Infused or Divines on big body pieces?

Chelister

I'm 570CP DW Magsorc. Running Spinners (jeweler and weapons), War Maiden (body parts) and Infernal Guardian
I only PVP with this set up

geonsocal

hi...what mundus are you using?

The_Protagonist

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

Chelister

geonsocal wrote: »

hi...what mundus are you using?

Hey) I'm using the max magicka one.

FriedEggSandwich

7 impen for pvp

idk

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

Yes. Inpen unless your using shields and good at keeping them stacked.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I disagree with those saying 7 impen for a mSorc in PVP. I run infused big pieces, and I usually put at least 2 tri glyphs on them. Impen is definitely important, but remember, Impen is useless when you have your shields up. If you are good with shields, you could arguably go 7 infused. On my sorc, I prefer infused on big, impen on small.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

I'm on #teamnoimpen but that aside, to answer your question, infused on big and divines on small. Divines has the same bonus regardless of size while infused will grant a larger bonus on bigger pieces.

Chelister

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead, impen wouldn't help much neither.
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

Because parrots. Rah! Impen is a must! Rah!

If you're a MagSorc or a MagPlar it's unnecessary.

Takes-No-Prisoner

OP is using Infernal, so they are using shields for sure. Traits boil down to preference. If I had the money I would go tri gylphs on big pieces infused. As a sorc you need the extra health/stamina.

I'm not a fan of Spinners, and don't understand why you're running War Maiden on a class that gets more benefits from Lightning Magic(cept Frag).

Olen_Mikko

Pvp = full impen.

Depending of your mundus stone (damage / crit), i'd go full divines.

I obny use infused on big pieces when i use triple enchant

Chelister

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

OP is using Infernal, so they are using shields for sure. Traits boil down to preference. If I had the money I would go tri gylphs on big pieces infused. As a sorc you need the extra health/stamina.

I'm not a fan of Spinners, and don't understand why you're running War Maiden on a class that gets more benefits from Lightning Magic(cept Frag).

I'm DW MagSorc. I operate on burst damage, that's curse + frag, while fury is on. War maiden really boost the frag and curse combo, very difficult to survive perfect combo. Otherwise, it's my personal preference, I was tired of pets

THEDKEXPERIENCE

If you're gonna go full DPS don't use Impen. It's like building a NASCAR and using snow tires.

FriedEggSandwich

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

All due respect, but I don't believe you.

Takes-No-Prisoner

Chelister wrote: »

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

OP is using Infernal, so they are using shields for sure. Traits boil down to preference. If I had the money I would go tri gylphs on big pieces infused. As a sorc you need the extra health/stamina.

I'm not a fan of Spinners, and don't understand why you're running War Maiden on a class that gets more benefits from Lightning Magic(cept Frag).

I'm DW MagSorc. I operate on burst damage, that's curse + frag, while fury is on. War maiden really boost the frag and curse combo, very difficult to survive perfect combo. Otherwise, it's my personal preference, I was tired of pets

I see what you're saying, that rotation I imagine must be very tight since it's DW. Knowing full well Crystal Frag can miss(Shuffle/Roll Dodge) and be mitigated on blocking targets, I went the Juliano's route. To each his own though.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

All due respect, but I don't believe you.

It's really not that hard. You just hit a button every 5-6 seconds.

Takes-No-Prisoner

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

All due respect, but I don't believe you.

You can be ganked with shields off and survive without Impen. It's all in your hand dexterity to CC break faster then they can burst.

Chelister

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

All due respect, but I don't believe you.

It's ok

Betsararie

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

nope, you want to run infused on the big pieces as a mag sorc (at least 2, possibly 3).

This will buff your magicka which will increase your shields. Shields are your only defense as a mag sorc (and they aren't affected by crit resist).

Personally am running 4 impen 3 infused and it's working very well for me. You can switch between 5 impen 2 infused depending on your preference.

My resistances also tick to 20k each buffed so I am very tanky, yet still with high damage. Also am sitting at 22k health front bar 23k back in cp, without the use of tri glyphs. I find this is more than enough.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

All due respect, but I don't believe you.

You can be ganked with shields off and survive without Impen. It's all in your hand dexterity to CC break faster then they can burst.

This.

Where is this mysterious army of unstoppable horse gankers? When someone tried it on me they get nothing besides a vapor trail from my 606060 mount with 2% wind runner bonus.

Even if it were to happen, it's just heal-shield-heal-shield-heal until they are out of resources. Since I'm not running impen and use a max attributes build when they get to 0 I'm still at 10-20k magic left and (hey look) I now have a soul assault ready because my heals and shield just provided the fewer than 100 ultimate points I needed for it. And now ... Mr Horse Ganker in impen ... you're dead.

But sure ... if you happen to catch me playing my lute while I'm grabbing a beer you'll probably one shot me. I'll live.

Takes-No-Prisoner

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

All due respect, but I don't believe you.

You can be ganked with shields off and survive without Impen. It's all in your hand dexterity to CC break faster then they can burst.

This.

Where is this mysterious army of unstoppable horse gankers? When someone tried it on me they get nothing besides a vapor trail from my 606060 mount with 2% wind runner bonus.

Even if it were to happen, it's just heal-shield-heal-shield-heal until they are out of resources. Since I'm not running impen and use a max attributes build when they get to 0 I'm still at 10-20k magic left and (hey look) I now have a soul assault ready because my heals and shield just provided the fewer than 100 ultimate points I needed for it. And now ... Mr Horse Ganker in impen ... you're dead.

But sure ... if you happen to catch me playing my lute while I'm grabbing a beer you'll probably one shot me. I'll live.

So, if they poison inject, or hit you with a DoT, they can actually drain the horses stamina while the DoT is on your toon. If you go into the animation where you guy falls off the horse-- this animation cannot be CC broken, and you can die from that since the get up animation is like 10 seconds. I ran into this situation a handful of times, but not everyone knows that.

It's better to dismount if your horse is low on stamina, then get caught in that.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

All due respect, but I don't believe you.

You can be ganked with shields off and survive without Impen. It's all in your hand dexterity to CC break faster then they can burst.

This.

Where is this mysterious army of unstoppable horse gankers? When someone tried it on me they get nothing besides a vapor trail from my 606060 mount with 2% wind runner bonus.

Even if it were to happen, it's just heal-shield-heal-shield-heal until they are out of resources. Since I'm not running impen and use a max attributes build when they get to 0 I'm still at 10-20k magic left and (hey look) I now have a soul assault ready because my heals and shield just provided the fewer than 100 ultimate points I needed for it. And now ... Mr Horse Ganker in impen ... you're dead.

But sure ... if you happen to catch me playing my lute while I'm grabbing a beer you'll probably one shot me. I'll live.

So, if they poison inject, or hit you with a DoT, they can actually drain the horses stamina while the DoT is on your toon. If you go into the animation where you guy falls off the horse-- this animation cannot be CC broken, and you can die from that since the get up animation is like 10 seconds. I ran into this situation a handful of times, but not everyone knows that.

It's better to dismount if your horse is low on stamina, then get caught in that.

Great point. Usually I'm way off in the distance but if push comes to shove it's me getting off my horse, not someone pulling me off.

Secondary note: Lightning and Resto staves make for great horse catchers.

SoLooney

if youre brave, then go full divines or divine small infused large, but you should def have some pieces at least impen

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Don't forget that you can get crit resist from CP.

idk

Nvm

Beardimus

Very surprised people are saying full Impen on a MagSorc, each to their own I guess but I agree OP if wards are down ur dead so.....

Depending on Mundus, all divines can be better but with mage you would get more magika infused on big pieces

geonsocal

I'm enjoying impregnable armor on my mag sorc right now...although crit damage has all around been lowered in cyrodiil, it's something I don't need to worry much about...

currently using spinners (5 pc on SnB) and grothdar - but, thinking of changing out grothdar for mighty chudan...

keeping up shields 24/7 is a lot of work

Brutusmax1mus

Chelister wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Neither, Impen is what you should be looking for. Otherwise in Divines you are a glass cannon and you should only go infused if you are considering Hakeijo enchants.

I don't know why everyone are rooting for impen for Magsorc. My shields are 100% uptime, otherwise I would be dead. The only part where impen would help is when my shields are down, it's 2/3 seconds deal, I wouldn't want to sacrifice 7 trait for those 2/3 seconds. I'm more of a risk taker
And yes, I'm looking for a glass canon playstyle)

If you want glass cannon you should still do 3 infused, head chest legs, and 4 divine. Run apprentice instead of mac magicka mundus for sure.

Brutusmax1mus

also, you're duel wield? How do you sustain under a by pressure at all?

agingerinohio

I prefer infused with prismatic glyphs on big pieces. Divines on the rest.