I didn't even know there is a seventh legion bug. Pls don't tell us how to exploit it, but will I trigger it by just using the set or does it require some special setup? I play EU-PC btw., just posting here in the hope of getting a higher chance of catching a devs attention... That meta should be pretty weak against heavy dot builds, unless using this magma scale set (that's the name? I mean this 2500 impen set). If you use that your damage probably suffers Never played magicka in pvp.(...)
The build is not bad with 71 points into befoul and malubeth you get 45% more healing couple this with major mending, 18% from dk passives, vigor, rally and 7th legion bug and you have insanely strong heals on a permablock build that can use
a monster set + 2 other 5pc sets even on the 2h bar (all hail 7th legion exploit)
Thing is as part of an organized group they can easily make their allies tank your dps if you dont bring a proper counter. As it happens none of my mates brings a good healing reduction build, thats our current problem.(...)
The only spec you'll have a hard time fighting is magplar and that only because you won't kill them but neither will they.
Yep, poison snipe ftw. I don't use poisons myself, as I cannot validate their effect on the enemy. But thats a personal problem, I think^^(...) It will have no success against more than 2 mag sorcs who are not completely reta*ded or any organized group, resource poisons and major defile wreck this build in no time
I didn't even know there is a seventh legion bug. Pls don't tell us how to exploit it, but will I trigger it by just using the set or does it require some special setup? I play EU-PC btw., just posting here in the hope of getting a higher chance of catching a devs attention...(...)
The build is not bad with 71 points into befoul and malubeth you get 45% more healing couple this with major mending, 18% from dk passives, vigor, rally and 7th legion bug and you have insanely strong heals on a permablock build that can use
a monster set + 2 other 5pc sets even on the 2h bar (all hail 7th legion exploit)Thing is as part of an organized group they can easily make their allies tank your dps if you dont bring a proper counter. As it happens none of my mates brings a good healing reduction build, thats our current problem.(...)
The only spec you'll have a hard time fighting is magplar and that only because you won't kill them but neither will they.Yep, poison snipe ftw. I don't use poisons myself, as I cannot validate their effect on the enemy. But thats a personal problem, I think^^(...) It will have no success against more than 2 mag sorcs who are not completely reta*ded or any organized group, resource poisons and major defile wreck this build in no time
Hey, I am posting this although I can imagine that many players already know of it's existence, yet only few know how to do it. Furthermore this post is directed to the developer, as a hint to a possible problem and not intended to be a cry/rage thread. The recent changes to blocking (reducing it to 0.25s)clearly indicate, that Zenimax does not want people to be unkillable via perma blocking or tanking entire zergs, which is the only reason why I created this post.
Please have a look at those two videos:
things get interesting @:0:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3n4F1O6Jy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45YLm720oKo
To the guys who created them: thanks for not sharing those builds, they would CLEARLY ruin the game if becoming meta.
As both videos prove, it is still easily possible to outtank whole zergs and dish out heavy damage afterwards. Those kind of builds simply destroy pvp, as they are ridiculously overpowered by doing something that the developer, as stated above, probably does not want people to do.
Also heavy armor magicka templars are still close to being unkillable in pvp, despite the recent nerfs.
Please have a look at it and adjust mechanics accordingly.
Well, he can still break and continue. I think you have no chance without defile, at least not if you dont outnumber these builds.(...)
If your group has 1 nb you can kill him in less than 10 seconds maybe 15 if he's really good. Just fear him and kill him easiest tactic against permablock.
ZOS has proven to be overstrained with balancing this game often enough. Tbh. I've never seen a pvp game that was as unbalanced as ESO. It's just a "family and fun" game.(...) But this stuff seen in the video has been going on way too long in PvP. Players have no confidence in ZoS to reasonably balance this game and why should they?
KingYogi415 wrote: »Look at this magplar video by the same player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gSCVrUFrp0
It looks like he has around 50k magic. I have never seen stats even close to this for a magplar.
Im the last person to call exploits because it is on console. But how is he the only person in the game that can pull off those kind of stats?
I definetely agree that those pugs are totally uncoordinated. I am speaking of blocking cost, though, which is not affected bei dmg done but solely by hits per second. Even with all sturdy+3 cost reduction + max cp he should lose 1.5k stamina per second when blocking a whole raid. His stamina bar doesn't even move much, though, so ppl are either not attacking at all or he has found a way to sustain stamina easily. Earthen heart should give about 1k per activation and he is not spaming his shield. AFAIK yachtboy stated he was wearing bloodspawn and no 7th legion nor rage.
In a more general perspective: there is still many magplars and dks running around that can be barely scratched. Heavy armor is totally broken imo.
Not hard to manage Permblock on any class.
Guess you haven't seen the meta on PC-Eu.
Heavy Armor Magdks with 7 sturdy
blood spawn/ skoria
Desert rose jewellery+ 1h+s
+ other random set
Put enough points into block cost reduction and you can perma block on an magdk with perfect sustain due to igneous shield while having enough damage to kill any stam char except for very good stammbs which won't win in a fight.
The only spec you'll have a hard time fighting is magplar and that only because you won't kill them but neither will they.
For the build above it'll only work against the most stupid stam players and even worse mag players.
It will have no success against more than 2 mag sorcs who are not completely reta*ded or any organized group, resource poisons and major defile wreck this build in no time
The build is not bad with 71 points into befoul and malubeth you get 45% more healing couple this with major mending, 18% from dk passives, vigor, rally and 7th legion bug and you have insanely strong heals on a permablock build that can use
a monster set + 2 other 5pc sets even on the 2h bar (all hail 7th legion exploit)
I definetely agree that those pugs are totally uncoordinated. I am speaking of blocking cost, though, which is not affected bei dmg done but solely by hits per second. Even with all sturdy+3 cost reduction + max cp he should lose 1.5k stamina per second when blocking a whole raid. His stamina bar doesn't even move much, though, so ppl are either not attacking at all or he has found a way to sustain stamina easily. Earthen heart should give about 1k per activation and he is not spaming his shield. AFAIK yachtboy stated he was wearing bloodspawn and no 7th legion nor rage.
In a more general perspective: there is still many magplars and dks running around that can be barely scratched. Heavy armor is totally broken imo.
there are a few sets which could provide him Stamina while blocking: Bloodthorn, Black Rose and Barkskin.Not hard to manage Permblock on any class.
Guess you haven't seen the meta on PC-Eu.
Heavy Armor Magdks with 7 sturdy
blood spawn/ skoria
Desert rose jewellery+ 1h+s
+ other random set
Put enough points into block cost reduction and you can perma block on an magdk with perfect sustain due to igneous shield while having enough damage to kill any stam char except for very good stammbs which won't win in a fight.
The only spec you'll have a hard time fighting is magplar and that only because you won't kill them but neither will they.
For the build above it'll only work against the most stupid stam players and even worse mag players.
It will have no success against more than 2 mag sorcs who are not completely reta*ded or any organized group, resource poisons and major defile wreck this build in no time
The build is not bad with 71 points into befoul and malubeth you get 45% more healing couple this with major mending, 18% from dk passives, vigor, rally and 7th legion bug and you have insanely strong heals on a permablock build that can use
a monster set + 2 other 5pc sets even on the 2h bar (all hail 7th legion exploit)
There´s a 7th Legion exploit?? What?
The healing received is due to a bug/exploit/abuse of Befoul in the Shadow tree not working as it should. Combo that with dk passive, malubeth and HP-regen pots and you´ll get huge amount of healing. Not very difficult to figure out.
The only thing I don´t get from the 2nd video is how he gains stamina while blocking (talking about when he´s not using ultimates or igneous). Constitution passive alone can´t give him that stamina alone.
@BohnT Any thoughts about that?
Another thing I notice in the first video is how he gets 15 ultimate every once in a while. He´s not using Tava´s so I´ve no idea how you can get 15 ultimate with a split second. Anyone got an explanation to this? @BohnT Hope it´s ok if I "bother" you again with my questions ^^
Another thing I notice in the first video is how he gets 15 ultimate every once in a while. He´s not using Tava´s so I´ve no idea how you can get 15 ultimate with a split second. Anyone got an explanation to this? @BohnT Hope it´s ok if I "bother" you again with my questions ^^
Another thing I notice in the first video is how he gets 15 ultimate every once in a while. He´s not using Tava´s so I´ve no idea how you can get 15 ultimate with a split second. Anyone got an explanation to this? @BohnT Hope it´s ok if I "bother" you again with my questions ^^
Bloodspawn?
I think your question got answered. But i have no idea what he's playing on this magplar with stats like this.Another thing I notice in the first video is how he gets 15 ultimate every once in a while. He´s not using Tava´s so I´ve no idea how you can get 15 ultimate with a split second. Anyone got an explanation to this? @BohnT Hope it´s ok if I "bother" you again with my questions ^^
Another thing I notice in the first video is how he gets 15 ultimate every once in a while. He´s not using Tava´s so I´ve no idea how you can get 15 ultimate with a split second. Anyone got an explanation to this? @BohnT Hope it´s ok if I "bother" you again with my questions ^^
KingYogi415 wrote: »Look at this magplar video by the same player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gSCVrUFrp0
It looks like he has around 50k magic. I have never seen stats even close to this for a magplar.
Im the last person to call exploits because it is on console. But how is he the only person in the game that can pull off those kind of stats?
Sturdy, CP campaign with investment in Shadow ward, stack up block cost reduction glyphs, use sets to compensate for missing weapon damage, use either Malubeth or Bloodspawn. the 5p sets matter a bit, but they are flexible.
Stam DKs happen to be good with Battle roar / helping hands since they return stamina while blocking - same for stam wardens to an extent, but any class can permablock with ease.
Difference would be that a magicka DK can permablock AND kill people at the same time a lot easier since Morrowind.
It takes literally 5mn to learn how to make this kind of build. Do your theorycrafting people.