PVP / Battlegrounds: MagWardens are broken.

mandricus

MagWardens are Broken. Here is an example.

https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw

most urgent issues:

1) Cliff racer needs to be dodgeable.
2) Ultimate cost needs to be increased.

Now that people are starting to understand how to properly play the magwarden in a battleground, things are becoming more and more frustrating. Everytime you enter a battleground and you see that there is a Warden on the other side, your only effective counter measure is to pray that he is not skilled enough.

When you fight with a build like this in a battleground, there is almost nothing you can do. 9 times out of 10 your entire team is going to die, don't matter how much you are skilled and how much damage you pull. They are almost unkillable.

MagWardens are broken in battlegrounds, period.

BraidasNM

10/10 troll post m8

KingYogi415

You can say this same thing about any top player playing any class.

NEXT!

Olupajmibanan

A youtube clickbait. You got me!

Comfortably_Buzzed

mandricus wrote: »

MagWardens are Broken. Here is an example.

https://youtu.be/ZZBIeyFA9Hw

most urgent issues:

1) Cliff racer needs to be dodgeable.
2) Ultimate cost needs to be increased.

Now that people are starting to understand how to properly play the magwarden in a battleground, things are becoming more and more frustrating. Everytime you enter a battleground and you see that there is a Warden on the other side, your only effective counter measure is to pray that he is not skilled enough.

When you fight with a build like this in a battleground, there is almost nothing you can do. 9 times out of 10 your entire team is going to die, don't matter how much you are skilled and how much damage you pull. They are almost unkillable.

MagWardens are broken in battlegrounds, period.

Early on in the video warden is feared and doesn't have the stam to CC break. There were so many opposing players around and none of them capitalized on it. If you can't exploit situations like that you're not going to be able to beat any half decent player.

Beardimus

They are strong for PvP, non CP in particular it seems.

It's true that any decent player makes any class look good but they certainly seem to stand out in BG

Waffennacht

incite

Wait i thought it was mag sorc and stam nb that stood out in bg?

Whats next?

Jawasa

That Guy plays a tank health build. All dmg is pretty much scoria or his team mate. He dont have cliff racer sloted.

Ariades_swe

Op is a sorc or nb trying to divert all the nerf threads these classes get. Sorc fine in bgs tho.

HeathenDeacon

troll thread
that warden build loooked horrible.
just another cant die, cant kill anything build that every class can make.

Zordrage

HeathenDeacon wrote: »

troll thread
that warden build loooked horrible.
just another cant die, cant kill anything build that every class can make.

yeah i switched to 1080p to see his HP

60k lol nothing to see here folks its just a build that cant die but also cant kill anything that has even the slightest understanding of the game....

cschwingeb14_ESO

The heal ulti cost IS too low, especially since one of the morphs returns ult. Other than that... Their easy access to necropotence is a bit too good

Waffennacht

It shows

1 Skoria alone can grab 26 kills
2 AoEs such as caltrops is a broken way to get massive Assist points

This however is only successful at this location, the other arenas have too many sections to force multiple players into AoEs.

I noticed the double slot of entropy for the max health first lol

This actually changed my opinion of skoria

Brutusmax1mus

This just looks like someone heavy attacking in between holding block and walking towards someone ontop of thier weak aoe. The occasional thicket, nothing impressive. He isn't even attacked for most of the fight.

What's this video trying to show? Imo a mag dk block tank is world's above this.

mandricus

Have a couple of battlegrounds with skilled MagWardens on the other teams, and let's talk about it.
Video is just an example, you can find tons of video of unkillable wartdens in Battleground dealing *** tons of damage.
They are almost unkillable, dealing an insane burst damage, able to spam ultimate as long as they want and have access to this *** cliff racer as a spammable skill that can't be avoided. It is just too much, they are OP as ***.

Maikon

mandricus wrote: »

Have a couple of battlegrounds with skilled MagWardens on the other teams, and let's talk about it.
Video is just an example, you can find tons of video of unkillable wartdens in Battleground dealing *** tons of damage.
They are almost unkillable, dealing an insane burst damage, able to spam ultimate as long as they want and have access to this *** cliff racer as a spammable skill that can't be avoided. It is just too much, they are OP as ***.

Again, block and shields work against it, so yes, it can be avoided to some degree.

And you will only see 1 good warden for every 100.

mandricus

That 1 in 100 will be an unkillable god. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that is easy. I'm saying that, in the right hands, MagWardens are the most OP class existing in the game at the moment for Battlegrounds
And let's be honest, this was quite expected. Every new class is OP at launch time. People were expecting it to be OP in PvE too, they found that they were not, so everyone happy? No, they just missed perspective, by several miles. Battlegrounds were the key feature of Morrowind, it was quite obvious that Wardens were designed to shine in Battlegrounds, not in PvE.
I can deal with that. I understand it, It's obvious from a business perspective, and I didn't complain about it until now.
But as time goes by, more and more people are starting to understand how to properly play a MagWarden, so this should trigger an alarm. it's time to nerf the OP class and to put them in line with the others. This is what happens in every MMORPG, and for this very reason I thinks that ZOS should now start reconsidering some decisions made designing this class.
At the moment, once you have figured out how to play a MagWarden properly, you can go whenever you want, kill whoever you want and basically nothing and nobody can stop you.

Maikon

mandricus wrote: »

That 1 in 100 will be an unkillable god. That's what i'm saying.
I'm not saying that is easy. I'm saying that, in the right hands, MagWardens are the most OP class existing in the game at the moment for Battlegrounds
And let's be honest, this was quite expected. It's ok, every new class is OP at launch time. I'm not complaining that much. But as time goes by, it's time to nerf the OP class and to put it in line with the others. This is what happens in every MMORPG, and for this very reason I thinks that ZOS should now start reconsidering some decisions made designing this class.
At the moment, once you have figured out how to play them properly, nobody can stop you.

If you come across an un-killable warden, then they are pure tank, you may not be able to kill them, but they can't kill *** either.

I run a magwarden in 6 light/1 hvy, i'm by no means un-killable, but I do have some survivability at the sacrifice of some damage.

If you came face to face with this guy from the bg, no you probably wouldn't kill him, but as I said, he sure as hell won't be able to kill you either.

Ariades_swe

Lol what a tool.

AAbrigo

Well.. The only broken thing I could see was 60k health and 1.9m dmg in bg deathmatch.. That is just ridiculous..