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Nos's "Mirakuru" BowBow Stamina Warden (Wrathstone DLC ready)

  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    WAMB0 wrote: »
    While Hail is the biggest part of dps, you're also loosing ticks of caltrops, (possibly? poison injection) and beasttrap
    But I now got a parse (although not my best) where sub was bigger part than hail.

    Nvm I found the big mistake. I was using other WM jewels than on my stamplar, so I was missing 2 WP dmg enchants, just now reached 37,5k first try.
    Running into sustain issues again with only 2-3 HA. So I either have to go 3-4 or swap to Stormfist or depend on bubbles.

    You dobt lose any uptime on caltrops or Trap Beast, you may lose some on PI and Hail. However I consistently hit 40k+ with this rotation and my max was 41.2k
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    @hedna123b14_ESO

    iirc you used to post your builds on TF. Had not seen an update in awhile so stopped looking there. Wil you be posting your builds there again?

    Thx for the reply below. Will be looking forward to seeing your other builds.
    Edited by idk on June 1, 2018 6:15AM
    Really, idk
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Ill be posting in bothj
    Edited by hedna123b14_ESO on June 1, 2018 6:14AM
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  • Masel
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    Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.
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  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.

    Did you seb's video?

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    SodanTok wrote: »
    Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.

    Did you seb's video?


    Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long :|
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  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.

    Did you seb's video?


    Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long :|

    Here is the issue: people say it's broken and you can definitely make a case for that - a synergy providing 8-15k dps is insane, but then you have to think - it doesnt benefit melee, it only benefits ranged. Magicka range dobt get more than 2-3k from it, which is fine, but stam range isnt viable without it. So I'd argue that if they want to nerf it, let them buff Bow/Bow enough to make it viable. Bow is already penalized with cast time on Lethals and any buff to that skill will *** off PvPers. So buff the passives. Make Hawkeye stack to 10 stacks and 40-50% max damage. Make accuracy give 5% crit and 170 wpn damage. Again both of the values can be balance tested and adjusted, but buffing Hawkeye is a major way to do it well imho. Especially if you buff it by requiring more stacks
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    is it current (I keep seeing older dates)and more importantly...is it fun to play? ')

    (03/07/2019 - Updated for Wrathstone) found it!! but again, is it fun??
    Edited by Joxer61 on March 7, 2019 8:52PM
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.

    Did you seb's video?


    Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long :|

    Here is the issue: people say it's broken and you can definitely make a case for that - a synergy providing 8-15k dps is insane, but then you have to think - it doesnt benefit melee, it only benefits ranged. Magicka range dobt get more than 2-3k from it, which is fine, but stam range isnt viable without it. So I'd argue that if they want to nerf it, let them buff Bow/Bow enough to make it viable. Bow is already penalized with cast time on Lethals and any buff to that skill will *** off PvPers. So buff the passives. Make Hawkeye stack to 10 stacks and 40-50% max damage. Make accuracy give 5% crit and 170 wpn damage. Again both of the values can be balance tested and adjusted, but buffing Hawkeye is a major way to do it well imho. Especially if you buff it by requiring more stacks

    Yup, that would be the smart way. But from past I fear they will just see single strong mechanic (trapping webs) and scale them down and totally ignore that if this is making bows performing so good they should give something in exchange. If they want bows to keep performing good. Honestly I would even prefer that way since this Synergy is way too limiting for unorganized groups. Here is hoping the recent 'popularity' is something that puts bow to their mind again and they wont shut it at peak again like they did in Morrowind update
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    is it current (I keep seeing older dates)and more importantly...is it fun to play? ')

    (03/07/2019 - Updated for Wrathstone) found it!! but again, is it fun??

    Loads! Surviving at range is a challenge especially when groups dont spec for it. The main requirement is Shadow Silk
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.

    Did you seb's video?


    Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long :|

    Here is the issue: people say it's broken and you can definitely make a case for that - a synergy providing 8-15k dps is insane, but then you have to think - it doesnt benefit melee, it only benefits ranged. Magicka range dobt get more than 2-3k from it, which is fine, but stam range isnt viable without it. So I'd argue that if they want to nerf it, let them buff Bow/Bow enough to make it viable. Bow is already penalized with cast time on Lethals and any buff to that skill will *** off PvPers. So buff the passives. Make Hawkeye stack to 10 stacks and 40-50% max damage. Make accuracy give 5% crit and 170 wpn damage. Again both of the values can be balance tested and adjusted, but buffing Hawkeye is a major way to do it well imho. Especially if you buff it by requiring more stacks

    Yup, that would be the smart way. But from past I fear they will just see single strong mechanic (trapping webs) and scale them down and totally ignore that if this is making bows performing so good they should give something in exchange. If they want bows to keep performing good. Honestly I would even prefer that way since this Synergy is way too limiting for unorganized groups. Here is hoping the recent 'popularity' is something that puts bow to their mind again and they wont shut it at peak again like they did in Morrowind update

    We can hope, but they have a horrible track record...
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    is it current (I keep seeing older dates)and more importantly...is it fun to play? ')

    (03/07/2019 - Updated for Wrathstone) found it!! but again, is it fun??

    Loads! Surviving at range is a challenge especially when groups dont spec for it. The main requirement is Shadow Silk

    supplied by whom?
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    Joxer61 wrote: »
    is it current (I keep seeing older dates)and more importantly...is it fun to play? ')

    (03/07/2019 - Updated for Wrathstone) found it!! but again, is it fun??

    Loads! Surviving at range is a challenge especially when groups dont spec for it. The main requirement is Shadow Silk

    supplied by whom?

    Usually main tank
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    Joxer61 wrote: »
    is it current (I keep seeing older dates)and more importantly...is it fun to play? ')

    (03/07/2019 - Updated for Wrathstone) found it!! but again, is it fun??

    Loads! Surviving at range is a challenge especially when groups dont spec for it. The main requirement is Shadow Silk

    supplied by whom?

    Usually main tank

    cheers!!!
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    ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
    What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
    Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?
  • Masel
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    Stamplar can do it too :smiley:

    This is not optimised yet so 53-54k is definitely doable.


    If only the cast time on lethal wouldn't snare you that much.

    I also tried crushing but it weaves horribly...
    Edited by Masel on March 7, 2019 9:55PM
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  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
    What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
    Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?

    Stamina hits harder than magicka
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
    What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
    Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?

    Stamina hits harder than magicka

    lol, well that's not an elaborated reply! ;) Was hoping for a tad more but I guess a "just cuz" will have to do....
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    Joxer61 wrote: »
    ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
    What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
    Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?

    Stamina hits harder than magicka

    lol, well that's not an elaborated reply! ;) Was hoping for a tad more but I guess a "just cuz" will have to do....

    Sorry. I meant to say that the synergy scales with stam and stam pen so it doesnt hit as hard on mag. As for pure range setup the damage should be fairly comparable between the two, but stam usually hits harder due to greater wpn damage scaling.
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    Joxer61 wrote: »
    ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
    What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
    Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?

    Stamina hits harder than magicka

    lol, well that's not an elaborated reply! ;) Was hoping for a tad more but I guess a "just cuz" will have to do....

    Sorry. I meant to say that the synergy scales with stam and stam pen so it doesnt hit as hard on mag. As for pure range setup the damage should be fairly comparable between the two, but stam usually hits harder due to greater wpn damage scaling.

    But...folks doin 51k on Magden while others doing 52+k on Stam, I reckon it all comes down to what you like since neither offers "support" for the group?
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    Joxer61 wrote: »
    Joxer61 wrote: »
    ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
    What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
    Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?

    Stamina hits harder than magicka

    lol, well that's not an elaborated reply! ;) Was hoping for a tad more but I guess a "just cuz" will have to do....

    Sorry. I meant to say that the synergy scales with stam and stam pen so it doesnt hit as hard on mag. As for pure range setup the damage should be fairly comparable between the two, but stam usually hits harder due to greater wpn damage scaling.

    But...folks doin 51k on Magden while others doing 52+k on Stam, I reckon it all comes down to what you like since neither offers "support" for the group?

    The main issue is stamden can be further buffed considerably more in raid with penetration. Mag is already near pen cap.
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    102.8k on 6 mil dummy

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    Just realized what OP told me...the "key" is the Shadow Silk and if no one is using it and no other bow/bow then yea, you kinda hosed really. Maybe better off staying a magden...hmmmm.
    Edited by Joxer61 on March 8, 2019 6:07AM
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    I gotta try this on stam DK when I get tzognvoins stuff. Sustain would be easy, could add acid spray for another dot. Not gonna hit like warden or NB, but could be pretty decent still
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  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Draxys wrote: »
    I gotta try this on stam DK when I get tzognvoins stuff. Sustain would be easy, could add acid spray for another dot. Not gonna hit like warden or NB, but could be pretty decent still

    Yeah I'd say DK is the worst for this since none of its class skills work with it. Youd probably only be using Flames of Oblivion:(
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    SodanTok wrote: »
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    Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.

    Did you seb's video?


    Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long :|

    Here is the issue: people say it's broken and you can definitely make a case for that - a synergy providing 8-15k dps is insane, but then you have to think - it doesnt benefit melee, it only benefits ranged. Magicka range dobt get more than 2-3k from it, which is fine, but stam range isnt viable without it. So I'd argue that if they want to nerf it, let them buff Bow/Bow enough to make it viable. Bow is already penalized with cast time on Lethals and any buff to that skill will *** off PvPers. So buff the passives. Make Hawkeye stack to 10 stacks and 40-50% max damage. Make accuracy give 5% crit and 170 wpn damage. Again both of the values can be balance tested and adjusted, but buffing Hawkeye is a major way to do it well imho. Especially if you buff it by requiring more stacks

    40-50% is too high, frankly it's fine the way it is and the statement "but stam range isnt viable without it" in reference to the Shadow Silk synergy just doesn't seem true.

    On some solo stam sorc parses I averaged about 43k dps in melee dw/bow, 42k dps in melee with bow/bow. The BOW from ranged bumped up to 47-48k dps from long shot. Bow can keep up minor force with Warband and doesn't need to worry about rearming trap connecting with a moving target as well as the high cost associated with sprinting in between targets or recasting the ability because it missed the moving target (we've all been there).

    DW solo parses are also a bit inflated because rending slash and axe bleeds aren't increased by higher penetration values available in group environments where penetration cap is met. Bows don't use any bleeds.

    I want bow/bow to be viable and it finally is, but for it to be stronger than melee makes no sense, it should be as strong as magicka ranged builds. Same holds true for magicka melee vs stam melee, but thats another discussion..

    Obviously there is the downside of snipe being a cast time ability/single target, arguably giving less cleave/aoe as well as susceptible to cast time cancellations from dodge rolling, blocking or interruptions, but you get the added convenience of ranged survivability, better sustain, bar space, ranged dmg uptime vs lower melee dmg uptime and a easier rotation.

    Throw in elude for a 30 sec buff on major evasion and you have the range + the mitigation of melee stam builds without a sacrifice to your bar space that some DW builds can't afford to lose to have competitive dps.

    I tested melee builds with Warband using rearming trap vs not using rearming trap and saving the bar space.

    Using Rearming Trap with a more powerful set like Advancing Yokeda pulls higher dps than Warband without Rearming Trap on melee builds. Taking the skill out of your rotation serves to lower dps by about 5%, but gives you 1 extra flex spot for melee builds, fair trade. For bow/bow builds it's a bit of a no brainer because channeled acceleration provided no dmg from the skill itself and served to slow down a rotation every 36 seconds

    This is all before you take in to account this ridiculously strong shadow silk synergy which I had no access to in my solo tests.

    Imo, bow is in a good spot, it doesn't need much. The only thing they should change is to make long shot effect all skills instead of just bow skills. This would make more bow/bow builds a little more versatile without buffing them beyond melee builds, it still requires the distance to benefit from.

    Other skill lines like DW have their skills only effect their own weapon skills so it's not really something I see happening and giving a flat buff that works in melee range will just put bow/bow above melee for no reason. There would be no purpose to choose DW or 2H with a change like more crit or dmg or +50% dmg from Hawk Eye.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on March 8, 2019 10:57PM
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    Shadow Silk will be easier to manage since Zos have shortened the range from which to activate Shadow Silks synergy, making it slightly easier to use.
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      We do not consider the promotion of guilds, fan sites, and fan groups, or the activities and content thereof, to be advertising. Please feel free to let The Elder Scrolls Online community know all about your guild, fan site, or fan group! Simply keep in mind that you may not promote your guild, fan site, or fan group if you are looking to turn a monetary profit by doing so.
      • Bashing and Slanderous Comments: We do not permit the bashing of individuals (including ZeniMax employees), groups, or other companies on our forums. We believe that doing so is neither constructive nor in spirit of our game and community.
      • Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation: We do not tolerate the deliberate and malicious spreading of false info or conspiracy theories about ZeniMax Online Studios, its game(s), or its employees. This does not include honest mistakes; rather, this rule pertains to those who go out of their way to spread harmful or malicious rumors about ZeniMax Online Studios and its employees, or The Elder Scrolls Online.
      • Copyright Infringement: Names and Material: We do not allow copyright-protected names on our forums. Copyright-protected names are typically from well-known original characters in books, games, and movies. We also do not permit discussion about the illegal distribution or use of copyrighted material, such as private game servers or pirated movies, music, and games.
      • Cursing and Profanity: Purposefully circumventing our forum profanity filter or otherwise cursing or using profanity is not permitted on our forums. Our forums have a profanity filter in place for the purpose of keeping profanity off our forums — please help us keep the ESO community constructive and profanity-free by respecting that filter.
      • Demands and Threats: We encourage you to share feedback, suggestion, and requests with us, but we expect all of our community members to refrain from resorting to demands or threats. We believe that demands and threats are not constructive. Threats of real-life violence, in particular, are something we take very seriously and do not tolerate in the ESO community.
      • Deliberately Disobeying a ZeniMax Online Employee: Deliberately disobeying a request or action by a member of the ZeniMax Online Studios/ESO Team is not permitted at any time. As an example, if we close a thread you created and leave an explanation stating why it was closed, you may not re-create the thread.
      • Discussing Disciplinary Actions: If you ever have questions or concerns about a disciplinary action or decision we have made on the ESO forums, or wish to appeal a forum warning or infraction you’ve received, we ask that you please contact https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/ to do so (please specify that you are contacting about a forum-related inquiry or appeal). We are happy to discuss and review specific moderation-related actions with you, but we do not allow discussion of any moderation actions or decisions on our forums. If you have questions or concerns about an in-game disciplinary action, please contact https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/ to ask about a suspension or ban, and any other support-related feedback. We cannot assist with in-game violations on the forums.
      • Flaming: It’s okay to disagree and debate on the official ESO forums, but we do ask that you keep all disagreements civil, constructive, and on-topic. If a discussion gets heated and turns into a debate, remember that you should stick to debating the post and/or thread topic. It is never appropriate to resort to personal comments or jabs about those participating in the thread discussion.
      • Goodbye/Quitting Threads: We understand that sometimes people will leave the ESO community, and want to post a “goodbye” or “quitting” thread. Generally, we have found that “goodbye” and “quitting” threads have a tendency to go downhill fast. It is our policy to read the feedback in “goodbye” and “quitting” threads and close them, regardless of whether they are constructive or not.
      • Hate Speech: We take the use of hate speech very seriously in the official ESO community, and have a zero tolerance policy. Our definition of hate speech is prejudice or hateful comments, slurs, or statements that promote violence or intolerance toward others because of the following:
        • Race.
        • Creed.
        • Color.
        • National Origin.
        • Gender.
        • Age.
        • Disability.
        • Sexual Orientation.
        • Lifestyle.
        • Any other personally identifying factors.
        Please help us ensure that everyone feels welcome and free to participate on the official ESO community forums.
      • Impersonation: We do not tolerate impersonation of any kind in the official ESO community, and take impersonation attempts very seriously when they do occur. Impersonation includes using a display name, photos, posts, or any other material with the intent to fool people into believing you are a ZeniMax Online Studios employee, another community member, a celebrity, or anyone else you are not.
      • Inappropriate Content and Language: Certain topics and subjects are deemed inappropriate and not permitted on the official ESO forums. Things that we consider inappropriate are usually illegal, extremely volatile or violent, obscene, vulgar, or simply inappropriate for an official game forum such as ours. Inappropriate content on the ESO forums includes, but is not limited to the following:
        • Extreme violence
        • Illegal substances and activities
        • Pirated copyright-protected material
        • Pornography and other sexually explicit topics
        • Real-world religion and politics
        • Tasteless, vulgar, or obscene material
        One specific term we’d like to call out, as well, is the term “gay.” It is never appropriate to use “gay” as a derogatory term.
      • Malicious Links: We do not tolerate the posting of malicious links on our forums, for any reason. This includes links to pornographic material, key-loggers, and browser hijackers, but also includes links to private game server sites, phishing scams, and sites that sell in-game currencies and power-leveling services.
        We greatly appreciate when our community members wish to report a harmful or misleading ESO-related site to us, but please do not do so on the official ESO forums. If you discover a site you want to report to us, please report them at https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/.
      • Names in Thread Titles: Please refrain from placing the names of ZeniMax Online Studios employees or ESO community members in your thread titles. Directing a thread at a specific individual, or otherwise using a thread to call someone out, is not considered constructive. If you need to get a hold of a specific community member, please send them a private message.
      • Naming-and-Shaming: We do not allow posts or threads that are created for the purpose of “naming-and-shaming” other community member(s). “Naming-and-shaming” is the act of creating a post to call out an individual or group by name, and making them the subject of public accusation, ridicule and/or shaming. Generally, naming-and-shaming involves an in-game situation and/or Terms of Service violation, which the ESO Community Team is unable to assist with. A certain amount of rivalry and competitive razzing is healthy for any game community, especially one with PVP elements, but naming-and-shaming goes well beyond that. It typically elevates to a point where the subject feels legitimately harassed. We believe that naming-and-shaming posts and threads can be abused and are very harmful to the community. We also don't feel that publicly calling out or accusing others by name on our forums is in spirit of the game or our community. If you genuinely believe someone has violated our Terms of Service, you should report them in-game via the support interface — do not bring the situation onto the official ESO community forums.
      • Personal Information: For the sake of your own identity protection and personal privacy, we ask that you please do not share any personal information in the official The Elder Scrolls Online community. This also goes for sharing another community member’s personal information — doing so is not only considered malicious behavior, but it is a violation of our Terms of Service and something we take very seriously.
      • Petitions and Protests: We do not allow petitions or protests on our forums. Due to the fact that both promote the use of demands and replies that consist of “/signed” or little else, we feel that neither encourage nor allow for meaningful and constructive discussion. Instead of using a petition or protest, we recommend presenting your thoughts as a request or suggestion so everyone in the community can discuss it.
      • Role-Play/Fan Fiction God Modding: We support the fan fiction and role-playing communities on the ESO forum, and ask that you please respect your fellow writers and role-players by not “god modding.” God modding is the act of forcing another community member’s character into a situation they have not agreed to. If you wish to involve another person's character in a story or role-play scenario, please respect that individual’s wishes and get their permission first. Failure to do so is considered “god modding,” and is not allowed on the ESO forums.
      • Rude and Insulting Comments/Commentary: We understand that sometimes tempers rise, but it is never acceptable to resort to rude comments and insults. This goes for rude comments and insults directed at other community members, and ZeniMax Online Studios employees alike.
      • Selling, Trading, and Sharing Game Accounts: The act of selling, trading, or sharing your ESO account is a violation of our Terms of Service. As such, we also do not allow discussion about selling, trading, or sharing game accounts on our forums.
      • Spamming: Please do not post spam on the official The Elder Scrolls Online forums. Below are a few examples of what we define as spamming:
        • Posting the same message more than once.
        • Posting messages that are nonsensical or have no real content.
        • Posting messages or images large enough to disrupt the normal flow of conversation.
        • Reposting material that has been removed by a member of the ESO Team.
        Also, please refrain from posting the same topic in multiple areas of the forum, or cross-posting in an attempt to gain further views or replies. This is considered spamming, and the duplicate threads will be removed.
      • Thread Bumping: Please refrain from replying to discussion threads for the sole purpose of “bumping” them. This is considered to be a form of spam because it does not add to the discussion in a constructive or meaningful way. We understand that everyone would like to keep their discussion active and visible, but we encourage you to strive for meaningful and constructive posts instead of posts that consist of nothing more than “Bump!”
      • Trolling or Baiting: The act of trolling is defined as something that is created for the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction. It’s okay and very normal to disagree with others, and even to debate, but provoking conflict, baiting, inciting, mocking, etc. is never acceptable in the official The Elder Scrolls Online community. If you do not have something constructive or meaningful to add to a discussion, we strongly recommend you refrain from posting in that thread, and find another discussion to participate in instead. It is also not constructive or helpful to publicly call out others and accuse them of trolling, or call them a troll—please refrain from doing so. If you genuinely believe someone is trolling, please report the post or thread to the ESO Team, and leave it at that.
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