Ability to change weight of the set item?

ForsakenSin

I was just thinking the other day how amazing would it be that crafter with 9 trait in specifit item would be able to change the weight of the set if the changed weight has also 9 trait research.

For example if you have 9 researched in light, medium and heavy and want to change for example light chest set item, you are able to change it into medium or heavy with 400 mats. For example to change the items weight from light to heavy you would need to use 200 cloth and 200 ore.
So
Light Shoulder 9 trait researched can be changed into heavy , If you have heavy 9 trait shoulder reached as well
Medium Shoulder 9 trait researched can be changed into light , If you have light 9 trait shoulder reached as well
Heavy Shoulder 9 trait researched can be changed into medium, If you have medium 9 trait shoulder reached as well

and so on and so on

BlazingDynamo

Yes i would like to have option to change weight of MY created set if i have all 9 research trait in both weights

Something you crafted? Yes that's a great idea! Never once thought of it. But dropped world sets and trial sets? Nah probably not a good idea..and I'm looking at it from a pvp perspective and I don't even pvp.

ForsakenSin

Yes i would like to have option to change weight of ANY set if i have all 9 research trait in both weights

LOL yhea i was upgrading the shoulder and it hit me .. why can't i change if im a 9 trait crafter , i wished we could as the sets im running it 5/5 light all drop items and staff and i wish i was able to change a drop item for 1 medium and 1 heavy or even change some of the items to heavy set and vise verse.

Tai-Chi

No just leave it as it is.

Both of the first two options would have a serious and detrimental affect on both the economy and gameplay of ESO.

Until there is a more well thought out option - that takes into account the overall consequences of such actions - I vote for leaving it as it is.

Slick_007

No just leave it as it is.

so you craft something using the 1 billion cloth you have and then turn it to heavy even though you have no ore?
this idea has so much wrong with it.

ForsakenSin

Yes i would like to have option to change weight of ANY set if i have all 9 research trait in both weights

Slick_007 wrote: »

so you craft something using the 1 billion cloth you have and then turn it to heavy even though you have no ore?
this idea has so much wrong with it.

not exactly ,

Say for example you crafted golden TBS in light and now you want to make a stamina class to try it out , so instead of making a new medium armor of TBS and spending more to gold it out ect, you just use the mats to convert it to the medium.

it would not work that way , to change say from light to heavy you can set it up to use 200 cloth and 200 ore.

Also what about the drop items ? imagine if you would be able to change the weight of a drop set? the possibilities of the builds..

Or for example at the moment we do not have tokens and who knows if we ever will , what about changing the monster shoulder weight from light to medium ect ?

And don't remember you would need to have both 9 crafter skills researched in two weights you wish to change before you would be able to change the weight and that dose take a long time and also would make crafting fell more special.

So there is no misunderstanding i explained it more clearly thanx for point it out

Slick_007

No just leave it as it is.

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Sorry i don't understand where you got 1 billion cloth... it would not work that way , to change say from light to heavy you can set it up to use 200 cloth and 200 ore.

i was suggesting people with crafting mats for 1 weight and not another would use that to bypass not having mats for their chosen weight. if you have to spend the mats again, why not just make a new one.

ForsakenSin

Yes i would like to have option to change weight of ANY set if i have all 9 research trait in both weights

Slick_007 wrote: »

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Sorry i don't understand where you got 1 billion cloth... it would not work that way , to change say from light to heavy you can set it up to use 200 cloth and 200 ore.

i was suggesting people with crafting mats for 1 weight and not another would use that to bypass not having mats for their chosen weight. if you have to spend the mats again, why not just make a new one.

Yhea and i can understand that , however in this case as mentioned you would need to use 200 of each or 150 of each for example, and people would use because its much more quicker to change it and also it would cost less then to upgrade the same set in gold again.

and as mentioned imagine for example changing the rattlecage set from heavy back to light ?

supaskrub

No just leave it as it is.

So the powerful magsorc build i have right now which is only possible with 6 light and 1 heavy or 1 medium pieces should then become even more powerful due to gaining an extra 2% undaunted mettle on all stats, would become borderline over-powered (and this would be the same for other builds people have taken the time to theory craft). Theres a lot of consequences to take into account.

It would unbalance things, its good to push a build to its limits but to change the way things work so that it can be pushed even further is bad and would in the end result in hard nerfs here there and everywhere.

FakeFox

Yes i would like to have option to change weight of MY created set if i have all 9 research trait in both weights

Honstely, I don't care about crafted stuff. Just craft it again in another weight, trait or style. So if people want it, I would support it.

But for dropsets this would destroy game balance completely.

ForsakenSin

Yes i would like to have option to change weight of ANY set if i have all 9 research trait in both weights

supaskrub wrote: »

So the powerful magsorc build i have right now which is only possible with 6 light and 1 heavy or 1 medium pieces should then become even more powerful due to gaining an extra 2% undaunted mettle on all stats, would become borderline over-powered (and this would be the same for other builds people have taken the time to theory craft). Theres a lot of consequences to take into account.

It would unbalance things, its good to push a build to its limits but to change the way things work so that it can be pushed even further is bad and would in the end result in hard nerfs here there and everywhere.

maybe, but it would be good to see all new builds and all different builds not pigionhole , the possibilities would be so many

PlagueSD

No just leave it as it is.

You want to change the "weight" of a crafted item. Just craft a new item. It's not THAT hard.

ForsakenSin

Yes i would like to have option to change weight of ANY set if i have all 9 research trait in both weights

PlagueSD wrote: »

You want to change the "weight" of a crafted item. Just craft a new item. It's not THAT hard.

..... yes true that , but then again you need to gold it out , if you are trying to theorycraft or making a new build you would need to make a same new set and gold it out to test it , and if dose not work you just wasted all gold mats

BlazingDynamo

Yes i would like to have option to change weight of MY created set if i have all 9 research trait in both weights

PlagueSD wrote: »

You want to change the "weight" of a crafted item. Just craft a new item. It's not THAT hard.

No you're right, it's actually very easy. I believe the reason behind such a method would be not having to sink 8 more gold mats into another peice yes?

To each your own.

kargen27

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

ForsakenSin wrote: »

Sorry i don't understand where you got 1 billion cloth... it would not work that way , to change say from light to heavy you can set it up to use 200 cloth and 200 ore.

i was suggesting people with crafting mats for 1 weight and not another would use that to bypass not having mats for their chosen weight. if you have to spend the mats again, why not just make a new one.

Yhea and i can understand that , however in this case as mentioned you would need to use 200 of each or 150 of each for example, and people would use because its much more quicker to change it and also it would cost less then to upgrade the same set in gold again.

and as mentioned imagine for example changing the rattlecage set from heavy back to light ?

The Rattlecage example is exactly why this will not happen. Sustain was reduced for a variety of reasons, no need to argue them here again. Being able to make Rattlecage light would take the game back into the direction ZoS has said they game was never meant to go.

It would also effectively mean you could do one grind to potentially replace three sets. MMOs survive on content being repeated and the different armor sets being what they are tend to cause content to be repeated.

This at first glance seems a good idea but the nerfs to come soon after would negate any benefit and would adversely affect all players even those who didn't take advantage of changing armor weights.

Again take a look at Rattlecage. Those five bonuses and the light armor passives, no way the powers that be are going to leave that alone.

lolo_01b16_ESO

No just leave it as it is.

I admit there have been moments when I wished for some sets to have a different weight (mainly when thinking about support sets like spc, pa, alkosh, shalk, ...).
But from a balance point of view I'd prefer to have different sets restricted to different weights.