ZOS wants all PvP on Sheild Stacking Sorcs?

Crom_CCCXVI

I'm seeing about 75% of the Cyrodil, BG population running Sheild Stacking Sorcs, and I guess that isn't high enough?

-- First you nerf regen poisons. They were already expensive, and were far from a guarantee to proc... but you cut them in 1/2, so they are now worthless.

Now your new updates,
-- nerf defending weapons (those things us non-sheild stackers use)
-- increase magika in sets, I'm assuming so those Sorcs can keep those sheilds buffed
-- and the worst, ruin the sheild breaker staff. If someone was willing to sell out their build, get crushed by heavy armor templars and DK's, just so they can fight one of the ten builds in the game at the expense of the other 9? oh wow, better nerf that too!

Stam characters are already almost extinct, and you want to buff sheild stacking sorcs in August?
DOES ANYONE AT ZOS ACTUALLY PLAY PVP?

andreasranasen

Another anti-sorc thread. Groundbreaking...

bubbygink

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

-- First you nerf regen poisons. They were already expensive, and were far from a guarantee to proc... but you cut them in 1/2, so they are now worthless.

LOL I stopped reading right here.

Tryxus

This guy again?

CheepsNSalsa

Idk what server you are in but all I see in PC NA are gankblades, perma blocking dk's and wardens. Sorc might be the class I see the least. Also if you ever played sorc you would see why shield stacking is not an issue. If you come across a magsorc who can stack shields to the point where you can't bring them down at all you need more damage or the sorc is running nothing but sustain sets and should be left alone because they post no threat in their Lich/amberplasm no damage setup.

Magdalina

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

Stam characters are already almost extinct, and you want to buff sheild stacking sorcs in August?
DOES ANYONE AT ZOS ACTUALLY PLAY PVP?

Well Idk about ZOS but personally my BGs experience(and I did enough BGs last week alone to earn nearly a million ap from BGs alone) consist of roughly 3/4 stam opponents(leaving only about 1/4 for all magicka classes including sorc) which I as a magsorc actually find very hard to counter if they know what they're doing - my pitiful dodgeable no cp burst is nothing compared to their 10k dizzying swing spam to the face. Followed right by Viper and <insert monster proc set of choice>(which hopefully won't be a thing next patch, long overdue). Now I don't claim to be the best sorc out there, I'm by far and large not, but neither are most other sorcs you meet out there.

Haven't done enough Cyrodiil lately but last I checked, the ratio was about the same there.

Balance is always argueable but "stam characters are extinct"? I had to double check the data of your post to make sure. What patch are you playing? Because I'd sure love to play it too.

deepseamk20b14_ESO

My stamblade is running strong. Not running the meta viper build either.

DODHitman

Magdalina wrote: »

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

Stam characters are already almost extinct, and you want to buff sheild stacking sorcs in August?
DOES ANYONE AT ZOS ACTUALLY PLAY PVP?

Well Idk about ZOS but personally my BGs experience(and I did enough BGs last week alone to earn nearly a million ap from BGs alone) consist of roughly 3/4 stam opponents(leaving only about 1/4 for all magicka classes including sorc) which I as a sorc actually find very hard to counter if they know what they're doing - my pitiful dodgeable no cp burst is nothing compared to their 10k dizzying swing spam to the face. Followed right by Viper and <insert monster proc set of choice>(which hopefully won't be a thing next patch, long overdue). Now I don't claim to be the best sorc out there, I'm by far and large not, but neither are most other sorcs you meet out there.

Haven't done enough Cyrodiil lately but last I checked, the ratio was about the same there.

Balance is always argueable but "stam characters are extinct"? I had to double check the data of your post to make sure. What patch are you playing? Because I'd sure love to play it too.

THIS EXACTLY....Stam seems to be top tier for BG's plain and simple

DeadlyRecluse

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

I'm seeing about 75% of the Cyrodil, BG population running Sheild Stacking Sorcs, and I guess that isn't high enough?

-- First you nerf regen poisons. They were already expensive, and were far from a guarantee to proc... but you cut them in 1/2, so they are now worthless.

Now your new updates,
-- nerf defending weapons (those things us non-sheild stackers use)
-- increase magika in sets, I'm assuming so those Sorcs can keep those sheilds buffed
-- and the worst, ruin the sheild breaker staff. If someone was willing to sell out their build, get crushed by heavy armor templars and DK's, just so they can fight one of the ten builds in the game at the expense of the other 9? oh wow, better nerf that too!

1. Regen poisons were (and still are) obnoxious. Reducing their effeciency wasn't a buff to sorcs any more than it was a buff to any other class. If anything, it was a "nerf" to all types of templars, as they were the only class who could afford to cleanse often enough to neutralize poisons.
2. Defending nerf is addmittedly odd (probably just an attempt to maintain sharpened/defending synergy), but hardly part of a grand plan to push people to play sorcs (or a specific nerf to non-sorcs).
3. Increase in magicka helps magicka sorcs...and every other magicka class. Oh, and max stam was increased, too, helping every stam class.
4. Shieldbreaker staff was a bugfix, not a nerf. It was a cheesy, well known bug. Don't worry, there's plenty of new cheese out there.

ParaNostram

So did you conduct a census? Cuz your claim of 75% sounds like something you pulled out of your [redacted].

Slack

I play in light armor (temp) and Dizzying Swing - proc - spammers are by far the hardest opponents to me.
Or even those *** that just spam executioner and let Viper/ Velidreth / stealth bonus damage do the job

Strider_Roshin

Magsorcs and proc blades are mainly what I see. At least half of the stupidity is going away next update.

idk

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

I'm seeing about 75% of the Cyrodil, BG population running Sheild Stacking Sorcs, and I guess that isn't high enough?

When a thread opens with such an erroneous statement I see no reason to read the rest. LOL, 75% of the Cyrodiil and BG population are shield stacking sorcs.

Biro123

Still want to swap implosion..

PlagueSD

ParaNostram wrote: »

So did you conduct a census? Cuz your claim of 75% sounds like something you pulled out of your [redacted].

You do know that 80% of statistics are made up 15% of the time, right?

KingWhyteboi

I've been playing stamplar this whole patch and it's is by far more powerful that it has ever been and I don't use a single proc

Idinuse

andreasranasen wrote: »

Another anti-sorc thread. Groundbreaking...

POps75p

if they give it to you, just take it, no more NERF's

disintegr8

Maybe there are more sorcs out there than others - when I get Sorcs on my bounty missions they certainly get completed faster than any other class specific bounty (PS4 NA).

(A NB bounty would get done quicker if they didn't run and hide when their initial attack doesn't kill you and you start fighting back).

FloppyTouch

Bgs for the most part are Stam NB and magic sorc this is very much true.

It's about 50/50

Caligamy_ESO

Go ahead and make a "Shield-stacking" Sorc, meanwhile I will be getting my Infused Torug's Pact setup with Oblivion and Disease enchants ready. Catch up already..

Betsararie

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Bgs for the most part are Stam NB and magic sorc this is very much true.

It's about 50/50

I don't agree.

BGs seem to be about 50% nb, 25% DK, and then the remaining 25% is spread among the other classes, with sorcs being the majority within that 25%.

Sneaky-Snurr

Procblades, procsorcs, procplars are the most common cheese being ran in PvP.
I've never fought a proc build DK before but I'm quite sure they exist, though in veery little numbers. Personally, I find that proc damage set users have it easy with the current meta.
Aaaand I'll stop it right here..

NyassaV

I honestly don't care what you said as most of it was BS... But yeah sorcs need some adjusting no doubt about it

ccfeeling

Let it be , players will start to leave when they feel the game is stupid.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Procblades, procsorcs, procplars are the most common cheese being ran in PvP.
I've never fought a proc build DK before but I'm quite sure they exist, though in veery little numbers. Personally, I find that proc damage set users have it easy with the current meta.
Aaaand I'll stop it right here..

You do realise virtually every mag dk runs skoria? Aka proc set.

Feanor

Another day, another nerf Sorc thread. This is starting to feel like Groundhog Day.

Unfadingsilence

Just make Shields take critical damage GG

Beardimus

Welcome.to the game, assume you are new to PvP. Don't worry after you L2P you will find Sorc are the easiest to kill.

FloppyTouch

Beardimus wrote: »

Welcome.to the game, assume you are new to PvP. Don't worry after you L2P you will find Sorc are the easiest to kill.

XD lol yh okay

Emma_Overload

CheepsNSalsa wrote: »

Idk what server you are in but all I see in PC NA are gankblades, perma blocking dk's and wardens. Sorc might be the class I see the least. Also if you ever played sorc you would see why shield stacking is not an issue. If you come across a magsorc who can stack shields to the point where you can't bring them down at all you need more damage or the sorc is running nothing but sustain sets and should be left alone because they post no threat in their Lich/amberplasm no damage setup.

I agree with all of this. I'm always happy when I run into an enemy Sorc, because they're so much less deadly than Nightblades, and so much easier to kill than Dragonknights.