imperium or its crafted cousin Whitestrake's Retribution aren't making use of an ability.

Not true @VaranisArano , in most cases all of the "proc" effects are considered "abilities," not limited to what you can slot on your bars. You can proc IG with a glyph of shielding, for example. Another example is that Tormentor procs Tremorscale.

Tormentor procs Tremorscale because its a taunt and Tremorscale is limited to "when you taunt an enemy", not "taunt abilities". I did not know about the glyph of shielding proccing IG, which is interesting.

I would caution you against putting to much faith in ZOS' tooltip verbiage, they are terribly inconsistent and misleading, bugs aside. Alteration Mastery also says "abilities" but applies its bonus to roll, block, bash, sprint, and literally everything that costs a resource.

I get that you want to argue that it should apply, and that's fine. I'm just pointing out that the tooltip gives a pretty clear explanation of why it doesn't apply right now. If that's inconsistent with the way other proc sets function on ZOS' part, you've got a point about the inconsistency.

Kram8ion

From what I'm gathering IG only procs with ability shields like bone shield and barrier not shields that themselves are proccs
Which is why the cp shield is intriguing but glyph shields are interesting too, hopefully someone can test and tell us what is happening

Solariken

Kram8ion wrote: »

Can’t remember but isn’t there a shield that procs when you block in the cp tree?
I wondering this too

Great news @Kram8ion, the shield granted from the "Reinforced" CP passive/proc DOES proc Infernal Guardian. Pretty cool.

Kram8ion

Solariken wrote: »

Kram8ion wrote: »

Can’t remember but isn’t there a shield that procs when you block in the cp tree?
I wondering this too

Great news @Kram8ion, the shield granted from the "Reinforced" CP passive/proc DOES proc Infernal Guardian. Pretty cool.

Oh cool thanks for testing Hopefully I don’t have to dump a whole bunch of cps into garbage stuff on the tree (for my toon) although I do spend a lot of money and time there

Kram8ion

Any news on shield glyphs procc infernal?

Solariken

Kram8ion wrote: »

Any news on shield glyphs procc infernal?

It does proc on glyph of shielding as I mentioned above - I've been making great use of this lol

Kram8ion

Solariken wrote: »

Kram8ion wrote: »

Can’t remember but isn’t there a shield that procs when you block in the cp tree?
I wondering this too

Great news @Kram8ion, the shield granted from the "Reinforced" CP passive/proc DOES proc Infernal Guardian. Pretty cool.

Wow what an idiot I've been waisting not only a slot but an expensive one at that, goodbye harness I've found a new friend in reinforced and it's free now I'm off to find a glyph of shielding
Infernal guardian may not be bis but it's so much fun