We need a list...

Vhozek

We need clarification on every word used in this game. What is a Melee Weapon? What is Healing Taken vs Healing Received? we need a list of EVERYTHING because it has been pretty confusing for me when I'm trying to look into a build I wanna make.
I'm trying to make a fist fighter and I've seen old threads that claim Igneous Weapons works with fist damage because it works with Light and Heavy attacks, but other skills that add damage to Melee Weapon such as Swift racial skill for the Orcs doesn't work with fist damage even though your fists are a capable Melee Weapon if you're even allowed to use them. Plus it would be nice to add fists to the Melee Weapon list since there's so many damn threads of people wanting an Unarmed Skill tree.
And why the hell does Adrenaline Rush restore Stamina upon landing a hit with Melee attacks? What is a Melee attack at this point?

By the way, equipping ONLY a shield doesn't give me any punching animations. Enemies just sort of bleed and take damage.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Rant part of this aside this would actually be very useful. In Dual Wielding Melee ranged attacks like Fury are channels so it’s not buffed by melee damage bonuses.

Knowing what is coded as what would be great.

Narvuntien

It would also be nice if things were clarified. Perhaps skills should have little tags like melee, direct damage, charge. You could colour the words so it is super obvious what is what. You hover over the skill and you see all the things it scales with.

There is a lot of confusing things you just have to test half the time to see what kind of skill it is.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Narvuntien wrote: »

It would also be nice if things were clarified. Perhaps skills should have little tags like melee, direct damage, charge. You could colour the words so it is super obvious what is what. You hover over the skill and you see all the things it scales with.

There is a lot of confusing things you just have to test half the time to see what kind of skill it is.

This I hate having to test skill to see if they work for the set I just grinded. I used to get a full set and theory craft my head off. Then I started looking online for all the sets and all the fun ended there.

See a great set like the bonuses grind or buy it using time or gold and then boom bonus not on half the powers common sense tells you it should work on.

Cavedog

I couldn't agree more. Each skill should have a tag that says SPECIFICALLY what kind of damage it does; magic, bolt, melee, etc. should be listed/tagged on every weapon and skill in the game.

The biggest problem in this game is that the math used to calculate damage, healing etc. is not publicly available, and ZOS has very poor communication with this kind of data.

Vhozek

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I'm so sorry if I'm not supposed to tag you all like this, but the lack of clarification on this is incredibly confusing and I just wanna know if you guys currently have something that you think everybody knew about or if this is something that just flew everyone's heads. I'm not mad I'm just hella confused and it frustrates me lol

starkerealm

Vhozek wrote: »

I'm trying to make a fist fighter and...

Oh... yeah, if you ever intend to be in the vicinity of other players, please do not do that.

Don't get me wrong. I'd be thrilled if we got a monk class, that has a dedicated unarmed bar, but as the game currently exists, this one just isn't viable.

Vhozek wrote: »

And why the hell does Adrenaline Rush restore Stamina upon landing a hit with Melee attacks? What is a Melee attack at this point?

Attacks that are flagged as melee, and light/heavy attacks with weapons that have been flagged as melee. Which, evidently, does not include unarmed strikes.

Generally speaking, if you've got a DW, a 2h, or a Sword and Board, your attacks will be melee, and your weapon abilities will be melee.

Depending on your class, you may have other abilities that also count as melee attacks.

Vhozek wrote: »

By the way, equipping ONLY a shield doesn't give me any punching animations. Enemies just sort of bleed and take damage.

Okay, legitimately, that's kinda funny.

Vhozek

But fists are also a melee weapon. Definitely dealing melee damage too.

Inhuman003

Maybe for a Arena combat type style for BG or duels tournament mode.