nirnhoned vs sharpened PvP stam DK

gammelscroll

Can someone with little knowledge explain whats best traits for PvP?

Here is scenario:

2 handed sword with sharpened and wep dmg enchant
2 handed sword with nirnhoned and wep dmg enchant

or

2 handed mace for 20% ignore phys resist with nirnhoned traits

or

2 handed x

with infused shock/poisen etc

my theory is that nirnhoned 2 handed mace is best, then you also ignore 20% phys resist, a better sharpned. It sounds better but iam not sure. And nirnhoned also gives more to healing .

would realy like a answer on that. Or if zenimax can explain

Brrrofski

Nirn maul. Hits like a truck. Penetration is useless against shields, but you retain usefulness of nirn. Maul will be good against heavy armor users. It's not unusual for someone to have 25k resistances in PvP. 25% of that is 5k - double sharpened.

Zvorgin

Mauls are handicapped because the penetration is calculated after all the other factors. Say you fighting someone with light armor who has 12k resists and you have 4k penetration from CP. The Maul is only getting you 20% of 8k so 1600. This is ignoring all the other factors that give penetration as well, so if you are in a coordinated group, the maul becomes even more worthless.

If mauls calculated off the targets base resistances and not on their "post penetration" resistances, it would be a different story.

gammelscroll

Zvorgin wrote: »

Mauls are handicapped because the penetration is calculated after all the other factors. Say you fighting someone with light armor who has 12k resists and you have 4k penetration from CP. The Maul is only getting you 20% of 8k so 1600. This is ignoring all the other factors that give penetration as well, so if you are in a coordinated group, the maul becomes even more worthless.

If mauls calculated off the targets base resistances and not on their "post penetration" resistances, it would be a different story.

so your saying sword with sharpened is better?

Zvorgin

gammelscroll wrote: »

Zvorgin wrote: »

Mauls are handicapped because the penetration is calculated after all the other factors. Say you fighting someone with light armor who has 12k resists and you have 4k penetration from CP. The Maul is only getting you 20% of 8k so 1600. This is ignoring all the other factors that give penetration as well, so if you are in a coordinated group, the maul becomes even more worthless.

If mauls calculated off the targets base resistances and not on their "post penetration" resistances, it would be a different story.

so your saying sword with sharpened is better?

2h Sword is better than 2h maul in most situations. The trait difference between nirnhoned and sharpened would depend on the situation and other factors but both are very close in performance. Sword is going to perform better than maul most of the time though due to maul's diminishing returns since it's penetration is the last thing calculated.

yodased

axes for pvp. Bleed goes through everything.

Wreuntzylla

yodased wrote: »

axes for pvp. Bleed goes through everything.

Shhhh. Too soon. TOO SOON.

Gan Xing

I'm planning on switching to axes. I need to bleed my opponents out.... (oh and wear another set that puts Major Defile on them)

Narvuntien

Typically you want your Rally on your nirnhorned bar, more WD more heals, also similar for vigor. Whille unless you are using onslaught you will want you front, damage bar to be sharpened for more damage.

DeHei

In PvP nirnhoned will allways be stronger then sharpened!

This damage from nirn scale with everything. sharpened dont work against shieldsstackers for example and gives more selfheal. With 2H ult the damage effect is growing stronger!

silver1surfer69

i know its a old thread.

i dont want to explain everything, just gather info in net and go to target skeleton to test yourself.

sharpened is 2015, thats outdated.

For pvp 2h, axe is the weapon of choice.

Trait: infused with oblivion dmg (=substract life regen).

Ragnarock41

asylum Nirn mace if your front bar is 2h
Defending vMA Axe for backbar 2h choice.

a nirn sword will also do the job.

Don't forget:

Nirn>sharpened for 2h.

IF you want penetration that bad go with lover mundus,maybe use spriggans, and noxious breath for major fracture.

silver1surfer69

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

asylum Nirn mace if your front bar is 2h
Defending vMA Axe for backbar 2h choice.

a nirn sword will also do the job.

Don't forget:

Nirn>sharpened for 2h.

IF you want penetration that bad go with lover mundus,maybe use spriggans, and noxious breath for major fracture.

you talking pve?

Ragnarock41

silver1surfer69 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

asylum Nirn mace if your front bar is 2h
Defending vMA Axe for backbar 2h choice.

a nirn sword will also do the job.

Don't forget:

Nirn>sharpened for 2h.

IF you want penetration that bad go with lover mundus,maybe use spriggans, and noxious breath for major fracture.

you talking pve?

PvP ofcourse.

Xvorg

yodased wrote: »

axes for pvp. Bleed goes through everything.

More especifically, precise/nirn axes. Those crit ticks hurt