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[Exploit] I Can Still Gap-Close Into Keeps

Ch4mpTW
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Please fix this, ZOS. It is still incredibly easy to gap-close into keeps and outposts in Cyrodiil, and is something that players can take advantage of. If you want further information, I'll be more than happy to go into detail in a PM about what I know about it. All that I ask is that it hopefully can be patched in a timely fashion. I also can show you devs a few more malicious things that you can do in Cyrodiil, that aren't intended but can be exploited with relative ease. Once again, just let me know in a PM. And I'll be more than happy to spill everything I know to you all. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Side Note:
No, I will NOT teach anyone how to do it (outside of devs). Nor will I go on a spree of entering keeps that my alliance does not own. Why? Because I'd be a hypocrite in going about cheesing something, when I can always be seen ranting about how much people do nefarious things to gain an advantage in PvP. So all of you tryhards looking to know how can look elsewhere. I'm not teaching you squat.

Edit: Video removed. I'll give you the video link in a PM, once asked for it @ZOS.
  • andreasranasen
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    Do i smell a banned account? :trollface::heartbreak:
    Edited by andreasranasen on July 24, 2017 5:27PM
    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER
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    • Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
  • DivinityDay
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    Not these again, ugh I remember the ambush/dragonleap days.
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  • Beardimus
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    Someone in a group I was in did this earlier and seemed genuinely surprised, like thru chanced upon it. It's been a while

    Edit, oh no not like your vid. I mean the jump up the wall gig, like before
    Edited by Beardimus on July 24, 2017 5:30PM
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  • andreasranasen
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    If only sorcs could streak through walls :tired_face:
    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER
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    • Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
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    Ban ban ban ban
  • Unfadingsilence
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    That's been going on since the games been out
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Do i smell a banned account? :trollface::heartbreak:

    I hope not. I'm only trying to bring something to their attention quickly, which is why I made a thread rather than being the first to PM them. Things like this which get posted, rather than PM'd get hasty responses. So in me knowing this, hopefully mods will swarm this thread and take it down. From there I'll get a PM, and proceed to give all the info I have. Gotta think 2 steps ahead with ZOS, if you want things looked into that are serious. And this is very important and serious.

    Edit:
    If only sorcs could streak through walls :tired_face:

    You can streak through walls. That is another thing that I was planning on explaining once PM'd by the devs.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 24, 2017 5:33PM
  • andreasranasen
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Do i smell a banned account? :trollface::heartbreak:

    I hope not. I'm only trying to bring something to their attention quickly, which is why I made a thread rather than being the first to PM them. Things like this which get posted, rather than PM'd get hasty responses. So in me knowing this, hopefully mods will swarm this thread and take it down. From there I'll get a PM, and proceed to give all the info I have. Gotta think 2 steps ahead with ZOS, if you want things looked into that are serious. And this is very important and serious.

    Only joking ;) See ya in the battlefield.
    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER
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    • Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
  • 0utLaw
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    Nothing new.
    Leap, Chain, Ambush, Silver leash - choose yr weapon :trollface:
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Drop the video just in case . It doesn't show you getting out ASAP . Also could be showing people how to exploit .
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    This has been the go-to entrance for dragonknights since beta.

    Used to be able to solo take outposts by tab targeting the guards on the flag at sej,bleakers and nikel and leaping through.

    Any wall or door that can be broken down has a different mesh on them that allows you to pass through them. So if you can siege it, it can be passed through.

    You are not showing them anything that hasn't been shown to them 100s if not 1,000s of times before, I just don't think they have an actual way to fix it with their current staff/engine

    I would also take this down because you are legit showing yourself exploiting, which by all regards and their direct statements, should get you banned.

    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Drop the video just in case . It doesn't show you getting out ASAP . Also could be showing people how to exploit .

    Good idea. Just took it down.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Drop the video just in case . It doesn't show you getting out ASAP . Also could be showing people how to exploit .

    Good idea. Just took it down.

    Send a message to Brian Wheeler explaining what happened and how it was unintentional . That stupid bug got a lot of people banned instead of fixed . No warnings , just bans . It needs fixed so people don't get banned for a broken mechanic that unintentionally drags them in .

    If anyone ever does get dragged inside a castle with no breach they should get out immediately to avoid people reporting .
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Drop the video just in case . It doesn't show you getting out ASAP . Also could be showing people how to exploit .

    Good idea. Just took it down.

    Send a message to Brian Wheeler explaining what happened and how it was unintentional . That stupid bug got a lot of people banned instead of fixed . No warnings , just bans . It needs fixed so people don't get banned for a broken mechanic that unintentionally drags them in .

    If anyone ever does get dragged inside a castle with no breach they should get out immediately to avoid people reporting .

    Alright. I'll message him now, and attach the videos I have. Hopefully he actually checks his inbox and replies. ;_;
  • WuffyCerulei
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    For the love of the divines, don't ban this person cause they're pointing out an exploit they discovered. I have seen various people manage to get into keeps without keep walls being down, and I assume they're either doing this or having help from fellow faction members.
    For the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR
  • Stovahkiin
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    Yep this is still around. It happens mostly on my nightblade when I try to teleport strike onto someone and stop them from running back into their keep, but then *boop* I'm inside and we just have an awkward moment staring at eachother.
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    Yep this is still around. It happens mostly on my nightblade when I try to teleport strike onto someone and stop them from running back into their keep, but then *boop* I'm inside and we just have an awkward moment staring at eachother.

    Well, hopefully I hear back from Mr. Wheeler or from Gina or someone. And this can get patched ASAP. As I have said, I'll tell them everything I know.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 24, 2017 5:58PM
  • Danksta
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    Unfortunately ZoS idea to fix this issue is to make gap-closers even more unreliable. I'd rather it just be accepted as part of the game and have reliable gap-closers.
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  • ofSunhold
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    Yep this is still around. It happens mostly on my nightblade when I try to teleport strike onto someone and stop them from running back into their keep, but then *boop* I'm inside and we just have an awkward moment staring at eachother.

    Boop! :D

    Were we thinking they'd fixed this? I think people who have the know-how just refrain - eh, mostly - since it's such an obvious cheat and everybody in the world is streaming/recording in Cyro.
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
  • leepalmer95
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    Wait do people not know you can still do this?

    I can think of 2 ways off the top of my head that still work.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • MisterBigglesworth
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    If someone is running away from you, you're not allowed to gap close them to stop them from going through a keep door.
    Because in Cyrodiil we fight by Queensberry rules. :trollface:
    Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.
  • Nyladreas
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    So many people blindly admitting to have done this before lol.
  • Recremen
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    I crit rush through the main door of a keep a couple nights ago, I didn't even think that was possible. Wasn't this only a bug for teleport-style gapclosers??
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Wait do people not know you can still do this?

    I can think of 2 ways off the top of my head that still work.

    Of course they do the cheaters and exploiters know this and many more I am sure. One of the big problems with this game zos cannot or will not plug the holes.
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    Personally I enjoyed it back when DKs could leap into keeps, I mean using your ult to scale onto the walls and cause some havoc was pretty neat IMHO.
    "Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."

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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Wait do people not know you can still do this?

    I can think of 2 ways off the top of my head that still work.

    Of course they do the cheaters and exploiters know this and many more I am sure. One of the big problems with this game zos cannot or will not plug the holes.

    Whether or not it will get fixed, I have no idea. All I can do is bring awareness to it, and contact the staff of ZOS. You know? I can only do the right thing, and then hope for the best afterward. *shrugs.*
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 24, 2017 6:41PM
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    I will say it again, make the inside of a keep that has not been breached a death or health drain zone to enemy players.
    Will also stop the rash of players hiding after a keep flips ganking you in your own keep.
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    If anyone ever does get dragged inside a castle with no breach they should get out immediately to avoid people reporting .
    I've chased players and hit ambush (gap closer) to try and hit them before they passed through a door. Rarely, I end up on the wrong side of a door as a result. Far from being happy about it, I'm usually killed instantly by guards and players. So I don't consider this an exploit. It's more an "Oh crap, now I'm dead" moment for me.

    Leaving is not an option. You can't open doors to keeps you don't yet own.

    PS4NA
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    *Reported for being a spy
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    Personally, I wish there were ways into keeps like DAoC, but I cant say Id know how to balance it for eso besides a slow building/moving ladder that would have limited use and some announcement it is going up
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