My Warden tank is OP as hell and i love it.

Ajaxduo

RouDeR wrote: »

poopdropers

GreenhaloX

RouDeR wrote: »

Pros:
- Its the king of Selfsustain
- best Selfheals
- minor and major protection
- capable of doing a bit AoE dps
- nice group heal for 4 man vet content
- can use the same CP in PvP and PvE
- can use the same sets in PvP PvE and No cp PVP
- fun to play
- UNbeatable in small scale pvp when played right
- snare resistance

Cons :
- Payed


Demonstration
https://youtu.be/Qd-G1LGFW-8

Pffft.. why were you not naked with your bow? Pathetic, dude.. You could've dps that down faster with that.

Well, that's how many dungeons, norm or vet, turn out when the dpsers and healer are down. Doesn't matter the class of the tank, it's usually the tank left standing. Even if you have tons of soul gems on you, it is kind of difficult to stop to rez another when you're getting pommeled from every direction. If you stop to do that, you're probably going to wipe too. I can't count how many times that happened to me. Yes, even during trials, I'm the lone gunner running around bashing and slashing away, buffing and fluffing, until I can rez others. I think it's any tank, not just Warden. Any tank, if built right, is build for taking tons of incoming damages and being able to manage its resources quite efficiently. Sure, it will take a while to dps them down, but, it's either that or wipe yourself to reset and get everyone up. Nahh, not me, I'm not wiping. I'll try my best to rez somebody if that chance presents itself, but, yeah, it is mostly like this video.

On the latter, I don't make a hey, look at my bad ass self clip and post it for everyone to see. Sure, there is a certain self-gratification for being able to continue on, while all others are knocked out the fight, to dps down and take out all adds and the boss, in order to prevent a reset to that boss fight. However, this is seemingly just a bragging, hey, look at my bad self clip. Good job and kudos to you in staying alive and continuing on the fight preventing it to reset, but.. do you understand that any tank, in the right hands, is also capable of that and not just a Warden tank?

generalmyrick

alrighty, maybe, but i didn't consider it bragging because he said he loved the warden, listed his video of him kiting for 4 minutes AND dying.

i don't brag by posting about dying.

:-(

sorry.

SydneyGrey

GreenhaloX wrote: »

....Even if you have tons of soul gems on you, it is kind of difficult to stop to rez another when you're getting pommeled from every direction. If you stop to do that, you're probably going to wipe too. ...

This. Every time someone posted "why didn't you rez your group?" I was thinking "whaaaaat .... how would he have done that without dying immediately. Did they even see the video, and how many monsters were in that room attacking at once, including a boss?" Maybe it would have been possible for him to rez someone ... if he hadn't been out of soul gems, and if he had some major armor/shield/heal-over-time to protect him all going at the same time.

Waffennacht

The best time, imo to rez, is immediately after popping trees

Megabear

SydneyGrey wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

....Even if you have tons of soul gems on you, it is kind of difficult to stop to rez another when you're getting pommeled from every direction. If you stop to do that, you're probably going to wipe too. ...

This. Every time someone posted "why didn't you rez your group?" I was thinking "whaaaaat .... how would he have done that without dying immediately. Did they even see the video, and how many monsters were in that room attacking at once, including a boss?" Maybe it would have been possible for him to rez someone ... if he hadn't been out of soul gems, and if he had some major armor/shield/heal-over-time to protect him all going at the same time.

Thank you for this, hit the nail hard.

Megabear

RouDeR wrote: »

Pros:
- Its the king of Selfsustain
- best Selfheals
- minor and major protection
- capable of doing a bit AoE dps
- nice group heal for 4 man vet content
- can use the same CP in PvP and PvE
- can use the same sets in PvP PvE and No cp PVP
- fun to play
- UNbeatable in small scale pvp when played right
- snare resistance

Cons :
- Payed


Demonstration
https://youtu.be/Qd-G1LGFW-8

One of my two Wardens are built similarly It's really awesome. My other tank is pretty crazy too but does less damage.

code65536

PlagueSD wrote: »

Oh look, another tank that doesn't carry soul gems. Would have been a lot easier if you ressed someone..

He (and any other tank in that situation) would be dead if they tried to rez.

Gargath

It's a bad tank if it deals alone with all the mobs while his/her team mates lie down dead.
Seeing you bragging about how OP you are to deal with mobs in an endless fight doing only little damage, when teammates have to waste their precious time in their state of death, makes me laugh. This is also sad.
You should let yourself being killed and start it over in full squad, then to actually waste other's time, like in this movie.
If you are so good why did you go inside with a group?

Edit: Oh just watched it to the end, so you died and still say it's an OP build? Funny .

Kneighbors

SydneyGrey wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

....Even if you have tons of soul gems on you, it is kind of difficult to stop to rez another when you're getting pommeled from every direction. If you stop to do that, you're probably going to wipe too. ...

This. Every time someone posted "why didn't you rez your group?" I was thinking "whaaaaat .... how would he have done that without dying immediately. Did they even see the video, and how many monsters were in that room attacking at once, including a boss?" Maybe it would have been possible for him to rez someone ... if he hadn't been out of soul gems, and if he had some major armor/shield/heal-over-time to protect him all going at the same time.

LOL. So this exactly is the test for your tank build. Are you capable to res the team or not? It's like a goalkeeper who is staying 1vsX. Most people don't believe that he will make it, but when he makes it he proves that he's the top tier goalkeeper.

Instead what we see here is a guy who is simply wasting his and his teams time. 10 minutes for nothing.

Kneighbors

code65536 wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

Oh look, another tank that doesn't carry soul gems. Would have been a lot easier if you ressed someone..

He (and any other tank in that situation) would be dead if they tried to rez.

You ate totally wrong. Video starts with 4 adds. I was ressing tens of times during that phase. These trash mobs are not even dealing damage to a real tank. Even if you are totally average tank there's no chance you will die to 4 mobs in bosses light attacks there. All you have to do is to wait till boss makes his heavy attack, block it and then cast magma. This way you can res even with 8 adda on you. Basics for any tank.

Lexxypwns

Everyone in here that doesn't think warden is the most useful PVP tank... just stop, you're wrong

Gan Xing

I can do the same thing on my warden tank, but deal more damage and rez my allies. Even with adds on me. Knowing boss mechanics and being able to time your rezzes are important. If this was 2 years ago, you would be seeing a Magplar solo that boss with blazing sun shield.

hmsdragonfly

rob_ber wrote: »

@RouDeR , I'm not here to argue with you. Just want you to ask a simple question. And yes, I do have a DK and a Warden tank. At least for me Warden tank is fun toon, to fool around, tank vet content, etc. But when required to tank serious stuff I always use DK. Oh, the question, ofc. How can you seriously tank without chains and talons? Mindlessly running around taunting big blobs ....

Warden does have chains (sort of) and talons (sort of).

Tryxus

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

rob_ber wrote: »

@RouDeR , I'm not here to argue with you. Just want you to ask a simple question. And yes, I do have a DK and a Warden tank. At least for me Warden tank is fun toon, to fool around, tank vet content, etc. But when required to tank serious stuff I always use DK. Oh, the question, ofc. How can you seriously tank without chains and talons? Mindlessly running around taunting big blobs ....

Warden does have chains (sort of) and talons (sort of).

Gripping Shards = Talons
Frozen Gate = Chains (sorta)

TheTraveler

SydneyGrey wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

....Even if you have tons of soul gems on you, it is kind of difficult to stop to rez another when you're getting pommeled from every direction. If you stop to do that, you're probably going to wipe too. ...

This. Every time someone posted "why didn't you rez your group?" I was thinking "whaaaaat .... how would he have done that without dying immediately. Did they even see the video, and how many monsters were in that room attacking at once, including a boss?" Maybe it would have been possible for him to rez someone ... if he hadn't been out of soul gems, and if he had some major armor/shield/heal-over-time to protect him all going at the same time.

Because at least if you try and rez one player, you can maybe get the group up again with that person's help. If you don't have the ability to bring down the boss by yourself, I'd much rather that my tank wiped while trying to rez, and reset the fight than having to lie there for ages watching him going in circles, especially if one has limited time at your disposal.

Peekachu99

TheTraveler wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

....Even if you have tons of soul gems on you, it is kind of difficult to stop to rez another when you're getting pommeled from every direction. If you stop to do that, you're probably going to wipe too. ...

This. Every time someone posted "why didn't you rez your group?" I was thinking "whaaaaat .... how would he have done that without dying immediately. Did they even see the video, and how many monsters were in that room attacking at once, including a boss?" Maybe it would have been possible for him to rez someone ... if he hadn't been out of soul gems, and if he had some major armor/shield/heal-over-time to protect him all going at the same time.

Because at least if you try and rez one player, you can maybe get the group up again with that person's help. If you don't have the ability to bring down the boss by yourself, I'd much rather that my tank wiped while trying to rez, and reset the fight than having to lie there for ages watching him going in circles, especially if one has limited time at your disposal.

Most of my tanks are full solo vet ready. I’ve done CoS HM solo finish for example (full last phase), and yeah there’s no opportunity to rez nooblets if you’re just focused on surviving. Most players don’t realize how demanding fighting a boss and a dozen (or more) mobs can be.

Oftentimes it’s also faster to clear 800K HP yourself than going through the whole song and dance with three idiots again. Keep in mind skill levels vary greatly. And if your tank can clear the content themselves and people are just being liabilities, they should lay on the ground and try and see what they could be doing better. I have a three Soul gem rule. After that, you wait for me to finish.

Mannix1958

RouDeR wrote: »

Houshiki wrote: »

So I watched the vid, and read the thread thus far... am I supposed to be impressed?
Ok, OP survived a good amount of time time solo, I'll give you that.

Now to pick apart OP pros.
- DKs are king of sustain.
- Templars have best self-heals. Sorcs too if they've slotted surge and hurricane or something else.
- Minor/Major protection, sure, not like templars and nbs don't have that.
- Every class has some sort of aoe dmg ability and every class can tank. What's the point in being capable of doing aoe dps with a tank's dps?
- If you want a heal tank, templars are probably the better choice.
- 3k isn't really all that significant just to switch cp from pve to pvp.
- Couldn't really tell what gear. Saw in an earlier post ironblood+desert rose+troll king. There're better sets to use for pve. This seems more like a pvp set up.
- Fun to play? Debatable.
- Unbeatable? Well, tanks are generally difficult to kill in pvp due in part being tanks.
- Snare resistant? I'm guessing you mean the warden's winter embrace passive.

Tellmeagain how Templars will have best selfheals with 10kmagika ?
Or how the DK will be able to Selfsustain on 20 mobs + boss if builded for permablock ?
Wardens have the best resource return passive in the game and the best ultigen, also the healing Over time is scalled with mymax health and does not require for me to drop on low health in order to heal affectively.
ALso yeaha DK proper heal requires Igneousshield also yeah which is like what 4k shield cost + 4K HEAL COST SO u will spend 8k magika of your Magica pool just to heal yourself ONCE.
You poopdropers obviously DONT KNOW how to tank , and what is the best tank for non trial Vet content.

Wow...I thought some were being unfair to you...but your comments about DK reveal a lack of understanding of that class as a tank.

TheTraveler

Guys, I have a magwarden that I've been thinking of trying out as a tank. Are there any of you who has tried using frost staff as

Peekachu99 wrote: »

TheTraveler wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

....Even if you have tons of soul gems on you, it is kind of difficult to stop to rez another when you're getting pommeled from every direction. If you stop to do that, you're probably going to wipe too. ...

This. Every time someone posted "why didn't you rez your group?" I was thinking "whaaaaat .... how would he have done that without dying immediately. Did they even see the video, and how many monsters were in that room attacking at once, including a boss?" Maybe it would have been possible for him to rez someone ... if he hadn't been out of soul gems, and if he had some major armor/shield/heal-over-time to protect him all going at the same time.

Because at least if you try and rez one player, you can maybe get the group up again with that person's help. If you don't have the ability to bring down the boss by yourself, I'd much rather that my tank wiped while trying to rez, and reset the fight than having to lie there for ages watching him going in circles, especially if one has limited time at your disposal.

Most of my tanks are full solo vet ready. I’ve done CoS HM solo finish for example (full last phase), and yeah there’s no opportunity to rez nooblets if you’re just focused on surviving. Most players don’t realize how demanding fighting a boss and a dozen (or more) mobs can be.

Oftentimes it’s also faster to clear 800K HP yourself than going through the whole song and dance with three idiots again. Keep in mind skill levels vary greatly. And if your tank can clear the content themselves and people are just being liabilities, they should lay on the ground and try and see what they could be doing better. I have a three Soul gem rule. After that, you wait for me to finish.

I have also soloed many undaunted dungeons; but usually if you're going with a group that has a tank and a healer, you tend to min-max because you expect your healer to keep you alive and your tank to keep the bosses off of you. This does not always happen and then one adjusts your tactics.... which you sadly can only do if and while you are alive.

Diminish

Bad thing is, this boss fight is simple. Worse thing is you are bragging about your tank that I can do this same thing with on my 18k light armor mag sorc. I think I even have a video of it... I'll check my PS4 next time I'm on it.

ak_pvp

cecibergesnrb18_ESO wrote: »

I'm not an expert but DK has talons, chains, sorcery and brutality buffs, shields for the party I still prefer it. For PVE I mean.

Warden has comparable talons, spikes has an ice dot that chills and procs maim. Everyone has chains, but a little weaker than DKs, shields are decent, kinda weak though, and the sorc/brutality buff is rarely used. Unless you mean the minor one.

BaneOfBattler

well played sir, deffinitely a great tank.

i remember some saying wardens were bottom of the barrel, glad you uploaded the vid m8

Lykanus

Why are some people necroing out such old threads? Bored or trolling? That thing is a good long thing from the past!