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The first update Yay! Changelog added to first post

Next update (Clockwork City) is going to be really generous for the Warden, and especially for this build. Because a lot of bugs like the Maturation passive and the Blue Betty cleanse are being fixed and for this build in particular, we get the following:

- Our Guardian gets a HP buff: from 20k to 25k. This will help it survive powerful AoEs like Skoria or Hurricane a bit better (remember to keep the Bear healthy)
- Our Guardian also receives immunity to snares, roots and CCs for 8 secs when we activate it. This is currently a bit of a problem, as the Bear can be put out of commision with Petrify, Fear, Rearming Trap, etc, ...
- Master Destruction Staff gets a buff: 30% Cost Reduction on Destructive Reach along with a 2k Direct Damage bonus. We may lose 1k Magicka next update, but this buff will turn Frost Clench into a strong spammable

Again: comments, advice and criticism are all welcome

Waffennacht

What's your tool tip for enchanted growth?

I like the build, have done something similar. I do suspect that it is weak against defile. Your burst heal is enchanted growth, with your stats I suspect it's has a modest tool tip. Without trees, I've found that builds with defile can be very difficult to beat.

It's definitely a strong build, I'd take it to duels and would expect to win the vast majority, with maybe mag NBs, and a few Templar builds giving the hardest time

Tryxus

Waffennacht wrote: »

What's your tool tip for enchanted growth?

I like the build, have done something similar. I do suspect that it is weak against defile. Your burst heal is enchanted growth, with your stats I suspect it's has a modest tool tip. Without trees, I've found that builds with defile can be very difficult to beat.

It's definitely a strong build, I'd take it to duels and would expect to win the vast majority, with maybe mag NBs, and a few Templar builds giving the hardest time

Enchanted Growth heals for about 7k. Pollen for 10k

Defile definitely was a bit of an issue at first, which is why I eventually settled on Malubeth to counteract it somewhat. With that, Trellis and Pollen, you can easily survive without trees

Waffennacht

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

What's your tool tip for enchanted growth?

I like the build, have done something similar. I do suspect that it is weak against defile. Your burst heal is enchanted growth, with your stats I suspect it's has a modest tool tip. Without trees, I've found that builds with defile can be very difficult to beat.

It's definitely a strong build, I'd take it to duels and would expect to win the vast majority, with maybe mag NBs, and a few Templar builds giving the hardest time

Enchanted Growth heals for about 7k. Pollen for 10k

Defile definitely was a bit of an issue at first, which is why I eventually settled on Malubeth to counteract it somewhat. With that, Trellis and Pollen, you can easily survive without trees

I do love me some Beth, which is a good point (though against especially mNBs, they constantly break the beam)

It's pretty solid to incorporate the bear would require some major overhaul on my Build (why I asked about the tool tip)

Love the synergy.

Do you bring it to BGs?

Lexxypwns

Waffennacht wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

What's your tool tip for enchanted growth?

I like the build, have done something similar. I do suspect that it is weak against defile. Your burst heal is enchanted growth, with your stats I suspect it's has a modest tool tip. Without trees, I've found that builds with defile can be very difficult to beat.

It's definitely a strong build, I'd take it to duels and would expect to win the vast majority, with maybe mag NBs, and a few Templar builds giving the hardest time

Enchanted Growth heals for about 7k. Pollen for 10k

Defile definitely was a bit of an issue at first, which is why I eventually settled on Malubeth to counteract it somewhat. With that, Trellis and Pollen, you can easily survive without trees

I do love me some Beth, which is a good point (though against especially mNBs, they constantly break the beam)

It's pretty solid to incorporate the bear would require some major overhaul on my Build (why I asked about the tool tip)

Love the synergy.

Do you bring it to BGs?

Malubeth is a non-factor in a fight against a ranged mageblade. You will keep it proc'ed maybe 10% of the time you're major defiled and a properly built mageblade will have a lot of points in befoul meaning it's not even a direct even trade-off in the first place.

That being said, if you can make the bear function as desired this is a very solid build. I've yet to see a magika warden build without a significant weakness either defensively or in the lack of killing power after covering all their defensive holes

Tryxus

Waffennacht wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

What's your tool tip for enchanted growth?

I like the build, have done something similar. I do suspect that it is weak against defile. Your burst heal is enchanted growth, with your stats I suspect it's has a modest tool tip. Without trees, I've found that builds with defile can be very difficult to beat.

It's definitely a strong build, I'd take it to duels and would expect to win the vast majority, with maybe mag NBs, and a few Templar builds giving the hardest time

Enchanted Growth heals for about 7k. Pollen for 10k

Defile definitely was a bit of an issue at first, which is why I eventually settled on Malubeth to counteract it somewhat. With that, Trellis and Pollen, you can easily survive without trees

I do love me some Beth, which is a good point (though against especially mNBs, they constantly break the beam)

It's pretty solid to incorporate the bear would require some major overhaul on my Build (why I asked about the tool tip)

Love the synergy.

Do you bring it to BGs?

Yup. It's not really great for Chaos Ball, as Forest/Thicket is better suited for that mode. But for the other modes, this build still works like a charm though you'll have to keep a close eye on the Bear to prevent it from wandering off or attacking the wrong opponents

GrigorijMalahevich

@Tryxus greetings brother! Nice build! I wanted to buy Morrowind to check out mag and stam warden.

Btw, if you don't use lich, why mag regen glyphs? Cost reduction are much more efficient if you cast 1 spell per second... just imho

Tryxus

Valera Progib wrote: »

@Tryxus greetings brother! Nice build! I wanted to buy Morrowind to check out mag and stam warden.

Btw, if you don't use lich, why mag regen glyphs? Cost reduction are much more efficient if you cast 1 spell per second... just imho

Hey Val Warden is a lot of fun for sure

As for the glyphs: I figured that since I'm a Breton, I alrdy have sufficient cost reduction through my racials. So I've mostly been keeping to Spell Damage and Magicka Regen glyphs on my jewelry and found that with all 3 Magicka Regen glyphs I always have sufficient Magicka (especially thx to Netch) without losing too much power for my burst.

Fun fact tho: I actually considered Lich instead of Riposte at first. Rlly glad I went with Riposte eventually

SanTii.92

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

What's your tool tip for enchanted growth?

I like the build, have done something similar. I do suspect that it is weak against defile. Your burst heal is enchanted growth, with your stats I suspect it's has a modest tool tip. Without trees, I've found that builds with defile can be very difficult to beat.

It's definitely a strong build, I'd take it to duels and would expect to win the vast majority, with maybe mag NBs, and a few Templar builds giving the hardest time

Enchanted Growth heals for about 7k. Pollen for 10k

Defile definitely was a bit of an issue at first, which is why I eventually settled on Malubeth to counteract it somewhat. With that, Trellis and Pollen, you can easily survive without trees

I do love me some Beth, which is a good point (though against especially mNBs, they constantly break the beam)

It's pretty solid to incorporate the bear would require some major overhaul on my Build (why I asked about the tool tip)

Love the synergy.

Do you bring it to BGs?

That being said, if you can make the bear function as desired this is a very solid build. I've yet to see a magika warden build without a significant weakness either defensively or in the lack of killing power after covering all their defensive holes

You should come back to pc

SanTii.92

Regarding the build, you really want to work on that spell dmge, is far too low. Drop those regen glyphs, 2.5k is way overkill. Then I'd try to incorporate Infection anywhere, is usually at least 20% of my dps contribution, drop either Elemental Drain or Enchanted Growth. Also you might want to consider slotting dmge poisons on your front bar, the enchant from the master's staff is pretty bad. I'd run in it's place nirn maelstrom if you got that tho.

One other thing, you are running riposte with an ice staff, which is kinda redundant, since both apply minor maim.

Lexxypwns

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

What's your tool tip for enchanted growth?

I like the build, have done something similar. I do suspect that it is weak against defile. Your burst heal is enchanted growth, with your stats I suspect it's has a modest tool tip. Without trees, I've found that builds with defile can be very difficult to beat.

It's definitely a strong build, I'd take it to duels and would expect to win the vast majority, with maybe mag NBs, and a few Templar builds giving the hardest time

Enchanted Growth heals for about 7k. Pollen for 10k

Defile definitely was a bit of an issue at first, which is why I eventually settled on Malubeth to counteract it somewhat. With that, Trellis and Pollen, you can easily survive without trees

I do love me some Beth, which is a good point (though against especially mNBs, they constantly break the beam)

It's pretty solid to incorporate the bear would require some major overhaul on my Build (why I asked about the tool tip)

Love the synergy.

Do you bring it to BGs?

That being said, if you can make the bear function as desired this is a very solid build. I've yet to see a magika warden build without a significant weakness either defensively or in the lack of killing power after covering all their defensive holes

You should come back to pc

My PC is a potato and my wife plays Xbox

Plus, you know how much farming of gear I'd have to do? Probably at least 3 months

Tryxus

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Regarding the build, you really want to work on that spell dmge, is far too low. Drop those regen glyphs, 2.5k is way overkill. Then I'd try to incorporate Infection anywhere, is usually at least 20% of my dps contribution, drop either Elemental Drain or Enchanted Growth. Also you might want to consider slotting dmge poisons on your front bar, the enchant from the master's staff is pretty bad. I'd run in it's place nirn maelstrom if you got that tho.

One other thing, you are running riposte with an ice staff, which is kinda redundant, since both apply minor maim.

Some good points there

I actually think the Warden can get away with that low Spell Damage, since the class is quite a heavy hitter. So I prefer to increase my Regen instead, as well as using several skills that help me manage my Magicka because this build requires a lot of Magicka. Besides, the Master Staff has been updated with the CwC patch, so I can put a Berserker glyph on it to buff my Spell Damage like that (and maybe change the trait to Infused or Nirnhoned).

Fetcher Infection is a skill that I've been trying to squeeze onto my front bar, because it's a very powerful DoT (not rlly tho). I guess I could drop Elemental Drain, since one of my key skills (Clench, due to the Master Staff update) has been made cheaper. I'll definitely try that out again with this patch.

Enchanted Growth is smth I wouldn't get rid of for 2 reasons: it's a strong on-demand heal and it can be used to heal the Bear. Which is very important especially when the bear is on cooldown.

Ice Staff does apply Minor Maim through Chilled (4 secs I think?) so yeah, the debuff is redundant. But the reason I'm using an Ice Staff is for the snares and roots it provides, with the single target Frost Clench root for this build specifically. Slowing down a target or rooting it makes it a bit easier for the bear to reach it plus it works really well with Deep Fissure too.

Edit: yeah, dropping Elemental Drain for Fetcher Infection works really well so I might actually swap it. I am gonna change my Ice Staff's trait first and see how that works out with both skills.

Also made a small update to the Champion Point spread due to the cap being raised with CwC.

VexingArcanist

Curious if you plan to drop sword/shield on the backbar once Summerset lands and staves will have 2 piece set bonus.

Tryxus

VexingArcanist wrote: »

Curious if you plan to drop sword/shield on the backbar once Summerset lands and staves will have 2 piece set bonus.

I could run a Resto Staff on the backbar and add tri-stat glyphs on my armor instead for some extra Stamina but I'm not using any Resto Staff skills, preferring to rely on the Warden heals. So I'd rather have some extra defense while waiting for Corrupting Pollen to go off, as well as having a way to recharge my Stamina

I'm going to wait with deciding what to run on the backbar until the EU character copy on the PTS. So far, I've only been looking at ways to add a hard CC to the build (and I've found smth really interesting... )

VexingArcanist

Tryxus wrote: »

VexingArcanist wrote: »

Curious if you plan to drop sword/shield on the backbar once Summerset lands and staves will have 2 piece set bonus.

I could run a Resto Staff on the backbar and add tri-stat glyphs on my armor instead for some extra Stamina but I'm not using any Resto Staff skills, preferring to rely on the Warden heals. So I'd rather have some extra defense while waiting for Corrupting Pollen to go off, as well as having a way to recharge my Stamina

I'm going to wait with deciding what to run on the backbar until the EU character copy on the PTS. So far, I've only been looking at ways to add a hard CC to the build (and I've found smth really interesting... )

Most of the resto passives work simply off having a resto staff equipped. If you are using shield passives though it's definetly a toss up.

Jedaii_Knight

I hadn't played since early launch. I picked up Morrowind yesterday and saw that Warden had a pet build. I've always been a huge fan of pet classes from Wow to Diablo. So I am looking forward to running your build. I've never cared for what class is considered the most popular or powerful but to play how I enjoy and than just do my best in PVE and PVP.

So a humble Thank You for your guide. I should be off to a good start with the path you've provided.

Tryxus

I'm back with this build Still a work in progress, trying to update for Summerset

Jedaii_Knight wrote: »

I hadn't played since early launch. I picked up Morrowind yesterday and saw that Warden had a pet build. I've always been a huge fan of pet classes from Wow to Diablo. So I am looking forward to running your build. I've never cared for what class is considered the most popular or powerful but to play how I enjoy and than just do my best in PVE and PVP.

So a humble Thank You for your guide. I should be off to a good start with the path you've provided.

Bit late, but... You're welcome