when to start jesus beaming?

Danksta

At what health percentage should I start executing on my magplar? If it matters I'm asking from a PvE perspective.

Sotha_Sil

Beam at 100%! beam is love, beam is life.

WillhelmBlack

Absotutley full health. Never stop.

Brrrofski

If you're an average PvP zergling, instantly on sight.

In Pve, somewhere around 20% is when I notice most using it. Keeping up dots of course. At like less than 10% I think it's straight beam spam.

scipionumatia

never, unless you wanna catch this shield bash lol

for pve, last I heard was around 20-25%. been a while though, think at least a patch since I last played my magplar

Danksta

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Beam at 100%! beam is love, beam is life.

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Absotutley full health. Never stop.

Thanks guys, but I'm not that kind of Templar.

Danksta

Ok so it seems I've executing a bit early, thanks for the responses.

Drdeath20

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

Danksta

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

I'm aware that magplar dps is at/near the bottom of the dps food chain. I just hate playing mag sorc, it's just so boring. Plus my dps on my magplar isn't too far behind on my mag sorc. I'm getting about 32k with fire wall on my magplar and only 35k on my sorc with lightning wall.

Drdeath20

Danksta wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

I'm aware that magplar dps is at/near the bottom of the dps food chain. I just hate playing mag sorc, it's just so boring. Plus my dps on my magplar isn't too far behind on my mag sorc. I'm getting about 32k with fire wall on my magplar and only 35k on my sorc with lightning wall.

In pve its not such a huge difference between classes. Anyways jesus beam is not worth slotting in pve. You should only slot 1 channel (sweeps) and a bunch of DoT's to increase dps.

In pvp (where jesus beam is more usefull) sorcs are light years ahead of every other class. I get it, that easy mode gets boring but magplars just cant keep up.

Destruent

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

I'm aware that magplar dps is at/near the bottom of the dps food chain. I just hate playing mag sorc, it's just so boring. Plus my dps on my magplar isn't too far behind on my mag sorc. I'm getting about 32k with fire wall on my magplar and only 35k on my sorc with lightning wall.

In pve its not such a huge difference between classes. Anyways jesus beam is not worth slotting in pve. You should only slot 1 channel (sweeps) and a bunch of DoT's to increase dps.

In pvp (where jesus beam is more usefull) sorcs are light years ahead of every other class. I get it, that easy mode gets boring but magplars just cant keep up.

pvp-wise magplar feels fine imo....

for pve radiant is a slight dps-increase (whatelse to use instead?)

Mazbt

I start around 30%

Drdeath20

Destruent wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

I'm aware that magplar dps is at/near the bottom of the dps food chain. I just hate playing mag sorc, it's just so boring. Plus my dps on my magplar isn't too far behind on my mag sorc. I'm getting about 32k with fire wall on my magplar and only 35k on my sorc with lightning wall.

In pve its not such a huge difference between classes. Anyways jesus beam is not worth slotting in pve. You should only slot 1 channel (sweeps) and a bunch of DoT's to increase dps.

In pvp (where jesus beam is more usefull) sorcs are light years ahead of every other class. I get it, that easy mode gets boring but magplars just cant keep up.

pvp-wise magplar feels fine imo....

for pve radiant is a slight dps-increase (whatelse to use instead?)

I run purifying light instead. It works better in a rotation.

Rune, ritual of ret, purifying light, reflective light, blazing spear, sweeps, sweeps.

Repeat.

Jesus beam is a net loss of dps

Drdeath20

Pvp magplar is only top end competitive with a gimmiky build

Destruent

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

I'm aware that magplar dps is at/near the bottom of the dps food chain. I just hate playing mag sorc, it's just so boring. Plus my dps on my magplar isn't too far behind on my mag sorc. I'm getting about 32k with fire wall on my magplar and only 35k on my sorc with lightning wall.

In pve its not such a huge difference between classes. Anyways jesus beam is not worth slotting in pve. You should only slot 1 channel (sweeps) and a bunch of DoT's to increase dps.

In pvp (where jesus beam is more usefull) sorcs are light years ahead of every other class. I get it, that easy mode gets boring but magplars just cant keep up.

pvp-wise magplar feels fine imo....

for pve radiant is a slight dps-increase (whatelse to use instead?)

I run purifying light instead. It works better in a rotation.

Rune, ritual of ret, purifying light, reflective light, blazing spear, sweeps, sweeps.

Repeat.

Jesus beam is a net loss of dps

ritual of retribution seems like a dps-loss for me single-target-wise.

wall of elemets, blazing spear, rearming trap, vamps bane, purifying light as dots, sweeps/radiant as spammable.

Mazbt

In execute stages in trials jesus beam is definitely an increase in dps. Like for mage or Rakhat. It's only a dps loss from my experience if all you do is jesus beam and dots from 100%. start beaming around 30% or under, and at around 5% just beam.

Giraffon

I keep healing as my primary focus, but if everyone is holding their own, I'll start spamming it when the boss looks to be around 20% health.

Drdeath20

Destruent wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

I'm aware that magplar dps is at/near the bottom of the dps food chain. I just hate playing mag sorc, it's just so boring. Plus my dps on my magplar isn't too far behind on my mag sorc. I'm getting about 32k with fire wall on my magplar and only 35k on my sorc with lightning wall.

In pve its not such a huge difference between classes. Anyways jesus beam is not worth slotting in pve. You should only slot 1 channel (sweeps) and a bunch of DoT's to increase dps.

In pvp (where jesus beam is more usefull) sorcs are light years ahead of every other class. I get it, that easy mode gets boring but magplars just cant keep up.

pvp-wise magplar feels fine imo....

for pve radiant is a slight dps-increase (whatelse to use instead?)

I run purifying light instead. It works better in a rotation.

Rune, ritual of ret, purifying light, reflective light, blazing spear, sweeps, sweeps.

Repeat.

Jesus beam is a net loss of dps

ritual of retribution seems like a dps-loss for me single-target-wise.

wall of elemets, blazing spear, rearming trap, vamps bane, purifying light as dots, sweeps/radiant as spammable.

Ritual of ret is for group utility in pvp as well as can be used while duel weilding.

U just named 7 skills that u slot, leaving only 3 spots available. Inner light should be on both bars, repentance and templars need the rune on 1 bar to keep up with recovery.

Jesus beam is better than sweeps after boss is at 40% health for pure damage but sweeps will keep u alive and deal damage

Danksta

Destruent wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

I'm aware that magplar dps is at/near the bottom of the dps food chain. I just hate playing mag sorc, it's just so boring. Plus my dps on my magplar isn't too far behind on my mag sorc. I'm getting about 32k with fire wall on my magplar and only 35k on my sorc with lightning wall.

In pve its not such a huge difference between classes. Anyways jesus beam is not worth slotting in pve. You should only slot 1 channel (sweeps) and a bunch of DoT's to increase dps.

In pvp (where jesus beam is more usefull) sorcs are light years ahead of every other class. I get it, that easy mode gets boring but magplars just cant keep up.

pvp-wise magplar feels fine imo....

for pve radiant is a slight dps-increase (whatelse to use instead?)

I run purifying light instead. It works better in a rotation.

Rune, ritual of ret, purifying light, reflective light, blazing spear, sweeps, sweeps.

Repeat.

Jesus beam is a net loss of dps

ritual of retribution seems like a dps-loss for me single-target-wise.

wall of elemets, blazing spear, rearming trap, vamps bane, purifying light as dots, sweeps/radiant as spammable.

That's how my bars are set up except I run Channeled Focus instead of trap, with Inner Light double barred. I should try trap and see how that works out.

Liofa

Most Templars in Cyrodiil uses it at 100% . They must know something I guess . Yeah , 100% should be right .

Drdeath20

Liofa wrote: »

Most Templars in Cyrodiil uses it at 100% . They must know something I guess . Yeah , 100% should be right .

Every scenario is different. There a many times that it is wise to use the beam when targets are not at low health.

A roll dodger heading towards a cliff, a big group battle, a out numbered dragon knight reflecting all your ranged attacks back at you....etc...etc..

Thogard

Wait until he's at 20%, and then beam him. This is really effective because you'll actually beam the person standing next to him who's at 100% health, which is what we actually wanted to do the whole time.

Joy_Division

Before the excute scaling got busted and not fixed, RD out DPS spammables at roughly 35% (so no more jabs after that point).

Dots are more complicated. Generally wall of elements is almost always worth keeping up as long as the boss lives long enough to take all the damage ticks. Reflective light stop somewhere below 20% but I don't remember exactly.

Illurian

So many differing responses

Might have helped to state in the OP if you were talking about PvP or PvE and whether you are a dps or healer.

Judging from your responses you are talking about a PvE dps magplar, and I can't comment on that. As a healer I usually start with Jesus beam spam at just under 30%.

mocap

PvE at 30%, however, a real OMGWTF damage starts at 25%

Destruent

mocap wrote: »

PvE at 30%, however, a real OMGWTF damage starts at 25%

Tbh, over 25% it's not worth using and the "OMGWTF" damage is a thing of the past and didn't happen since morrowind.
When killers blade crits for ~80k your 60k radiant crits (at best) are just low...

Danksta

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Illurian wrote: »

So many differing responses

Might have helped to state in the OP if you were talking about PvP or PvE and whether you are a dps or healer.

Judging from your responses you are talking about a PvE dps magplar, and I can't comment on that. As a healer I usually start with Jesus beam spam at just under 30%.

Am I the only one that can see PvE mentioned in the OP?

Izaki

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Every scenario is different. Really depends on your build and your fight scenario. Honestly if you feel that every other attack is just gonna miss then some damage is better than wasting magicka.

Sometimes i beam people at 100% health bcz we all know that flares rarely land. This causes my skoria to proc and then it puts my opponent on the defensive. Jesus beam has been broken anyways. Im only getting 2k tics on Guys with less than 20% health and my spell damage is buffed to 6200.

Your better off giving up on dealing any damage with a templar and just rerolling a sorc and going easy mode.

I'm aware that magplar dps is at/near the bottom of the dps food chain. I just hate playing mag sorc, it's just so boring. Plus my dps on my magplar isn't too far behind on my mag sorc. I'm getting about 32k with fire wall on my magplar and only 35k on my sorc with lightning wall.

In pve its not such a huge difference between classes. Anyways jesus beam is not worth slotting in pve. You should only slot 1 channel (sweeps) and a bunch of DoT's to increase dps.

In pvp (where jesus beam is more usefull) sorcs are light years ahead of every other class. I get it, that easy mode gets boring but magplars just cant keep up.

LOL

Izaki

Its funny how the OP specifically mentioned PvE and yet everyone is on about PvP. Learn to read dudes.

DeHei

Danksta wrote: »

At what health percentage should I start executing on my magplar? If it matters I'm asking from a PvE perspective.

With 15% you can start to use it together with placing all dots. Under 10% you should start to do a mix with lesser dots and beam. Under 5% you should spam this skill with light attacks between only.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

The tests I have seen suggest you want to start putting beam into your rotation in place of sweeps around 27-28% and by 7-8% you should just be spamming it.