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Remove the ability to destroy the top floor inside keeps Zenimax, Seriously

Twohothardware
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Why is this still a thing? It might as well be full on cheating that's sanctioned by Zeni. They destroy the stair case inside a keep that goes to the top floor and then there is no way to get them out without countless deaths while they sit up there shooting siege at you trying. This has been going on for forever in the game yet it's never been addressed. They can fix Dragon leaping into keeps but not this?
  • Morgul667
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    lol I didnt know about that but that seems bad
    Edited by Morgul667 on August 11, 2017 6:58AM
  • Twohothardware
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    lol I didnt know about that but that seems bad

    We have some tryhard groups on PS4 that do it all the time to farm easy AP.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Totally agree. I'd like to hear the thoughts behind why this is possible at all.
  • NBrookus
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    Take the flags, /sitchair until they get bored and come down.
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  • BohnT
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    It is intended and actually those are the most fun fights inside keeps. If you want to kill them and walk directly into their trap why are you wondering that they've killed you?
  • Jawasa
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    @BohnT it's Never a fight you just sit and w8 for the group on top to get bored and jump down.
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    Jawasa wrote: »
    @BohnT it's Never a fight you just sit and w8 for the group on top to get bored and jump down.

    I guess you are always on the wrong side of the stairs then. It needs good movement to clear the top. Best way is to have 2 dks using leap while others follow with gap closers aswell. Anyone who is not fighting has to repair the stairs once done just make good use of negates
  • PathwayM
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    Lol sounds like someone got farmed.
  • technohic
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    Can't nerf every tactic in game. Just cap and wait or leave

    Of course; I also felt they should let DKs keep leaping into keep ledges as well. Not like 1 guy is going to decimate all defenders any more than 1 guy jumping down would the attackers. Made for scenes similar to movie or TV sieges aggressively gets in top of the wall similar to Stannis Baratheon assault on the Red Keep or Ragnar Lodbrock when attacking Paris. It added some excitement rather than sit here, siege and purge.
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    All you have to do to end every single 3rd story ruined staircase farm is to have one player with the Swarm Mother set. Every siege, Dot, execute, light attack, etc., used by the "farmers" will drag them off the third floor where they can be readily killed. Seen this happen personally, seriously it ends the farm in less than 5 minutes.

    Will be doubly effective next update.

    I really want to see a vid of this, never seen it in action before!
  • Sanctum74
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    If you hit the bottom of the top floor from below with coldfire it will damage them and then you can jump the gap to get up there and finish them off.

    From the outer keep wall you can target the people on siege to give you time to repair the roof.

    I used to be in a guild that did this, we would call it Farragut Friday and had some fun with our friendly EP neighbors.
  • Jawasa
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    @Joy_Division If you farm on top you don't even need to stand in gap closer range just let the ballistas and oils do the work. I guess swarm mother would work. But the best way to break it is to do it before they can destroy the stairs atleast that's how I've done when I'm with a guild group.
  • Joy_Division
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    Jawasa wrote: »
    @Joy_Division If you farm on top you don't even need to stand in gap closer range just let the ballistas and oils do the work. I guess swarm mother would work. But the best way to break it is to do it before they can destroy the stairs atleast that's how I've done when I'm with a guild group.

    There's no guess about it. The guy wearing Swarm Mother doesn't have to do anything except hold down block. I was one of the farmers and in less than 5 minutes everyone got dragged off the top floor. Everyone who was there has never even mentioned the idea of 3rd floor farming since because it was broken up so pathetically easy.
  • Jawasa
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    That is hilarious. XD
  • QuebraRegra
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    All you have to do to end every single 3rd story ruined staircase farm is to have one player with the Swarm Mother set. Every siege, Dot, execute, light attack, etc., used by the "farmers" will drag them off the third floor where they can be readily killed. Seen this happen personally, seriously it ends the farm in less than 5 minutes.

    Will be doubly effective next update.

    I really want to see a vid of this, never seen it in action before!

    troll groups do this a fair amount on XBOX
  • worsttankever
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    @Joy_Division Great idea re swarm mother! Wish it worked in nonvet. I've seen it there in PS4 NA.
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    All you have to do to end every single 3rd story ruined staircase farm is to have one player with the Swarm Mother set. Every siege, Dot, execute, light attack, etc., used by the "farmers" will drag them off the third floor where they can be readily killed. Seen this happen personally, seriously it ends the farm in less than 5 minutes.

    Will be doubly effective next update.

    I really want to see a vid of this, never seen it in action before!

    troll groups do this a fair amount on XBOX

    They were popular on PC NA for little awhile. The fact PS4 NA groups have also started doing it comes to no surprise to me. But there are more tools to deal with it now, like Swarm Mother.
  • Theodard
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    It's certainly rough being on the down side of that farm, but can be tons of fun on the top side too. That said, as was mentioned Swarm Mothers does wonders to end it as does setting up siege around the outer walls of the keep firing in. Fire and Cold Fire Ballistas do amazing things when fired into such a small space. Have someone wearing VD adds to the quick break up.
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