Best mag NB race??

agaupig

Hello there
My stamblade reached CP660 recently, and I'd like to try a MagNB for my minor one.
Except ORC, which is the best race for MagNB in this version?? Dark or high elf???
I personally think high elf is slightly ahead due to better magika sustain, is it???

Khenarthi

Depends. I have a Khajiit magblade which I love, but I recently made an Argonian magblade which is more efficient (that healing is simply awesome). Of those you listed, Altmer has a larger magicka pool, so if you don't care for looks or backstory I'd recommend Altmer.

Krayzie

My concealed weapon build is breton.

My destro/resto is high elf.

My bomb blade is dark elf.

Aisle9

Either Altmer or Dunmer.

Dunmer is probably best, since you'll be using fire staves anyways as a magblade, but Altmer is plenty good too. Breton can have it's niche, if you play PvP, the extra spell resistance is nice if you're fighting magsorcs while in light armor, and don't know how to cloak (which would be me).

If you're thinking about sustain, then, no Altmer are not the best, Bretons are. They have the same 10% max magicka, but also some magicka cost reduction. It's been nerfed, and it's just 3% now, but if you add it up to worm it becomes 7%, which is nothing to scoff at. Personally I prefer cost reduction to magicka regen. Yes, a little bit more regen is nice, but when you think about it, unless you heavily invest in magicka regen. 10% of 800 is 80, so you really only start to see it once you're around 2k regen, and 200 regen more is pretty much a 4th jewelry slot for a glyph.

Altmer give you more versatility, if you want to use a lightning staff, or something, but other than that not much. It's really a better choice for magsorcs, as you can get much more out of the magicka regen passive (I'm talking PvP here).

Def Dunmer if you're going for min-max damage.

Enslaved

I have Dunmer and I use it in PvE a lot, it is good choice for mNB.
I also have a mNB Saxhleel, and I adore how good it is in PvP. Passives are just too good to ignore.

Aisle9

Ah, right, if you go for PvP, argonian master race, no doubt about it.

Runschei

Dunmer ofc.

Turelus

High Elf is a little ahead for sustain, I personally play and enjoy Dark Elf with no issues.
I enjoy the extra bit of stamina, fire resistance (burning immune) and fire damage.

SoLooney

dunmer is probably gonna be your higher dps because magblades pretty much use fire staves exclusively. high elf would be 2nd cause of mag recovery and fire damage

grannas211

High Elf or Argonian

BigBadVolk

Dark Elf for pve, High elf/argonian for pvp and Breton is also good, but Breton is the kind of Orc of Magicka classes

Olupajmibanan

I disagree with the opinion on double fire staff on magNB in terms of vet trials.
NB should have one lightning staff (mostly being equiped on back bar) for two reasons. Firstly gives you a powerful AoE spammable which you don't have with two fire staves. Secondly, it's good to ensure maximum uptime on off-balance via Blockade of Storms.

You know, why would you take a Fire/Fire NB into vet trial instead of another magickaSorc? Sorc has excelent damage, provides synergy for tank to ensure good alkosh uptime and has blockade of storms for off-balance. Fire/Fire NB provides nothing outside of good dps.

This is why I prefer Altmer for magickaNB PvE. It boosts your blockade, both components of llambris. Also it provides more max magicka than dunmer improving all our abilities.

Eirella

Dark Elf!

Enslaved

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

I disagree with the opinion on double fire staff on magNB in terms of vet trials.
NB should have one lightning staff (mostly being equiped on back bar) for two reasons. Firstly gives you a powerful AoE spammable which you don't have with two fire staves. Secondly, it's good to ensure maximum uptime on off-balance via Blockade of Storms.

You know, why would you take a Fire/Fire NB into vet trial instead of another magickaSorc? Sorc has excelent damage, provides synergy for tank to ensure good alkosh uptime and has blockade of storms for off-balance. Fire/Fire NB provides nothing outside of good dps.

This is why I prefer Altmer for magickaNB PvE. It boosts your blockade, both components of llambris. Also it provides more max magicka than dunmer improving all our abilities.

If we talk trials, you will for sure have plenty of mSorcerers providing off balance for entire raid.

technohic

I race changed my NB to Argonian and havent looked back even when running stam. It just seems to have something to offer either way and particularly with potion use.

Izaki

For PvE, the BiS is Dunmer straight up. Double Inferno staves, Light attacks being about 15% of your total damage, as well as both of your ults being flame damage and obviously the strongest skill on your bar (Blockade of Fire) also being flame damage, the 3% extra flame damage that Dunmer offers over Altmer is a pretty big deal.

For PvP, anything goes, but Altmer would be my first choice and Dunmer second. Bretons are behind in damage, but they do have the benefit of sustain.

Autumnhart

Argonian, or Breton vamp, assuming you plan to PVP.

Peekachu99

If you're ever going to be sap tanking, Argonian is the clear choice.

Aisle9

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

I disagree with the opinion on double fire staff on magNB in terms of vet trials.
NB should have one lightning staff (mostly being equiped on back bar) for two reasons. Firstly gives you a powerful AoE spammable which you don't have with two fire staves. Secondly, it's good to ensure maximum uptime on off-balance via Blockade of Storms.

You know, why would you take a Fire/Fire NB into vet trial instead of another magickaSorc? Sorc has excelent damage, provides synergy for tank to ensure good alkosh uptime and has blockade of storms for off-balance. Fire/Fire NB provides nothing outside of good dps.

This is why I prefer Altmer for magickaNB PvE. It boosts your blockade, both components of llambris. Also it provides more max magicka than dunmer improving all our abilities.

If we're talking trials, sorcs should apply blockade of storms, because they lose nothing in terms of damage by doing it, especially if you run netch.

If you have no sorcs, there's usually a healer with a lightning staff.

Magblades don't contribute anything except damage, so why would you gimp that ?

As for AoE... sap, man, just sap

rhapsodious

Aisle9 wrote: »

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

I disagree with the opinion on double fire staff on magNB in terms of vet trials.
NB should have one lightning staff (mostly being equiped on back bar) for two reasons. Firstly gives you a powerful AoE spammable which you don't have with two fire staves. Secondly, it's good to ensure maximum uptime on off-balance via Blockade of Storms.

You know, why would you take a Fire/Fire NB into vet trial instead of another magickaSorc? Sorc has excelent damage, provides synergy for tank to ensure good alkosh uptime and has blockade of storms for off-balance. Fire/Fire NB provides nothing outside of good dps.

This is why I prefer Altmer for magickaNB PvE. It boosts your blockade, both components of llambris. Also it provides more max magicka than dunmer improving all our abilities.

If we're talking trials, sorcs should apply blockade of storms, because they lose nothing in terms of damage by doing it, especially if you run netch.

If you have no sorcs, there's usually a healer with a lightning staff.

Magblades don't contribute anything except damage, so why would you gimp that ?

As for AoE... sap, man, just sap

The more lightning staves you have, the greater off-balance uptime. You can't particularly lose there. Plus you get your lightning heavy for AOEing.

Sap Essence... no. It's costly, you get Major Sorcery from pots, and the healing is okay I guess but nothing you can't get with Strife or a healer.

NyassaV

I hate High Elf so either Dunmer or Breton

BigBadVolk

rhapsodious wrote: »

Aisle9 wrote: »

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

I disagree with the opinion on double fire staff on magNB in terms of vet trials.
NB should have one lightning staff (mostly being equiped on back bar) for two reasons. Firstly gives you a powerful AoE spammable which you don't have with two fire staves. Secondly, it's good to ensure maximum uptime on off-balance via Blockade of Storms.

You know, why would you take a Fire/Fire NB into vet trial instead of another magickaSorc? Sorc has excelent damage, provides synergy for tank to ensure good alkosh uptime and has blockade of storms for off-balance. Fire/Fire NB provides nothing outside of good dps.

This is why I prefer Altmer for magickaNB PvE. It boosts your blockade, both components of llambris. Also it provides more max magicka than dunmer improving all our abilities.

If we're talking trials, sorcs should apply blockade of storms, because they lose nothing in terms of damage by doing it, especially if you run netch.

If you have no sorcs, there's usually a healer with a lightning staff.

Magblades don't contribute anything except damage, so why would you gimp that ?

As for AoE... sap, man, just sap

The more lightning staves you have, the greater off-balance uptime. You can't particularly lose there. Plus you get your lightning heavy for AOEing.

Sap Essence... no. It's costly, you get Major Sorcery from pots, and the healing is okay I guess but nothing you can't get with Strife or a healer.

Well the best setup for trials would be fire/lightning for trash and double fire on bosses (mostly because ST is more important on bosses except vHoF because of drain mechanics).
ALso do not forget that Nightblades buff Stamina with wep crit ( dont remember which passive it is, but 100% sure )

CavalryPK

FOR PVP ARGONIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN !

Lexxypwns

Argonian master race

SanTii.92

lizars.

exeeter702

The correct answer is argonian.

BigBadVolk

damn slaves, go back to work

agaupig

Ok then,
I'll run Argonian!
Thx guys

exeeter702

agaupig wrote: »

Ok then,
I'll run Argonian!
Thx guys

Well hold on.. all jokes aside, it really depends on what type of magblade you intend to play.

Argonians are particularly good if you are going to play to the nb hot strength generally accompanied with ranged kiting approach, or if you are going to play dedicated nb healer in small scale, which they are incredible at and easily rival templar and warden healers in pvp (dont let anyone convince you otherwise).

If you want to be more explosive, damage oriented, all in, the other races arent really bad choices either.