Odd number of Skyshards?

Oakclaw

I've completed all the skyshard achievements and I'm still sitting at 2/3 for my next skill point. Am I missing something or did they put an uneven number in that game?

Tasear

Get all ICP top and bottom?

BrightOblivion

Pretty sure you're missing one. Last I checked, there are 399 shards, which is divisible by 3. At least, that's what the skills menu says.

GreyWolf_79

I honestly don't think anyone did any math when calculating total number of skyshards. They just said "hey let's put X number of skyshards in this area." I think if you wait long enough, they'll end up releasing some new DLC with more randomly sporadically placed skyshards. And you'll still probably end up with 2/3. Until the next DLC.

Taleof2Cities

BrightOblivion wrote: »

Pretty sure you're missing one. Last I checked, there are 399 shards, which is divisible by 3. At least, that's what the skills menu says.

This is correct.

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

I honestly don't think anyone did any math when calculating total number of skyshards. They just said "hey let's put X number of skyshards in this area." I think if you wait long enough, they'll end up releasing some new DLC with more randomly sporadically placed skyshards. And you'll still probably end up with 2/3. Until the next DLC.

This is not correct.

GreyWolf_79

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

BrightOblivion wrote: »

Pretty sure you're missing one. Last I checked, there are 399 shards, which is divisible by 3. At least, that's what the skills menu says.

This is correct.

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

I honestly don't think anyone did any math when calculating total number of skyshards. They just said "hey let's put X number of skyshards in this area." I think if you wait long enough, they'll end up releasing some new DLC with more randomly sporadically placed skyshards. And you'll still probably end up with 2/3. Until the next DLC.

This is not correct.

Well my bad, then. I wasn't sure that they actually did any of the maths when creating new content, but apparently according to you, they do. In which case, I bow to your superior video game knowledge and proceed to make myself scarce.

Runschei

Did you do all DLC/Expansion areas?

Paulington

The number of skyshards in game is definitely divisible by three, somewhere along the line you have missed one. Check Cyrodiil, DLC zones, dungeons, etc.

starkerealm

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

BrightOblivion wrote: »

Pretty sure you're missing one. Last I checked, there are 399 shards, which is divisible by 3. At least, that's what the skills menu says.

This is correct.

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

I honestly don't think anyone did any math when calculating total number of skyshards. They just said "hey let's put X number of skyshards in this area." I think if you wait long enough, they'll end up releasing some new DLC with more randomly sporadically placed skyshards. And you'll still probably end up with 2/3. Until the next DLC.

This is not correct.

Well my bad, then. I wasn't sure that they actually did any of the maths when creating new content, but apparently according to you, they do. In which case, I bow to your superior video game knowledge and proceed to make myself scarce.

The Imperial City and Wrothgar have odd numbers. (13 and 17). But, when you clear both zones, that's 30, so you're back to a normal count. Each base game zone has 16, and there are 16 of those. So, 15/3 is 5... no issue there, Cold harbour has an odd skyshard. Cyrodiil has one unique one that's part of a separate achievement. So that's 2/3. And then you have the single skyshard in the Wailing Prison way back at the start of the game, which evens out.

Hew's Bane and Gold Coast both have six, and Morrowind has 18.

EDIT: The starter zones for each alliance have 6 total. The Covenant and Pact get 3 in two zones, the Dominion get 6 in Kenarthi's Roost.

So, yeah, when you add them all up, the count squares off. Usually the ones people forget are the last cyrodiil shard, or the wailing prison. Also, the wailing prison's shard isn't on any achievement lists, so if you go by that, it will look like you're short one.

Sigtric

FWIW there is an addon (I don't remember which) for PC that causes this skyshard display to bug out. If on PC you might do a reload UI and see if it is corrected.

Oakclaw

Runschei wrote: »

Did you do all DLC/Expansion areas?

This may be the case. I bet the skyshards are listed under that particular DLCs achievement section.

I'll have a look when I get home. Thanks

Bouldercleave

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

BrightOblivion wrote: »

Pretty sure you're missing one. Last I checked, there are 399 shards, which is divisible by 3. At least, that's what the skills menu says.

This is correct.

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

I honestly don't think anyone did any math when calculating total number of skyshards. They just said "hey let's put X number of skyshards in this area." I think if you wait long enough, they'll end up releasing some new DLC with more randomly sporadically placed skyshards. And you'll still probably end up with 2/3. Until the next DLC.

This is not correct.

And this statement is also correct.

GreyWolf_79

starkerealm wrote: »

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

BrightOblivion wrote: »

Pretty sure you're missing one. Last I checked, there are 399 shards, which is divisible by 3. At least, that's what the skills menu says.

This is correct.

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

I honestly don't think anyone did any math when calculating total number of skyshards. They just said "hey let's put X number of skyshards in this area." I think if you wait long enough, they'll end up releasing some new DLC with more randomly sporadically placed skyshards. And you'll still probably end up with 2/3. Until the next DLC.

This is not correct.

Well my bad, then. I wasn't sure that they actually did any of the maths when creating new content, but apparently according to you, they do. In which case, I bow to your superior video game knowledge and proceed to make myself scarce.

The Imperial City and Wrothgar have odd numbers. (13 and 17). But, when you clear both zones, that's 30, so you're back to a normal count. Each base game zone has 16, and there are 16 of those. So, 15/3 is 5... no issue there, Cold harbour has an odd skyshard. Cyrodiil has one unique one that's part of a separate achievement. So that's 2/3. And then you have the single skyshard in the Wailing Prison way back at the start of the game, which evens out.

Hew's Bane and Gold Coast both have six, and Morrowind has 18.

EDIT: The starter zones for each alliance have 6 total. The Covenant and Pact get 3 in two zones, the Dominion get 6 in Kenarthi's Roost.

So, yeah, when you add them all up, the count squares off. Usually the ones people forget are the last cyrodiil shard, or the wailing prison. Also, the wailing prison's shard isn't on any achievement lists, so if you go by that, it will look like you're short one.

You are correct. I made an erroneous assumption based on the fact that most base overland alliance zones have 16 skyshards, which is not divisible by 3. But when you consider that there are 3 alliance zones, the math does add up. I apologize. I was offering an uninformed opinion based on limited experience rather than concrete knowledge. I'm rather new to the game - with all the new zones they keep adding, I wasn't sure that they (the devs) were actually taking total wayshrine numbers into account.

Nestor

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

with all the new zones they keep adding, I wasn't sure that they (the devs) were actually taking total wayshrine numbers into account.

There are 16 Shards in Vvardenfell, so prior to this Chapter, it would have been an uneven amount. Since we are even now at 399 with the 16 just added.

Craglorn added 12, then Wrothgar added 17. When they added the other DLCs we got 6 for the two new zones. So they may want to be keeping an eye on the total, but sometimes they don't.

Ackwalan

Oakclaw wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Did you do all DLC/Expansion areas?

This may be the case. I bet the skyshards are listed under that particular DLCs achievement section.

I'll have a look when I get home. Thanks

Just a guess. I bet you missed the on in Cyrdill that is on top of the mountain. It is not listed for any of the alliances, if I remember correctly.

Nestor

Ackwalan wrote: »

Just a guess. I bet you missed the on in Cyrdill that is on top of the mountain. It is not listed for any of the alliances, if I remember correctly.

Probably, and its the only single skyshard that gives an achievement

Shardaxx

You're missing one.

GreyWolf_79

Nestor wrote: »

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

with all the new zones they keep adding, I wasn't sure that they (the devs) were actually taking total wayshrine numbers into account.

There are 16 Shards in Vvardenfell, so prior to this Chapter, it would have been an uneven amount. Since we are even now at 399 with the 16 just added.

Craglorn added 12, then Wrothgar added 17. When they added the other DLCs we got 6 for the two new zones. So they may want to be keeping an eye on the total, but sometimes they don't.

So I was half right. I assumed they were just adding skyshards with DLC without keeping track of the total numbers. One should never assume, of course. I apologize for assuming that the devs might not always pay attention to all the ways new changes might possibly affect overall gameplay.

Oakclaw

Ackwalan wrote: »

Oakclaw wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

Did you do all DLC/Expansion areas?

This may be the case. I bet the skyshards are listed under that particular DLCs achievement section.

I'll have a look when I get home. Thanks

Just a guess. I bet you missed the on in Cyrdill that is on top of the mountain. It is not listed for any of the alliances, if I remember correctly.

Actually, I have that one. I know because the achievement associated with it is under the same tab as all the others.

The DLCs, on the other hand, usually have their own achievement list and I didn't think to look there.

chris25602

So please explain to me how to get the skyshards in cyrodil...the ones sitting right on your oppositions home base, those 4. I am sitting at ~350 skyshards and don't really have any motivation to continue getting them all because I have no idea how the F you would get those 4.

SameMeteor26

Oakclaw wrote: »

I've completed all the skyshard achievements and I'm still sitting at 2/3 for my next skill point. Am I missing something or did they put an uneven number in that game?

How did you get the skyshards that are behind enemy territory in cyrodiil? Can't you physically not get the ones behind the other alliances gates?

SkorosMindkiller

You have to open the gate by taking the keep near the gate and the "middle" one. Then you can get past the gate and get the skyshard. Keep an eye on when someone's going to take the scroll, and you can get through the gate when the zerg heads for the scroll temple.

chris25602

so get lucky or be a pvp boss organizing the mayhem...awesome. without the snarkiness thx for the explainer.

Oakclaw

chris25602 wrote: »

so get lucky or be a pvp boss organizing the mayhem...awesome. without the snarkiness thx for the explainer.

It's really not that bad. Just keep checking your campaign throughout the day and eventually your faction will take the keeps required. Run past the guards and sneak your way to the skyshards.

SquareSausage

Oakclaw wrote: »

chris25602 wrote: »

so get lucky or be a pvp boss organizing the mayhem...awesome. without the snarkiness thx for the explainer.

It's really not that bad. Just keep checking your campaign throughout the day and eventually your faction will take the keeps required. Run past the guards and sneak your way to the skyshards.

Good luck getting in cyrodiil this week lol

zaria

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

BrightOblivion wrote: »

Pretty sure you're missing one. Last I checked, there are 399 shards, which is divisible by 3. At least, that's what the skills menu says.

This is correct.

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

I honestly don't think anyone did any math when calculating total number of skyshards. They just said "hey let's put X number of skyshards in this area." I think if you wait long enough, they'll end up releasing some new DLC with more randomly sporadically placed skyshards. And you'll still probably end up with 2/3. Until the next DLC.

This is not correct.

Well my bad, then. I wasn't sure that they actually did any of the maths when creating new content, but apparently according to you, they do. In which case, I bow to your superior video game knowledge and proceed to make myself scarce.

All main zones has the same number, and its divided by three. 6 on starting zones, 16 on regular.
Wortgar has 17 for some reason, so if you don't have it you will end up uneven.

http://tamrieljournal.com/eso-skyshard-location-map/
list all the locations.

starkerealm

Nestor wrote: »

GreyWolf_79 wrote: »

with all the new zones they keep adding, I wasn't sure that they (the devs) were actually taking total wayshrine numbers into account.

There are 16 Shards in Vvardenfell, so prior to this Chapter, it would have been an uneven amount. Since we are even now at 399 with the 16 just added.

Craglorn added 12, then Wrothgar added 17. When they added the other DLCs we got 6 for the two new zones. So they may want to be keeping an eye on the total, but sometimes they don't.

That's not right @Nestor. Source: my main had all the pre-Vvardenfell shards. The total was, I think, 381. Which is divisible by 3. Vvardenfell added 18 shards, not 16. So, still divisible by 3.

EDIT: You forgot that the Imperial City has 13. 12 of those are distributed fairly evenly. One in each district above, two in each faction's sections of the sewers. But, there's also a 13th in the middle of the sewers.

Enodoc

In case you need the numbers -> http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Skyshards

Nestor

starkerealm wrote: »

EDIT: You forgot that the Imperial City has 13. 12 of those are distributed fairly evenly. One in each district above, two in each faction's sections of the sewers. But, there's also a 13th in the middle of the sewers.[/i]

Yep, overlooked IC, that would have made it divisible by 3. Although I do think there was a time period after Wrothgar where we would be one short of a SP. You can't add 17 to any number that is divisible by 3 and have the sum be divisible by 3.