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So, current state of the game?

Alexandrious
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Welp, I am starting to decide to come back, with or without my gf playing, since things happened with XIV, theirs really no other good MMO coming out anytime soon save for maybe Pantheon which is built for the golden age hardcore player, and the highly possible scam Ashes of Creation. PSO2 id sure be playing it, but oh boy did SEGA screw up, as usual. And no, 70 percent english translation does not equate to an enjoyable 100 percent, no no no. Then the one mmo id drop everything for? Well, its also a Square Enix mmo, its partially developed alongside the most treasured man in all of Japan since the franchise is worshiped like God there. But will it see a release outside Japan and China? Probably not, unless the reason Yoshida FFXIVs main director/producer who is trying to find someone to take over for him, is doing so to go to that other mmo, to localize it for us, since he knows how to handle, us.

Anyway far off track. I been on and off ESO since well, its beta. When the game was a horribly, mutated, disfigured, ugly duckling, to what people now say its become a somewhat unmutated swan, save for maybe that third eyeball its got. I play a Dragon Knight, as a Tank usually. So gonna ask a few questions, separately, make it easier for people to answer really, yay one two and three!

1. Optimization gotten any better? When I have finished building my 7700k OC, 4366 Mhz G.Skill Tridentz 16GB Ram, 1080 GTX TI Asus Strix, Maximus Apex IX Mobo, 10G Asus Shielded Network Card with 960 Evo m.2s SSDs, am I still gonna lag in places even on 1920 by 1080? Am I gonna lag going 4k? Would I lag if I use that new 35 inch ultra curve G Sync monitor that Asus is coming out with around Christmas? Hell may not use that monitor and will use my 60 inch SUHD Samsung 4k TV. Dunno, have not decided yet, though playing a mmo from the comfort of my recliner on a 60 inch sounds reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyy good.

2. Class balancing in PVP still out the window? Or is it still messed up via Armor or other hilariously bad design?

3. Animation cancelling still a deciding factor in everything? Or was it nerfed any in some form or another? Animation Cancelling was what caused my gf to quit. Me? Eh, I learned to use it, created intricate macros to utilize it, felt cheap, felt flat, felt bad, but gotta adapt to what a game throws at ya.

4. How does that One Tamriel system work now? Is Silver and Gold just gone? How does it all work now regarding where to go and what to really do these days?

5. Is getting gear thru saving up gold and buying em more feasible now? Like if I had over 1M gold saved up, I could get a excellent set of equipment to be able to do things in? Or would I have to run constant dungeons to get that one piece I really really really need to complete a specialized set for Tank? For PVP? For DPS? etc.

6. Is Vampire and Werewolf still ultimately required for DK tank builds? Last time I had to go Vampire for my build.....god I hated that. Had to get a full suit of covering armor or a cosmetic for it, otherwise gf complained on my chars looks. Shes one to talk, she becomes a fur beasty whenever she hits the ult.

7. What is the current meta DK Tank builds now? Magicka? Stamina? Both?

8. Current Champion point maximum? Was it changed at all?

Yea thats all I got. Thanks for answering, thanks if you answer but answer in troll speak, thanks for answering if its just one or two words like lulz or Dis will be guud, or Getting popcorn. But generally thanks for taking the time to read this and post!
  • Tandor
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    All in the eye of the beholder.

    For example, for every player that tells you the performance has never been worse there will be another who will tell you performance remains as flawless as ever.

    For every player who tells you that One Tamriel ruined the game, there will be another player that tells you it saved the game. Of course, there will also be another player who tells you it didn't need saving in the first place!

    Short answer - as you already have the game it won't cost you to play it and find out for yourself!
  • TelvanniWizard
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    1. Optimization might be better, but still you´ll find lots of lag in Cyrodiil, and sometimes in other regions. It seems to me that now you´re using a quite powerfull machine (at least better than mine ;) ) so you shouldn´t have many problems.

    2. PvP is more or less balanced. You still see plenty of magsorcs.

    3. Animation cancelling is the same as always. But I don´t think it is neccesary nor mandatory for hard content.

    4. In One Tamriel you can just go to every region when you want. To do those regions main alliance quests you´ll need to end main quest to gain access to Caldwell´s silver and gold. Once you´ve completed silver you may start gold.

    5. If you´re rich enough you can buy everything.

    6. I´m afraid I don´t know. Never had a DK. But I think that they aren´t. There are plenty other ults (like weapons ones or the fighters guild one) that seem useful and powerful enough.

    7. Same as n.6. Sorry, don´t have DKs.

    8. I think it´s 630.

    Hope I could help. Sorry if I made mistakes. And sorry for the sure lenguage mistakes. English is not my natiive lenguage.

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  • freespirit
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    1. I run a slightly lesser set-up and the game runs flawlessly, however I am EU based I believe the NA server currently has more issues.

    2. I am not an expert PVP-er but I enjoy it and if you aren't aiming for the top any build you know and enjoy seems to work for me.

    3. Never got the hang of it, never felt the need too

    4. I suppose One Tamriel is the embodiment of "play the way you want".......... obviously you still have the Main story in your chosen Faction but after that really you can go whatever direction you wish. Ofc the Silver and Gold achievements are still there to be done but there are so many new areas(DLC's and Morrowind) if the idea of that grind doesn't appeal then go do something else, remember Craglorn had a re-vamp too.

    5.Unfortunately a lot of what is considered BiS gear wise, is only available through grind...... call me a maverick but I enjoy playing whatever I'm wearing! Am I the best, hell no BUT I have fun :)

    6. I would say no but others may disagree.

    7. No idea >:)

    8. Currently Max useable CP is 660.

    Hope this helps :)
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • emily3989
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    660
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  • Megabear
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    Better balance, more crashes/lag than before.
    Guide to making $$$ in Tamriel: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/370618/guide-to-making-gold-in-eso/p1?new=1
    Cost analysis for potential ESO players: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/367919/cost-analysis-for-brand-new-potential-pc-eso-players#latest
    Warden Bow Healer/DPS Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-bow-healerdps-hybrid/
    Warden "The Warladin" Healer/Tank Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-the-warladin-healertank-hybrid-build/
    Warden Stamina DPS Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-dps-build/
    Server - PC/NA
    Vhevet - (S) Night Blade/Female/Orsimer
    Ecaer - (M) Templar/Female/Breton
    Captain Beaster Bunny - (S) Warden/Male/Red Guard
    Ezaera - (M) Sorcerer/Female/Altmer
    Ecaeri - (M) Warden/Female/Argonian
    Dun-and-Dunmer - (M) Dragon Knight/Male/Dunmer
    What Can Go Wong - (S) Night Blade/Male/Bosmer
    Izaer - (M) Templar/Male/Breton
  • Olen_Mikko
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    I'd say give it a try. Lot of improvements, some stupid changes, unnecessary nerfs etc, but in overall, this game is much more enjoyable than it was before One tamriel
    NB enthusiastic:
    1. Woodhippie stamblade - DW hard-hitter / PvE
    2. Know-it-all elf Magblade - Healer / PvE & PvP
    3. Hate-them-all elf Magblade - Destrostaff AoE monster / PvE
    4. Cyrodiil-Refugee stamblade - Stamina Tank / PvE

    Go dominion or go home

    Nightblade-Hipster. I played Nightblade before it was cool - from 1.5 onwards.
  • Alexandrious
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    I guess another question to supplement the Economy question is. What can 2 Million gold buy you these days?
  • freespirit
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    Pretty much everything you need...........

    Unless you want to be a property mogul.......

    That's a whole other ball game :)
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • zaria
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    1. Optimization might be better, but still you´ll find lots of lag in Cyrodiil, and sometimes in other regions. It seems to me that now you´re using a quite powerfull machine (at least better than mine ;) ) so you shouldn´t have many problems.

    2. PvP is more or less balanced. You still see plenty of magsorcs.

    3. Animation cancelling is the same as always. But I don´t think it is neccesary nor mandatory for hard content.

    4. In One Tamriel you can just go to every region when you want. To do those regions main alliance quests you´ll need to end main quest to gain access to Caldwell´s silver and gold. Once you´ve completed silver you may start gold.

    5. If you´re rich enough you can buy everything.

    6. I´m afraid I don´t know. Never had a DK. But I think that they aren´t. There are plenty other ults (like weapons ones or the fighters guild one) that seem useful and powerful enough.

    7. Same as n.6. Sorry, don´t have DKs.

    8. I think it´s 630.

    Hope I could help. Sorry if I made mistakes. And sorry for the sure lenguage mistakes. English is not my natiive lenguage.

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    1 performance on high end pc is good, far better than on launch, during the pvp event I had no lag at all running in zerg on population locked campans. your setup is better than mine for gaming, watch your memory use however ESO can eat more than 8GB and cache helps.

    3 AC helps as add 2K dps, not needed unless you run veteran trials.
    4 this was an huge thing, you can quest or farm anywhere at any level, best thing ever,

    5 crafted and overland gear is good and can be bought, you want to be in an friendly guild for crafted.
    You might be able to get an 5% boost with other gear but balance has never been better.

    6 no. see above, AC is more important. Still way too many vampires for the 10% regen bonus.
    8 cp cap is 660, however you don't need more xp to reach cap.

    You can do anything with pretty much any build as long as its relevant, heavy armor bow magic DK don't work well :)
    Player skill is most important. But for some who pvp a lot its probably not an issue.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • KingYogi415
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    Yes ESO is amazing now.

    If you ever care about end game pvp I would ditch your fancy PC and play on console to escape the macro meta.
  • Alexandrious
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    Yes ESO is amazing now.

    If you ever care about end game pvp I would ditch your fancy PC and play on console to escape the macro meta.

    Macro Meta?
  • Alexandrious
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    freespirit wrote: »
    Pretty much everything you need...........

    Unless you want to be a property mogul.......

    That's a whole other ball game :)

    Property Mogul?
  • Megabear
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    Oh I forgot. Lots of botters and cheaters. Not sure how bad it was before but it's really bad right now.
    Guide to making $$$ in Tamriel: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/370618/guide-to-making-gold-in-eso/p1?new=1
    Cost analysis for potential ESO players: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/367919/cost-analysis-for-brand-new-potential-pc-eso-players#latest
    Warden Bow Healer/DPS Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-bow-healerdps-hybrid/
    Warden "The Warladin" Healer/Tank Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-the-warladin-healertank-hybrid-build/
    Warden Stamina DPS Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-dps-build/
    Server - PC/NA
    Vhevet - (S) Night Blade/Female/Orsimer
    Ecaer - (M) Templar/Female/Breton
    Captain Beaster Bunny - (S) Warden/Male/Red Guard
    Ezaera - (M) Sorcerer/Female/Altmer
    Ecaeri - (M) Warden/Female/Argonian
    Dun-and-Dunmer - (M) Dragon Knight/Male/Dunmer
    What Can Go Wong - (S) Night Blade/Male/Bosmer
    Izaer - (M) Templar/Male/Breton
  • Malic
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    The better question is do you have a better alternative? If you do could you post it? ESO combat is still pretty dam good. The RNG killed a lot of people the last year, they are addressing it finally with transmution but the damage has been done.

    Many in my guilds are here until a newer MMO drops to get in early when the PVP is good, like it used to be in ESO.

    Certainly if you already own the game and arent playing anything else no reason not to play ESO. ITs a good game.
  • freespirit
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    ESO now has housing.......

    Largely cosmetic fluff......

    No storage, not enough slots to fully decorate but hey you can have DPS Dummies :)

    There a ridiculous amount of properties ranging from free Inn Rooms to massive Manors, much gold can be frittered away without even trying!

    You can also craft your own furniture, by collecting plans/designs that drop much like motifs and by farming "special" materials that drop from any pre-existing crafting node(not a 100% chance but more than Nirncrux).

    Personally I have amassed a reasonably large collection of properties and trust me it really burns through gold!

    There are also Crown Store exclusive properties and with normal properties you can buy them fully furnished with crowns, with gold they are always unfurnished :)
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • Alexandrious
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    Malic wrote: »
    The better question is do you have a better alternative? If you do could you post it? ESO combat is still pretty dam good. The RNG killed a lot of people the last year, they are addressing it finally with transmution but the damage has been done.

    Many in my guilds are here until a newer MMO drops to get in early when the PVP is good, like it used to be in ESO.

    Certainly if you already own the game and arent playing anything else no reason not to play ESO. ITs a good game.

    Other than PSO2 with its lightning fast combat....but gotta deal with a average of 75 percent total english translation, their really is no alternative far as gameplay/combat is concerned. Least not for about 2 years.

    Transmutation?
  • Aurie
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    But will it see a release outside Japan and China? Probably not, unless the reason Yoshida FFXIVs main director/producer who is trying to find someone to take over for him, is doing so to go to that other mmo, to localize it for us, since he knows how to handle, us.

    Where did you see that Yoshi-P is looking to find someone to take over from him? That's a surprise.....link please if you have it !

  • freespirit
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    Transmutation coming soon.......

    The ability to change traits on your gear :)
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • Alexandrious
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    Aurelle1 wrote: »
    But will it see a release outside Japan and China? Probably not, unless the reason Yoshida FFXIVs main director/producer who is trying to find someone to take over for him, is doing so to go to that other mmo, to localize it for us, since he knows how to handle, us.

    Where did you see that Yoshi-P is looking to find someone to take over from him? That's a surprise.....link please if you have it !

    Id have to dig for it, I saw it in Lodestone somewhere, it was mentioned in one of his latest dev interviews or something that he is satisfied with the way XIV is going and now wants to work on another project so is looking for a replacement.
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Welp, I am starting to decide to come back, with or without my gf playing, since things happened with XIV, theirs really no other good MMO coming out anytime soon save for maybe Pantheon which is built for the golden age hardcore player, and the highly possible scam Ashes of Creation. PSO2 id sure be playing it, but oh boy did SEGA screw up, as usual. And no, 70 percent english translation does not equate to an enjoyable 100 percent, no no no. Then the one mmo id drop everything for? Well, its also a Square Enix mmo, its partially developed alongside the most treasured man in all of Japan since the franchise is worshiped like God there. But will it see a release outside Japan and China? Probably not, unless the reason Yoshida FFXIVs main director/producer who is trying to find someone to take over for him, is doing so to go to that other mmo, to localize it for us, since he knows how to handle, us.

    Anyway far off track. I been on and off ESO since well, its beta. When the game was a horribly, mutated, disfigured, ugly duckling, to what people now say its become a somewhat unmutated swan, save for maybe that third eyeball its got. I play a Dragon Knight, as a Tank usually. So gonna ask a few questions, separately, make it easier for people to answer really, yay one two and three!

    1. Optimization gotten any better? When I have finished building my 7700k OC, 4366 Mhz G.Skill Tridentz 16GB Ram, 1080 GTX TI Asus Strix, Maximus Apex IX Mobo, 10G Asus Shielded Network Card with 960 Evo m.2s SSDs, am I still gonna lag in places even on 1920 by 1080? Am I gonna lag going 4k? Would I lag if I use that new 35 inch ultra curve G Sync monitor that Asus is coming out with around Christmas? Hell may not use that monitor and will use my 60 inch SUHD Samsung 4k TV. Dunno, have not decided yet, though playing a mmo from the comfort of my recliner on a 60 inch sounds reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyy good.

    2. Class balancing in PVP still out the window? Or is it still messed up via Armor or other hilariously bad design?

    3. Animation cancelling still a deciding factor in everything? Or was it nerfed any in some form or another? Animation Cancelling was what caused my gf to quit. Me? Eh, I learned to use it, created intricate macros to utilize it, felt cheap, felt flat, felt bad, but gotta adapt to what a game throws at ya.

    4. How does that One Tamriel system work now? Is Silver and Gold just gone? How does it all work now regarding where to go and what to really do these days?

    5. Is getting gear thru saving up gold and buying em more feasible now? Like if I had over 1M gold saved up, I could get a excellent set of equipment to be able to do things in? Or would I have to run constant dungeons to get that one piece I really really really need to complete a specialized set for Tank? For PVP? For DPS? etc.

    6. Is Vampire and Werewolf still ultimately required for DK tank builds? Last time I had to go Vampire for my build.....god I hated that. Had to get a full suit of covering armor or a cosmetic for it, otherwise gf complained on my chars looks. Shes one to talk, she becomes a fur beasty whenever she hits the ult.

    7. What is the current meta DK Tank builds now? Magicka? Stamina? Both?

    8. Current Champion point maximum? Was it changed at all?

    Yea thats all I got. Thanks for answering, thanks if you answer but answer in troll speak, thanks for answering if its just one or two words like lulz or Dis will be guud, or Getting popcorn. But generally thanks for taking the time to read this and post!

    1. Optimization has not got better. Framerate? Generally. But the games core bottleneck is still in place. I wouldn't play this game without a intel CPU.

    2. PVP? Try the -rest- of the game.

    3. Yes. It's still in place, but it's a bit less of a thing now that sustain has been nerfed into the ground. Now, it's just heavy attacking. You build damage, then spam skills until your out then heavy attack a bunch. So it's much -easier- to get by now, but much more boring.

    4. Silver and gold is just gone. You can go to any place and start questing however you want. However, as you level up, you get drastically weaker, a failing of the current system.

    5. Honestly, your better off geting crafted or grinding for gear, but I was able to get a good tank set for my Warden for around 20 K total. Your milage may vary.

    6. Honestly? No, because even that's not going to save you. Your kind of -***-, just by virtue of being a tank. The sustain nerf really hit tanks. Now you'll be lucky to make a sustainable build.

    7. No idea.

    8. Also no idea.

  • Malic
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    Transmutation?

    Dont worry about a thing, no matter the state of the game youre probably going to find stuff you like and dont like.

    Its a AAA MMO, its got it all:crafting, PVP, dungeon crawls, PVE, storyline.

    If you cant find something to like in ESO, MMO's arent for you. Now if you specialize in something, as an example I PVP 75-80% of my time in this game, then there might be an issue because not one singular aspect of ESO is great.

    Now that out of the way, lets enjoy some music. RIP Walter Becker

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zroNDwNbtzg
  • Alexandrious
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    So far it seems Dragon Knight Tank builds is an enigma o.O
  • GawdSB
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    Boring.
  • Lord Xanhorn
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    End game is the same. There is no gear progression so there's a whole lot of things to do but no proper rewards that make them worth it.
    I'm kind of a small deal!
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    So far it seems Dragon Knight Tank builds is an enigma o.O

    That's because they've become simply overshadowed.

    The setup, is the same as it allways was, but generally speaking? Alot of theorycrafters have -left-.

    Though, if you wanted to buy the expac, Warden tank seems to have alot of resource regen and group support and self healing.
  • Alexandrious
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    Those Dwarven Crates I saw in the store, what do they give exactly? Also noticed a Summonable Banker and Merchant you can use when out in the world at any time? I bet those two get bought alot?
  • Alexandrious
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    So far it seems Dragon Knight Tank builds is an enigma o.O

    That's because they've become simply overshadowed.

    The setup, is the same as it allways was, but generally speaking? Alot of theorycrafters have -left-.

    Though, if you wanted to buy the expac, Warden tank seems to have alot of resource regen and group support and self healing.

    Warden Tank huh. Hmm...
  • f047ys3v3n
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    Welp, I am starting to decide to come back, with or without my gf playing, since things happened with XIV, theirs really no other good MMO coming out anytime soon save for maybe Pantheon which is built for the golden age hardcore player, and the highly possible scam Ashes of Creation. PSO2 id sure be playing it, but oh boy did SEGA screw up, as usual. And no, 70 percent english translation does not equate to an enjoyable 100 percent, no no no. Then the one mmo id drop everything for? Well, its also a Square Enix mmo, its partially developed alongside the most treasured man in all of Japan since the franchise is worshiped like God there. But will it see a release outside Japan and China? Probably not, unless the reason Yoshida FFXIVs main director/producer who is trying to find someone to take over for him, is doing so to go to that other mmo, to localize it for us, since he knows how to handle, us.

    Anyway far off track. I been on and off ESO since well, its beta. When the game was a horribly, mutated, disfigured, ugly duckling, to what people now say its become a somewhat unmutated swan, save for maybe that third eyeball its got. I play a Dragon Knight, as a Tank usually. So gonna ask a few questions, separately, make it easier for people to answer really, yay one two and three!

    1. Optimization gotten any better? When I have finished building my 7700k OC, 4366 Mhz G.Skill Tridentz 16GB Ram, 1080 GTX TI Asus Strix, Maximus Apex IX Mobo, 10G Asus Shielded Network Card with 960 Evo m.2s SSDs, am I still gonna lag in places even on 1920 by 1080? Am I gonna lag going 4k? Would I lag if I use that new 35 inch ultra curve G Sync monitor that Asus is coming out with around Christmas? Hell may not use that monitor and will use my 60 inch SUHD Samsung 4k TV. Dunno, have not decided yet, though playing a mmo from the comfort of my recliner on a 60 inch sounds reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyy good.

    God I hope you won't lag with that. I do fine with a much lesser rig.

    3. Class balancing in PVP still out the window? Or is it still messed up via Armor or other hilariously bad design?

    Whenever people say class balance in PVP I am not sure how to respond. PvP solo, PvP large group, PvP small group, Dueling? It is not all DK's anymore if that is what you want to know. Different classes and builds are better for different things, some skills and combinations are OP and some are weaksauce

    4. Animation cancelling still a deciding factor in everything? Or was it nerfed any in some form or another? Animation Cancelling was what caused my gf to quit. Me? Eh, I learned to use it, created intricate macros to utilize it, felt cheap, felt flat, felt bad, but gotta adapt to what a game throws at ya.

    This is much worse. Now there is a mix of light cancels and full heavies required in a rotation with a full heavy being 1.7 seconds but having a 2.2 second animation. It is very bad. Combat is very clunky as a result and if you are just .1 second shy on that full heavy you loose 5k damage, get no resources back. It is also relatively hard to learn. It is bad, probably more than half the raid community quit. Weekly leaderboards do not fill.


    5. How does that One Tamriel system work now? Is Silver and Gold just gone? How does it all work now regarding where to go and what to really do these days?

    One Tamriel is great. You can quest with a buddy at any level anywhere. You can do zones in whatever order you want as well. Basically it works by all content being max level and you being scaled up if you are not. The game should have been this way at launch. It would have done much better.

    6. Is getting gear thru saving up gold and buying em more feasible now? Like if I had over 1M gold saved up, I could get a excellent set of equipment to be able to do things in? Or would I have to run constant dungeons to get that one piece I really really really need to complete a specialized set for Tank? For PVP? For DPS? etc.

    I see gear as much flatter now. Many sets are very close to each other in performance. There is some more specialized gear in PVP and some group buff gears sets for raids that are the exception. A raid tank is in these exceptions though. You will be wearing group buff sets and will need to acquire them. Some of this is easy to acquire, others less so.

    6. Is Vampire and Werewolf still ultimately required for DK tank builds? Last time I had to go Vampire for my build.....god I hated that. Had to get a full suit of covering armor or a cosmetic for it, otherwise gf complained on my chars looks. Shes one to talk, she becomes a fur beasty whenever she hits the ult.

    No for PVE tanking. PVP seems to be mostly vampires in general.

    8. What is the current meta DK Tank builds now? Magicka? Stamina? Both?

    Watch the badasses videos for this. I don't know enough about tanking to be much help with how the specifically put together a build

    9. Current Champion point maximum? Was it changed at all?

    660 I think. I have 1,111 so I don't pay much attention. It has increased 30 every new content. They also just redid the whole thing and they are both far more front loaded and matter a little less than they did. They are so front loaded that the whole last 25 in something are worth I think 1%.


    Yea thats all I got. Thanks for answering, thanks if you answer but answer in troll speak, thanks for answering if its just one or two words like lulz or Dis will be guud, or Getting popcorn. But generally thanks for taking the time to read this and post!

    My advice, if you want to come back for PVP or to solo quest you might try a bit. Though you should know that third party cheat engine software is common in PVP, is frustrating, and ZOS doesn't seem to give a rats about this. If you are looking for endgame PVE don't bother as you will hate the combat, especially if you didn't like weaving before. You will also find tanking much harder as the resource management is actually challenging now. Maybe you dislike that, maybe it is an incentive, not sure. I think is is a pretty good solo game or game to sort of light duty quest with a friend or loved one in. ZOS does not seem to be able to actually manage an MMO though.
    Edited by f047ys3v3n on September 8, 2017 5:05AM
    I am mostly pleased with the current state of ESO. Please do continue to ban cheaters though and you guys have to find out who is duping gold and how because the economy is currently non-functional.
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    So far it seems Dragon Knight Tank builds is an enigma o.O

    That's because they've become simply overshadowed.

    The setup, is the same as it allways was, but generally speaking? Alot of theorycrafters have -left-.

    Though, if you wanted to buy the expac, Warden tank seems to have alot of resource regen and group support and self healing.

    Warden Tank huh. Hmm...

    Fair warning, leveling this thing is -painfull-.
  • Alexandrious
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    f047ys3v3n wrote: »
    Welp, I am starting to decide to come back, with or without my gf playing, since things happened with XIV, theirs really no other good MMO coming out anytime soon save for maybe Pantheon which is built for the golden age hardcore player, and the highly possible scam Ashes of Creation. PSO2 id sure be playing it, but oh boy did SEGA screw up, as usual. And no, 70 percent english translation does not equate to an enjoyable 100 percent, no no no. Then the one mmo id drop everything for? Well, its also a Square Enix mmo, its partially developed alongside the most treasured man in all of Japan since the franchise is worshiped like God there. But will it see a release outside Japan and China? Probably not, unless the reason Yoshida FFXIVs main director/producer who is trying to find someone to take over for him, is doing so to go to that other mmo, to localize it for us, since he knows how to handle, us.

    Anyway far off track. I been on and off ESO since well, its beta. When the game was a horribly, mutated, disfigured, ugly duckling, to what people now say its become a somewhat unmutated swan, save for maybe that third eyeball its got. I play a Dragon Knight, as a Tank usually. So gonna ask a few questions, separately, make it easier for people to answer really, yay one two and three!

    1. Optimization gotten any better? When I have finished building my 7700k OC, 4366 Mhz G.Skill Tridentz 16GB Ram, 1080 GTX TI Asus Strix, Maximus Apex IX Mobo, 10G Asus Shielded Network Card with 960 Evo m.2s SSDs, am I still gonna lag in places even on 1920 by 1080? Am I gonna lag going 4k? Would I lag if I use that new 35 inch ultra curve G Sync monitor that Asus is coming out with around Christmas? Hell may not use that monitor and will use my 60 inch SUHD Samsung 4k TV. Dunno, have not decided yet, though playing a mmo from the comfort of my recliner on a 60 inch sounds reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyy good.

    God I hope you won't lag with that. I do fine with a much lesser rig.

    3. Class balancing in PVP still out the window? Or is it still messed up via Armor or other hilariously bad design?

    Whenever people say class balance in PVP I am not sure how to respond. PvP solo, PvP large group, PvP small group, Dueling? It is not all DK's anymore if that is what you want to know. Different classes and builds are better for different things, some skills and combinations are OP and some are weaksauce

    4. Animation cancelling still a deciding factor in everything? Or was it nerfed any in some form or another? Animation Cancelling was what caused my gf to quit. Me? Eh, I learned to use it, created intricate macros to utilize it, felt cheap, felt flat, felt bad, but gotta adapt to what a game throws at ya.

    This is much worse. Now there is a mix of light cancels and full heavies required in a rotation with a full heavy being 1.7 seconds but having a 2.2 second animation. It is very bad. Combat is very clunky as a result and if you are just .1 second shy on that full heavy you loose 5k damage, get no resources back. It is also relatively hard to learn. It is bad, probably more than half the raid community quit. Weekly leaderboards do not fill.


    5. How does that One Tamriel system work now? Is Silver and Gold just gone? How does it all work now regarding where to go and what to really do these days?

    One Tamriel is great. You can quest with a buddy at any level anywhere. You can do zones in whatever order you want as well. Basically it works by all content being max level and you being scaled up if you are not. The game should have been this way at launch. It would have done much better.

    6. Is getting gear thru saving up gold and buying em more feasible now? Like if I had over 1M gold saved up, I could get a excellent set of equipment to be able to do things in? Or would I have to run constant dungeons to get that one piece I really really really need to complete a specialized set for Tank? For PVP? For DPS? etc.

    I see gear as much flatter now. Many sets are very close to each other in performance. There is some more specialized gear in PVP and some group buff gears sets for raids that are the exception. A raid tank is in these exceptions though. You will be wearing group buff sets and will need to acquire them. Some of this is easy to acquire, others less so.

    6. Is Vampire and Werewolf still ultimately required for DK tank builds? Last time I had to go Vampire for my build.....god I hated that. Had to get a full suit of covering armor or a cosmetic for it, otherwise gf complained on my chars looks. Shes one to talk, she becomes a fur beasty whenever she hits the ult.

    No for PVE tanking. PVP seems to be mostly vampires in general.

    8. What is the current meta DK Tank builds now? Magicka? Stamina? Both?

    Watch the badasses videos for this. I don't know enough about tanking to be much help with how the specifically put together a build

    9. Current Champion point maximum? Was it changed at all?

    660 I think. I have 1,111 so I don't pay much attention. It has increased 30 every new content. They also just redid the whole thing and they are both far more front loaded and matter a little less than they did. They are so front loaded that the whole last 25 in something are worth I think 1%.


    Yea thats all I got. Thanks for answering, thanks if you answer but answer in troll speak, thanks for answering if its just one or two words like lulz or Dis will be guud, or Getting popcorn. But generally thanks for taking the time to read this and post!

    My advice, if you want to come back for PVP or to solo quest you might try a bit. Though you should know that third party cheat engine software is common in PVP, is frustrating, and ZOS doesn't seem to give a rats about this. If you are looking for endgame PVE don't bother as you will hate the combat, especially if you didn't like weaving before. You will also find tanking much harder as the resource management is actually challenging now. Maybe you dislike that, maybe it is an incentive, not sure. I think is is a pretty good solo game or game to sort of light duty quest with a friend or loved one in. ZOS does not seem to be able to actually manage an MMO though.

    So animation cancelling is still a really big thing, and PVE Endgame raiding is...that bad? Far different answers than what the others gave but you gave much greater descriptions that I gotta believe it.

    Huh.......I see.....really kinda a bummer then. Hmm -_-...
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