"We Hate You Nightblades" - Season 3 Episode 1

brandonv516

@Krayzie

The "H" key doesn't exist on any console platform ever created by man

Did you even read what I was responding to or are you just here to be witty?

I replied to someone saying that their Agony doesn't bug enemies for them when they use their H key. I said it must be a console thing so I obviously was talking about my H key...just wow.

Krayzie

brandonv516 wrote: »

@Krayzie

The "H" key doesn't exist on any console platform ever created by man

Did you even read what I was responding to or are you just here to be witty?

I replied to someone saying that their Agony doesn't bug enemies for them when they use their H key. I said it must be a console thing so I obviously was talking about my H key...just wow.

Autumnhart

sabretalon wrote: »

On a positive note, it could have been worse!

You could be a Warden!!

Fair point.

Dionysus

From someone who quit magicka nightblade after two years of playing it:

One buff needed to make magnbs "strong" in some way, that plays into their class theme, is that Shadow Image needs to be usable without a target, 28+ meters, have a CRYSTAL CLEAR constant indicator of when it can be used and when you are in and out of range to use it, and have absolutely no stuttering programming or complications for making you instantly, reliably teleport 100% of the time. Period.

Make the cost increase rapidly with multiple uses to compensate, if needed. But getting in and dealing high burst damage before getting out skillfully via this fashion, should be the vision for how this class works.

This needs to be the "wtf" in the nightblade arsenal; it should be the nightblade version of sorc shields, or templar Breath of Life, or old DK wings (RIP), that just pisses people off and makes the class unique.

Right now the only defense nightblade has are HoTs (which are poor compared to Templar heals), shields (which are poor compared to sorc's shield stack), or Cloak (which still unfortunately just doesn't work and leaves you still 1 foot away from a ***storm of AOEs, snares, Magelight, and the zerg hoard).

As for damage: our main source of burst damage, rather than being based on stealth mechanics or strategy, is based on FACETANKING someone long enough to put up ~SIX buffs and get in FIVE light attacks without leaving the opponent long enough for it to disappear. It's literally the opposite of sneaking. Riddle me that.

Magblade out. \m/(-_-)

Kalante

what baffles me the most is that it takes so much time to get a patch and we barely get any changes. I mean wtf is zos doing? iv'e played games with a skeleton crew such as dust 514 and they were dropping tons of changes left and right every month.

Chori

They should have made Mass Hysteria block-able. Incap cost increase by 30. Funnel health cost increase by 33% and slow it's projectile speed by 50% along with Crippling Grasp, and increase the hits you need in order to proc the spectral bow by 7 hits while keeping it dodgeable and blockable as well.

To add on this, ambush should deal less damage and the empower should be only available if used from stealth.

AND TO ADD ON TOP OF THIS, Soul Tether should only stun 1 person.

Fin

Feanor

For my part I'm waiting for season 8 in agony.

mb10

Feanor wrote: »

For my part I'm waiting for season 8 in agony.

Ah I can only imagine the state of NBs by then.
Probably only the assassination skill line left, the other two will be long gone and soul harvest will cost 750 ultimate

Jawasa

Crying about agony change just shows that some players cry for crying. If i face a nb with agony i know it's gonna be an easy fight. You are allready starved for skill slots and u slot that skill? Hahahaha

smtdbplus

Did some nb kill Wrobel recently?

Palidon

I can understand making changes that fix skills that were not working as intended which by skimming thru the PTS notes ZOS did with many of the other class skill lines. Yes I agree the changes that are going to be implemented to some of the Nightblade skills was unwarranted. However, to complain to the deaf ears of ZOS about those changes is a waste of time. Nothing will be reversed. At this point, three options are open to any Nightblade player. Either look to ways to adapt your Nightblade character to their changes, roll a different class or just finally be fed up and find another game to play.

ccfeeling

Palidon wrote: »

I can understand making changes that fix skills that were not working as intended which by skimming thru the PTS notes ZOS did with many of the other class skill lines. Yes I agree the changes that are going to be implemented to some of the Nightblade skills was unwarranted. However, to complain to the deaf ears of ZOS about those changes is a waste of time. Nothing will be reversed. At this point, three options are open to any Nightblade player. Either look to ways to adapt your Nightblade character to their changes, roll a different class or just finally be fed up and find another game to play.

There is no choice in the market , I gotta wait ...
I just want to leave the hell , 5 light weaving is not funny

HairyFairy

ZOS_MikaS wrote: »

We have recently removed several comments that were considered bashing by our Community Rules. Please keep all discussion civil, respectful, and constructive.

Of course this post has nothing but moderators doing nothing.

Can a real ZOS employee say something of value?

Eyesinthedrk

Every patch night blades cry. It's happened for years now.

You still have the ability to go invis at will. You still have the most reliable gap closer in the game. You then get to use the cheapest and fastest regening ult in the game. If your target is still alive, you still have the most op stun in the game.

it's still the fastest bounty filled second only to kill enemy players. 90% of all emperors are stam blades or bomb blades. And now magblades are near the top of PVE DPS

So pardon me if I'm not shedding for the nightblades.

mb10

Eyesinthedrk wrote: »

Every patch night blades cry. It's happened for years now.

You still have the ability to go invis at will. You still have the most reliable gap closer in the game. You then get to use the cheapest and fastest regening ult in the game. If your target is still alive, you still have the most op stun in the game.

it's still the fastest bounty filled second only to kill enemy players. 90% of all emperors are stam blades or bomb blades. And now magblades are near the top of PVE DPS

So pardon me if I'm not shedding for the nightblades.

Invis at will...? Oh I must be imagining things when I see the cost is between 3000-3500 magicka and a dot on you takes you out of it.

Reliable gap closer? lol "reliable"

If your "target" is alive. Yes you forgot the S at the end of it. Not every fight is a 1v1

Basically: "Stop moaning, at least you still have a few skills left"

Please leave this thread and close the door on the way out.

Eyesinthedrk

Yes, at will, like you push a button and you're gone. Even if you're in the middle of being hit by a beam attack. Regardless of proximity. Try going invis in a fight with any other class.

Yes, most reliable gap closer. Try using toppling charge or crit rush where anything other than a perfectly level and unblemished surface leaves you popping off like Michael j fox on a sugar rush. Or try it on a sorc, they don't have one.

NBs are still going to be the fasted class bounty filled and they are still going to be emp more than the other 4 classes combined.

I'm sorry if I ruined your "were slightly less OP" pitty party.

KingJ

Eyesinthedrk wrote: »

Yes, at will, like you push a button and you're gone. Even if you're in the middle of being hit by a beam attack. Regardless of proximity. Try going invis in a fight with any other class.

Yes, most reliable gap closer. Try using toppling charge or crit rush where anything other than a perfectly level and unblemished surface leaves you popping off like Michael j fox on a sugar rush. Or try it on a sorc, they don't have one.

NBs are still going to be the fasted class bounty filled and they are still going to be emp more than the other 4 classes combined.

I'm sorry if I ruined your "were slightly less OP" pitty party.

Magelight,detect pots,Any AOE,flare, Toppling charge,Sweeps,flare,POLT,Curse all those things break cloak random Dots and abilities still break cloak.Going invisable at well yea they can if they have the magic and if the enemy doesn't use one of the 20+ counters.Other classes can go invisible invisibility pots work great try them.

You still can't ambush up hills or surfaces I can with crit rush and toppling charge.I remember when I was gap closed by a templar on arruis lumber while I was near the tree on the hill overlooking the stairs and wall.Stam sorc can use crit rush.No stamplar use toppling majority of stam classes use crit rush.Not NB fault Zos can't code.

Only reason NB can make more AP than other classes because of VD and Destro ultimate neither of those are class abilities.There way more magblade emp than stamNB.Plus I'm sure there been more DK,Sorc,Temp emps but no one can prove that so unless you have numbers to back up your statement its just a opinion.

You know why its easier to kill a NB compared to any other class because they are the squishy class in the game and there one defensive ability cloak is so easily broken it easy as hell to kill a bad NB compared to a bad player on any other class/spec.

Feanor

KingJ wrote: »

There way more magblade emp than NB.

Yea. Makes absolute sense.

KingJ

Feanor wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

There way more magblade emp than NB.

Yea. Makes absolute sense.

Lmao I thought I said Stamblade @Feanor brain fart.

Devilhand

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

As a nightblade main the changes are fine..... expect manifestation of terror becoming viable again.

Yea... A TRAP that your enemy can actually see where it is.
Just no...

Devilhand

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Overreact much? Seriously, you are ridiculous.

btw, the skill actually looks pretty good. Nbs usually overheal anyways.

That's a very strong Hot if you can't tell.

Sure... The higher it is the faster you DIE.

SanTii.92

Devilhand wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Overreact much? Seriously, you are ridiculous.

btw, the skill actually looks pretty good. Nbs usually overheal anyways.

That's a very strong Hot if you can't tell.

Sure... The higher it is the faster you DIE.

yeah, if you missplay you should die. Look, this post is ridiculous, both stam and mag nightblades are currently on prime position for either pve and pvp alike, and nothing will change after the patch. "We hate you nightblades" Sure thing...

Devilhand

Skander wrote: »

Cast it+ cloak= profit

Because cloak is reliable... Most unreliable skill since they removed the purge of it.
True gap closers "dont" break it (just get you near the NB, so you just cast an AOe and pop him up), but the rest of the funny skills that breaks it havent been fixed.

Just no...

I rather have them fix cloak and all the broken skills out there, instead of adding new *** to take care of

chaserstorm16909

If I kill myself with this ability do I get AP?

Wreuntzylla

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Magblades in PvP, especially as DW, already have a hard time as is. This just makes it worse.
...

Magblades are the only ones that I worry about 1v1. What am I doing wrong?!?!?!

Yolokin_Swagonborn

The problem with fear, is, and will always be that it is much harder to break than other CC's. Unless you are hardwired to the server, getting feared is a guaranteed free hit (or two) from a NB, while your character struggles in molasses to break the fear. This is a death guarantee in light armor from a good NB. Fix that and the skill is fine. Yes, its annoying, but every class needs powerful skills. This nerf doesn't make fear less powerful, it just makes it less useful in outnumbered situations, which means it's another zerg buff.

NO MORE NERFS

NO MORE BUFFS FOR ZERGS

russelmmendoza

just facking remove the nb in the game,

why keep them when your gonna nerfed them to death.

and keep making magicka buffs.

then call the game, EMO

ELDER MAGICKA ONLINE

Chronicburn

russelmmendoza wrote: »

just facking remove the nb in the game,

why keep them when your gonna nerfed them to death.

and keep making magicka buffs.

then call the game, EMO

ELDER MAGICKA ONLINE

On the right track ... these devs got a serious hard thing for destroying the class

Mondini

Chelo wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Shazah wrote: »

Zenimax should know their nerfs are buffing zergs and destroying solo + smallscale playstyle in cyrodiil. I think they don't really care or they are happy of the current state of pvp.
The game mechanics and their counters has been heavily simplified already, and we have even more undodgeables skills and no counters added in patchnote of update 16 today. Ï dont understand the logic behind that.

1 less target feared is hardly the end of the world.

Clearly dont play a magblade, that 1 extra target is the difference between life and death in so many situations and every magblade will say the same

stick to your shield stacking

''every MagBlade will say the same'', honestly its not a big deal... And if the skill cap of MagBlade goes higher, It makes me feel more special =D Who are you anyway? I dont remember your name In Game?

And also all of you people need to ''Git Gud'', and if you have something to say to me, say it with your fist. Feel free to duel me @Chelo In Game.

Its not a big deal... Was hopping for Grim Focus going back to 4 light attacks instead of 5 and Syphoning Attacks to restore magicka on hit but whatever...

This is one of the cringiest posts i've seen in a while.

max_only

Heroeric1337 wrote: »

This is basically just a way ZOS is telling us we can literally go kill ourselves now lol

Sheeeee-it.