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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8100050/#Comment_8100050

Horns of the Reach Delver Giveaway

ThorinWolfgang
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Hello!
I was chosen as the winner in “horns of the reach delver giveaway”
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But I was told that I can not be a winner because I am a resident of a non-suitable country.
34r90cp.png
idaslu.png
So I have a question, where are the rules about the country and the other terms of the lottery?
Just compare two lotteries:
THE #ESO #MILLIONREASONSTOPLAY $1,000,000 (USD) GIVEAWAY:
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25551
THE HORNS OF THE REACH DELVER GIVEAWAY!:
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26181
In the first case, all the rules are specified in the post, and there is also a separate link to the rules. In the second case, not one word about the country or other restrictions for participants (only about the conditions under which it is necessary to make a screenshot).
Especially considering that the award is non-material, I see no reason to divide participants into countries and do not understand the grounds for refusing my participation. What do You think about it?
Edited by ThorinWolfgang on September 27, 2017 1:04PM
  • Morgul667
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    You just got ZOSed :/
  • Defilted
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    The issue is your countries laws, not ZOS.
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    What I'd like to know is how would they allow people to even register for these things if they already know they can't obtain them if they win?
  • XDragonDoomX
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    Can I have your crowns ? :D
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  • KingMagaw
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    I think if they are good enough to take your money from Ukraine then they should be good enough to reward you with this prize.

    I dont know any legal jargon but cant see why they would use where you play from as a negative factor. If me and you subscribe, we contribute the same.
  • MakeWaySenche
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    Wowww, that sucks so bad XD
  • Voxicity
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    rekt.

    I'll take the crowns instead, hit me up ZOS
  • Tyrion87
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    OMG, that sucks! I was nearly sure that this giveaway was for everyone. I know many people from my country (which, as I see now, is also not eligible) who entered this giveaway because there was NO INFORMATION regarding country restrictions.

    I feel really sorry for you... :(

    ZOS, once again you showed disrespect for your players.
  • Bam_Bam
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    That is so harsh. Racist too...
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  • Tyrion87
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    Defilted wrote: »
    The issue is your countries laws, not ZOS.

    Well, don't you think that Zenimax should have properly informed all players about it when they were entering the giveaway? Players from countries that are not eligible should not have a possibility at all to enter the giveaway. But in that case they did!
  • Sovjet
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    Maybe people need to start reading the rules before the enter a giveaway :)
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  • MyGTX
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    like a zooooos
  • FoolishHuman
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    They don't do this to annoy you or because they are racist, it's just the result of local laws being different per country. For some countries the laws are just to complicated to run such a giveaway so companies just exclude them from participating.
  • essi2
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    Afaik the reward not being Material unfortunately doesn't matter, since both the crowns and the mount have monetary value defined by ZOS.

    The eligible countries not being included in the giveaway post is a *** on ZOS' part.
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  • pod88kk
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    On the plus side you've got a cool name
  • Tyrobag
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    Baranthus wrote: »
    That is so harsh. Racist too...

    It has nothing to do with racism, Its due to Ukraine's laws. There isn't really anything ZoS can do about it. The only issue on ZoS' end is that they failed to inform players whether or not they were eligible.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    essi2 wrote: »
    Afaik the reward not being Material unfortunately doesn't matter, since both the crowns and the mount have monetary value defined by ZOS.

    The eligible countries not being included in the giveaway post is a *** on ZOS' part.

    Especially when its not a real $ transaction mostly, even though yes crowns are only bought with real $ but if the reward is just crowns and a mount I would say it should be available to anyone since your not making any real $ off it.
  • LexBo
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    Hello!
    I was chosen as the winner in “horns of the reach delver giveaway”
    2nlwtua.jpg
    But I was told that I can not be a winner because I am a resident of a non-suitable country.
    34r90cp.png
    idaslu.png
    So I have a question, where are the rules about the country and the other terms of the lottery?
    Just compare two lotteries:
    THE #ESO #MILLIONREASONSTOPLAY $1,000,000 (USD) GIVEAWAY:
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25551
    THE HORNS OF THE REACH DELVER GIVEAWAY!:
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26181
    In the first case, all the rules are specified in the post, and there is also a separate link to the rules. In the second case, not one word about the country or other restrictions for participants (only about the conditions under which it is necessary to make a screenshot).
    Especially considering that the award is non-material, I see no reason to divide participants into countries and do not understand the grounds for refusing my participation. What do You think about it?

    We the non-americans, are only here to buy and play there game.(they are just like the high elves)
  • Dragonnord
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    Your country isn't eligible? That's what ZOS says? I can't believe a country doesn't allow a gaming account to receive a virtual award. However, the gaming company CAN receive REAL MONEY from you? ;)

    Interesting...
     
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  • essi2
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    essi2 wrote: »
    Afaik the reward not being Material unfortunately doesn't matter, since both the crowns and the mount have monetary value defined by ZOS.

    The eligible countries not being included in the giveaway post is a *** on ZOS' part.

    Especially when its not a real $ transaction mostly, even though yes crowns are only bought with real $ but if the reward is just crowns and a mount I would say it should be available to anyone since your not making any real $ off it.

    Should be? Yes, but that is not how most laws regarding giving away things that have value work. Whether the value is real (Money, Hardware, Food etc.) or Imaginary (Crowns, in-game cosmetic, in-game item etc.) doesn't usually matter, legally.

    My guess is that the laws in this case are unusually draconian or non-standard compared to the other countries where Zenimax does business.
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  • Easily_Lost
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    I was excluded from THE #ESO #MILLIONREASONSTOPLAY $1,000,000 (USD) GIVEAWAY: Reason I live if Florida. Oh well
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  • DenniMyuu
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    Ouch :c
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  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    They probably did that *** on purpose to avoid giving out free currency. Shady as usual.
  • fallentemplar
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    ZoS ill have the rewards :wink: you know to make it fair on everyone ... :D
  • adeptusminor
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    You should have given them somebodies address who you trust and just said that you were visiting your family in Ukraine. :(
    Edited by adeptusminor on September 27, 2017 1:43PM
  • Aeorath
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    Defilted wrote: »
    The issue is your countries laws, not ZOS.

    It could very well be the case, but I think our OP can legally buy crowns in the crown store, but ZOS cannot just give him the free crowns?

    Come on...
  • Rokh
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    Oh... sorry to hear that!

    This same time last year I got the RoM/CoS skins and had a great time! But this year I got busy with RL and just couldn't find the time to even attempt Falkreath/Bloodroot before the contest due dates.

    I am actually now glad I did not spam my fellow third world countrymen's social media with my nonsense :p
  • adeptusminor
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    Aeorath wrote: »
    Defilted wrote: »
    The issue is your countries laws, not ZOS.

    It could very well be the case, but I think our OP can legally buy crowns in the crown store, but ZOS cannot just give him the free crowns?

    Come on...

    Giveaways and lotteries have very specific rules and laws in each country and even different states in the US.
  • Goratesque
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    Well, if I were you I would tell that I'm going to sue them and they'll be lawyered for that. Then I'd like to see them struggling with how "non-suitable country" in "legal" way while drinking a glass of good wine.
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  • oranje_elf
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    To be honest, I am still waiting for any reaction from ZOS in this thread.. Some form of a compensation (free mount/motif/whatever else) will be appropriate in this situation. Kind of "we created a mess, but we care about our players" gesture. I cannot imagine my reaction if I would first get an email with congratulations, only to later realize that I am "not eligible" for some stupid legal constraints that were not even properly communicated!

    Overall, I find these events/lotteries that work in some parts of the world and do not work in some other a bit shady - if you are fine with a player spending his/her money on your game - he is automatically eligible for any events like this. And it should be up to ZOS to find out how to make it work for everyone, especially in the case of virtual currencies.
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