Show me your Mag DK PVP builds

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Hey guys looking at the best setups on a Mag DK for:
Open world
Cp
Solo play

Theres so many potential sets (which are very costly).
A cheaper setup I'm considering:
5 sun
5 seducer
2 monster

I've heard impregnable in sturdy is suppose to be very good.

W0lf_z13

currently I'm running 5x Sun/5x BsW/2x Skoria ... might be a little squishy ( still can take a slight beating though ) but I'm surprisingly having a blast with this setup

josiahva

I use 5 rattlecage/4 Way of martial knowledge(5 on sword and board backbar, but I use the set for its 4 piece) 2 Illambris. This makes for a tanky heavy armor magicka DK using a charged lightning staff to maximize off balance and free flame lashes. Not the highest damage ever, but great survivability. 7 Hakeijo enchants. Its well balanced for PvP play. The high uptime on power lash increases sustain substantially. sometimes I swap out Way of martial knowledge for Bloodthorne for backbar to increase sustain on S&B bar.

Aside from PvP, in PvE I am able to tank any non-DLC dungeon while still putting out 20k single target...makes it ideal for solo questing. Tankiness+damage+PvP vialbility.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

currently I'm running 5x Sun/5x BsW/2x Skoria ... might be a little squishy ( still can take a slight beating though ) but I'm surprisingly having a blast with this setup

Have thought of that setup, sounds fun I'm sure the burst is unreal.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

josiahva wrote: »

I use 5 rattlecage/4 Way of martial knowledge(5 on sword and board backbar, but I use the set for its 4 piece) 2 Illambris. This makes for a tanky heavy armor magicka DK using a charged lightning staff to maximize off balance and free flame lashes. Not the highest damage ever, but great survivability. 7 Hakeijo enchants. Its well balanced for PvP play. The high uptime on power lash increases sustain substantially. sometimes I swap out Way of martial knowledge for Bloodthorne for backbar to increase sustain on S&B bar.

Aside from PvP, in PvE I am able to tank any non-DLC dungeon while still putting out 20k single target...makes it ideal for solo questing. Tankiness+damage+PvP vialbility.

Sounds different, although I'd change illambris in Pvp for something more useful (as ppl will walk out of the effect).

W0lf_z13

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

currently I'm running 5x Sun/5x BsW/2x Skoria ... might be a little squishy ( still can take a slight beating though ) but I'm surprisingly having a blast with this setup

Have thought of that setup, sounds fun I'm sure the burst is unreal.

yeah, its def nice ... just have to constantly throw shields up and monitor health ... def different than my usual 5 heavy setup play for sure ... i lucked out very much during a 3 day farming spree for the sun pieces and got 2x sharpened swords, 1 sharpened inferno, 1 sharpened resto, 2x reinforced sun shields and a sturdy shield ... ( running dw/destro currently )

Nelson_Rebel

I use 5 sun 5 seducer as well

3 heavy armor (3 body seducer)
s&B (seducer)
3 sun Jewelry
Resto staff of Sun Backbar
2 Heavy Monster Piece Bloodspawn (ultimate uptime=great sustainability+survivability)


The rest is dependent on how you fight

IcyDeadPeople

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

I use 5 sun 5 seducer as well

3 heavy armor (3 body seducer)
s&B (seducer)
3 sun Jewelry
Resto staff of Sun Backbar
2 Heavy Monster Piece Bloodspawn (ultimate uptime=great sustainability+survivability)


The rest is dependent on how you fight

3 heavy...so you end up with neither light nor heavy passives?

josiahva

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

josiahva wrote: »

I use 5 rattlecage/4 Way of martial knowledge(5 on sword and board backbar, but I use the set for its 4 piece) 2 Illambris. This makes for a tanky heavy armor magicka DK using a charged lightning staff to maximize off balance and free flame lashes. Not the highest damage ever, but great survivability. 7 Hakeijo enchants. Its well balanced for PvP play. The high uptime on power lash increases sustain substantially. sometimes I swap out Way of martial knowledge for Bloodthorne for backbar to increase sustain on S&B bar.

Aside from PvP, in PvE I am able to tank any non-DLC dungeon while still putting out 20k single target...makes it ideal for solo questing. Tankiness+damage+PvP vialbility.

Sounds different, although I'd change illambris in Pvp for something more useful (as ppl will walk out of the effect).

Yes, for PvP Skoria is a better choice for sure.

Anne_Firehawk

5 Impregnable 5 Desert Rose 2 Skoria, all sturdy, 5L/1H/1M

You're welcome

murdomac101

what CP allocations are people using?

BaByDontHurtMe

I'm running in no CP campaign atm but may be you can adjust for CP:

3 heavy shacklebreaker body double sword and board, desert rose jewelry and 2 armor pieces, skoria heavy helm/shoulders

But because of "le Zerg" of event I'm laughing with Grothdarr kills (heavy helm/ heavy shoulders)

I run mostly solo or very small groups.

Hutch679

5 amberplasm, 5 sun, 2 skoria.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

5 Impregnable 5 Desert Rose 2 Skoria, all sturdy, 5L/1H/1M

You're welcome

How do you find it solo in CP campaigns is it tanky enough? With enough burst?

Anne_Firehawk

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

5 Impregnable 5 Desert Rose 2 Skoria, all sturdy, 5L/1H/1M

You're welcome

How do you find it solo in CP campaigns is it tanky enough? With enough burst?

Both, Tanky because you have a lot of Red CP to spend elsewhere and damage feels good with engulfing flames.

Nelson_Rebel

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

I use 5 sun 5 seducer as well

3 heavy armor (3 body seducer)
s&B (seducer)
3 sun Jewelry
Resto staff of Sun Backbar
2 Heavy Monster Piece Bloodspawn (ultimate uptime=great sustainability+survivability)


The rest is dependent on how you fight

3 heavy...so you end up with neither light nor heavy passives?

Read further on my post, i updated that my monstet set is 2 heavy pieces

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Some very nice ideas, thanks guys.

NBrookus

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

5 Impregnable 5 Desert Rose 2 Skoria, all sturdy, 5L/1H/1M

You're welcome

How do you find it solo in CP campaigns is it tanky enough? With enough burst?

That's my no CP build but it works fine in CP as well. Great sustain, good damage, a little squishy but not unreasonably so.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

NBrookus wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

5 Impregnable 5 Desert Rose 2 Skoria, all sturdy, 5L/1H/1M

You're welcome

How do you find it solo in CP campaigns is it tanky enough? With enough burst?

That's my no CP build but it works fine in CP as well. Great sustain, good damage, a little squishy but not unreasonably so.

Shame sturdy impregnable is virtually extinct

murdomac101

What race are most of your mDKs?

And are many ppl vamps?

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

NBrookus wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

5 Impregnable 5 Desert Rose 2 Skoria, all sturdy, 5L/1H/1M

You're welcome

How do you find it solo in CP campaigns is it tanky enough? With enough burst?

That's my no CP build but it works fine in CP as well. Great sustain, good damage, a little squishy but not unreasonably so.

Shame sturdy impregnable is virtually extinct

murdomac101 wrote: »

What race are most of your mDKs?

And are many ppl vamps?

Vampire -
I'd recommend vamp as would the majority of mag dks. Mist form is crucial and bats are a great back bar ultimate. The passsives are really good too.

Race - Many are usually Dark elfs (I am) as it's BiS for PVE on a mag dk and also very good in Pvp.... however for strictly Pvp I'd assume Breton would be great (tanky) as would high elf. Even Argonian would be very good in Pvp.

NBrookus

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

5 Impregnable 5 Desert Rose 2 Skoria, all sturdy, 5L/1H/1M

You're welcome

How do you find it solo in CP campaigns is it tanky enough? With enough burst?

That's my no CP build but it works fine in CP as well. Great sustain, good damage, a little squishy but not unreasonably so.

Shame sturdy impregnable is virtually extinct

Actually mine is 4 divines, 1 infused, tri-glyphs, ghastly eye bowl food and thief mundus; but I have two piece sturdy skoria. The traits were what I could find on short notice the night I decided to try it. All purple, except my 1H'ers. This is with CP and emp, but no scroll buffs or continuous attack. Could be better with gold gear, heavy chest + medium legs and I actually have one recovery glyph I keep forgetting to switch out for a 3rd spell damage.



I don't have stam issues and I am pretty close to permablock in this build. But I have 20% each in warlord, shadow ward and tumbling.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

NBrookus wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

5 Impregnable 5 Desert Rose 2 Skoria, all sturdy, 5L/1H/1M

You're welcome

How do you find it solo in CP campaigns is it tanky enough? With enough burst?

That's my no CP build but it works fine in CP as well. Great sustain, good damage, a little squishy but not unreasonably so.

Shame sturdy impregnable is virtually extinct

Actually mine is 4 divines, 1 infused, tri-glyphs, ghastly eye bowl food and thief mundus; but I have two piece sturdy skoria. The traits were what I could find on short notice the night I decided to try it. All purple, except my 1H'ers. This is with CP and emp, but no scroll buffs or continuous attack. Could be better with gold gear, heavy chest + medium legs and I actually have one recovery glyph I keep forgetting to switch out for a 3rd spell damage.



I don't have stam issues and I am pretty close to permablock in this build. But I have 20% each in warlord, shadow ward and tumbling.

Looks good, maybe I'll try some cheaper impregnable pieces (sturdy seems the best for it), thanks.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

@NBrookus just a thought but wouldn't seducer work better than desert rose? It would allow us to craft in sturdy too, 2x mag recovery is better than max health and spell res imo. Plus the 8% is nice too.
What do you think?

NBrookus

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

@NBrookus just a thought but wouldn't seducer work better than desert rose? It would allow us to craft in sturdy too, 2x mag recovery is better than max health and spell res imo. Plus the 8% is nice too.
What do you think?

I think Seducer is a fine set, especially for a starter set for someone not at CP cap or hasn't farmed/purchased gear yet. But I feel it is outperformed by desert rose, alteration mastery and shacklebreaker for a melee mDK. Desert Rose gives you ~600 regen untouched by siphoner. Alteration Mastery gives you 6% cost reduction on everything. Shacklebreaker gives you stamina so you can run witchmothers or blue food or go straight magicka enchants.

The spell resist on Desert Rose is a bit "meh" but the health bonus can be factored into your food choice or enchants to get where you want to be. Looks like this will be even easier to juggle next patch with the trait and mundus stone changes.

I like to sit at around 25k health with 2k crit resist, at least 2k spell damage and ~50% crit, 15k stamina. That's not enough damage to kill a shield stacking sorc, healplar or troll king DK/nightblade if the player is competent, properly equipped and, most importantly, doesn't panic; if you can make them panic they drain their resources. But they generally can't kill me either except the sorcs. It IS enough damage to kill a player locked into a Soul Assault channel and proc rage tells about it.

When I ran a full damage build with 52k magicka, I didn't feel like I got more kills because I was too squishy to survive their burst the 2 or 3 or more times they would have it up in their rotation while I was trying to grind them down. A "full damage" solo mDK is still pretty low damage compared to what other classes can do if they go all out, mostly because of the lack of execute. If you play with a tank, a yolo max magicka DK is certainly viable... I just usually end up being the tank among those I play with.

murdomac101 wrote: »

What race are most of your mDKs?

And are many ppl vamps?

Dunmer is probably the most common. Altmer and Argonian is also strong. Virtually every mDK in pvp is a vamp for mistform.

Anne_Firehawk

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

@NBrookus just a thought but wouldn't seducer work better than desert rose? It would allow us to craft in sturdy too, 2x mag recovery is better than max health and spell res imo. Plus the 8% is nice too.
What do you think?

The thing about DK, be it stamina or magicka, is that we rely on being hit hence why Fury works so well on Stam DK, same goes for Desert Rose on Magicka DK, it allows you to restore Magicka while in Mist.
By the way, I would always go for 8 Sturdy with Light Impregnable, it's broken how much you can block while having 2.5K Impen and ridiculous mitigation due CP - in Light Armor. And there's not gonna be a set to replace Impregnable anytime soon, might replace Desert Rose with Flame Blossom next Patch, who knows.

BaByDontHurtMe

I found this hype video for Flame Blossom, guy hyped it up so much while running around in it cracks me up

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KIrDb1jnOkg

Areloth

Right now I am running 5 shacklebreaker, 5 burning spellweave and 2 valkyn (6L, 1H)
Shaklebreaker allows you to use withmothers potent brew, which gives you a ton of magicka recovery, so you are able to run 3 spell damage glyphs.
With Update 15 I will exchange burning spellweave for flame blossom set.
Sword shacklebreaker in nirnhoned, resto backbar in powered.
Shield and boots in sturdy, rest impen.
Works really good.
Unbuffed spelldamage 2550
Unbuffed Recovery 1750
Max Magicka 41000

sevomd69

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

currently I'm running 5x Sun/5x BsW/2x Skoria ... might be a little squishy ( still can take a slight beating though ) but I'm surprisingly having a blast with this setup

My setup as well... but Grothdarr...

Ryanoxx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtQE_3TiLew&t=273s

thats what im planning to run

leepalmer95

Use a heavy and light build depending on what i'm feeling.

Skoria
Heavy seducer
sun

S&B/resto


Skoria
Bloodthorn
Sun

S&B/ resto