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So now hp regen is getting nerfed, and cloak isn't reliable; is there a reason not be be a vampire

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Being a vampire seems to be a no brainier next update.
Edited by Strider_Roshin on July 20, 2017 10:28PM
  • BraidasNM
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    Dawnbreaker is getting fixed.

    So you'll feel those 10k~ Dbs mid roll.

    yet youll take less dmg from it low health...and from everything else
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  • Paulington
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    In PvE it's just the fire damage. Even stage two or three can really hurt in places like Halls of Fabrication when the fire attacks are nearly one hits even without vampirism.

    Plus the obvious cosmetic drawbacks.
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    BraidasNM wrote: »
    Dawnbreaker is getting fixed.

    So you'll feel those 10k~ Dbs mid roll.

    yet youll take less dmg from it low health...and from everything else

    Does Undeath actually recalculate mid damage? Because Dawbreaker hits in a single go, it's not a DoT.
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    BraidasNM wrote: »
    Dawnbreaker is getting fixed.

    So you'll feel those 10k~ Dbs mid roll.

    yet youll take less dmg from it low health...and from everything else

    Does Undeath actually recalculate mid damage? Because Dawbreaker hits in a single go, it's not a DoT.

    Pretty sure it doesn't. It does have a nasty dot though.

    But yeah you can be like 80% and 1 dawnbreaker can bring you to execute range.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    BraidasNM wrote: »
    Dawnbreaker is getting fixed.

    So you'll feel those 10k~ Dbs mid roll.

    yet youll take less dmg from it low health...and from everything else

    Does Undeath actually recalculate mid damage? Because Dawbreaker hits in a single go, it's not a DoT.

    Dawnbreaker has a dot component for both morphs.
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  • BraidasNM
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    BraidasNM wrote: »
    Dawnbreaker is getting fixed.

    So you'll feel those 10k~ Dbs mid roll.

    yet youll take less dmg from it low health...and from everything else

    Does Undeath actually recalculate mid damage? Because Dawbreaker hits in a single go, it's not a DoT.

    well db is a dot, but no it cant recalculate the initial hit lol. it doesnt make sense if ur squishy and one db might kill u but otherwise the dmg mit is rlly strong.
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    BraidasNM wrote: »
    BraidasNM wrote: »
    Dawnbreaker is getting fixed.

    So you'll feel those 10k~ Dbs mid roll.

    yet youll take less dmg from it low health...and from everything else

    Does Undeath actually recalculate mid damage? Because Dawbreaker hits in a single go, it's not a DoT.

    well db is a dot, but no it cant recalculate the initial hit lol. it doesnt make sense if ur squishy and one db might kill u but otherwise the dmg mit is rlly strong.

    Most db's have like a 14-18k tooltip.
    Add on the 20% bonus
    Add on the fact your gonna take a dot tick which is usually 2-3k before you stand up

    DB's hurt, a lot of people have got used to not being hit by them this patch, theres gonna be so many 'nerf' db' threads next patch.
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  • TheUrbanWizard
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    How and how is regen getting nerfed?

    Have I missed something aswell?
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    Not really. Free resources, some resistance to executes, there is no real reason to not be a vampire. I wish the passives were more extreme. Harsher down sides, more interesting and unique positives, make people think twice about being a vampire.
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    Megabear wrote: »
    I can never be a vampire because cosmetic is end game. Putting on a helmet is
    Not really. Free resources, some resistance to executes, there is no real reason to not be a vampire. I wish the passives were more extreme. Harsher down sides, more interesting and unique positives, make people think twice about being a vampire.

    Uh, plenty of reason for me to NOT be a vampire. Face. My beautiful face.

    Any chance they'll sell a paper bag as a hat in the crown store? I may need one next update.
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    How and how is regen getting nerfed?

    Major and minor defile will affect health regen. The former is a 30% debuff, the latter 15%.
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    Paulington wrote: »
    In PvE it's just the fire damage. Even stage two or three can really hurt in places like Halls of Fabrication when the fire attacks are nearly one hits even without vampirism.

    Plus the obvious cosmetic drawbacks.

    ^ This, as long as you are playing a tank the weakness to fire will always have to be considered as a major downside. Yes you can negate this by going dunmar or putting fire resistance on jewelry, but it would be better to pick reduce block or a race with hp boost.
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    is there a reason not be be a vampire

    How bout the fact that they are Evil Bloodsuckers that should be put down on sight.
    Edited by StormWylf on July 21, 2017 12:50AM
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    Dawnbreaker is getting fixed.

    So you'll feel those 10k~ Dbs mid roll.

    Exactly why i run quick cloak and purge :)
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    Teridaxus wrote: »
    How and how is regen getting nerfed?

    Major and minor defile will affect health regen. The former is a 30% debuff, the latter 15%.

    Eh, true, but so many people are vampires now anyway, only really super HP regen stacking builds were not. And to be honest they did need a counter. Outside of stacking a crap ton of it in PvP it was the most useless stat in the game, guess its back to being that all around again.
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    1. Cosmetic. The Ruins of Mazzatun skin reward sort of hides it, but you need to have some quality PvE friends to get that.
    2. Dawnbreakers hurt. If your health is low enough for Undeath to save you, you're still likely stunned and getting hit with an animation canceled reverse slice next.
    3. Eye of the Storm.

    Now-a-days, my templar vamps pretty much for just Mist Form. Bats used to be really good, but it has no burst and is prolly better for tanking, at lest now. I do like the sneak, I won't toss away the 10% regen, and Undeath comes in handy, but I don't think it's worth it if you can get mobility somewhere else.
    It's sad the update ZOS devotes to performance improvements has degraded Cyrodiil to lows not seen since the Infamous "Lighting Patch"" of June 2014.

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    Teridaxus wrote: »
    How and how is regen getting nerfed?

    Major and minor defile will affect health regen. The former is a 30% debuff, the latter 15%.

    I don't care about health regen
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    How about the extra fire damage? That has always been the main reason not to be a vampire.

    Unless you need mistform, being a vampire in PvP will almost always be a bad tradeoff. Undeath is crap and in no way compensates for the extra damage taken.
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    Being a vampire seems to be a no brainier next update.

    Coz Werwolf is much cooler
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    Cause healers need you to be a vampire.
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  • Subversus
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    @Mangeli200194 no it's not... you smell like a wet dog all the time and you destroy your clothes every time you transform. Vampires are badass imo, masters of the shadow and all that - kinda like ninjas.
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    Subversus wrote: »
    Vampires are badass imo, masters of the shadow and all that - kinda like ninjas.

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