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Negates and eots

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Karm1cOne
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Running into a negate should end eots. This would allow a counter to zergball eots groups, besides get a bigger group.
  • Alucardo
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    Yes, or disallow the use of gap closing/streaking while it's active. This skill has literally zero counter if the caster is using immovable pots.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.
    PS4 NA DC
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.

    Make it just Eye of the Storm. PvE still has the other morph since bosses tend to stand in one spot anyway. Jeez you pve people crack me up. PvE can be balanced so easily yet in pvp its literally a mosh pit of issues.
    PS4 NA DC
  • cpuScientist
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    No let them stack just in PvP only give eye of the storm the process det treatment. aka it does it's full damage with "ins#" amount of players around. Tahdah it's a Zerg killing tool and not a Zerg tool
  • Drdeath20
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    Eye of the storm should damage teammates.
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.

    Make it just Eye of the Storm. PvE still has the other morph since bosses tend to stand in one spot anyway. Jeez you pve people crack me up. PvE can be balanced so easily yet in pvp its literally a mosh pit of issues.

    And this is exactly why people have been advocating splitting pve and pvp.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.

    Make it just Eye of the Storm. PvE still has the other morph since bosses tend to stand in one spot anyway. Jeez you pve people crack me up. PvE can be balanced so easily yet in pvp its literally a mosh pit of issues.

    And this is exactly why people have been advocating splitting pve and pvp.

    Zenimax has already plainly stated they wont, so anyone advocating for that is beating a dead horse. When it comes to balancing this game, its much easier to do pvp first then pve second since pve npc values can be changed easily to compensate for dps loss.
    PS4 NA DC
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.

    Make it just Eye of the Storm. PvE still has the other morph since bosses tend to stand in one spot anyway. Jeez you pve people crack me up. PvE can be balanced so easily yet in pvp its literally a mosh pit of issues.

    And this is exactly why people have been advocating splitting pve and pvp.

    Zenimax has already plainly stated they wont, so anyone advocating for that is beating a dead horse. When it comes to balancing this game, its much easier to do pvp first then pve second since pve npc values can be changed easily to compensate for dps loss.

    The only problem is, they have yet to do so. And it's not quite so simple when you begin to look at class skills and stamina vs magika balance.
  • Alucardo
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    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.

    Make it just Eye of the Storm. PvE still has the other morph since bosses tend to stand in one spot anyway. Jeez you pve people crack me up. PvE can be balanced so easily yet in pvp its literally a mosh pit of issues.

    And this is exactly why people have been advocating splitting pve and pvp.

    Zenimax has already plainly stated they wont, so anyone advocating for that is beating a dead horse. When it comes to balancing this game, its much easier to do pvp first then pve second since pve npc values can be changed easily to compensate for dps loss.

    Very true. In the case of EoTS though, all they have to do in pvp is let us negate and/or block it. This will also have zero baring on PVE anyway.
  • Karm1cOne
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    This is the crux of my post. It's a simple solution that has no affect on pve. Allow negates to be the balanced of serfs running multiple eots
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.

    Make it just Eye of the Storm. PvE still has the other morph since bosses tend to stand in one spot anyway. Jeez you pve people crack me up. PvE can be balanced so easily yet in pvp its literally a mosh pit of issues.

    And this is exactly why people have been advocating splitting pve and pvp.

    Zenimax has already plainly stated they wont, so anyone advocating for that is beating a dead horse. When it comes to balancing this game, its much easier to do pvp first then pve second since pve npc values can be changed easily to compensate for dps loss.

    Very true. In the case of EoTS though, all they have to do in pvp is let us negate and/or block it. This will also have zero baring on PVE anyway.

    I'd rather see EotS morph in particular be reverted to pts damage values. Same damage as bats but double duration. Instead of double damage of bats with same duration.
    PS4 NA DC
  • Karm1cOne
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    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.

    Make it just Eye of the Storm. PvE still has the other morph since bosses tend to stand in one spot anyway. Jeez you pve people crack me up. PvE can be balanced so easily yet in pvp its literally a mosh pit of issues.

    And this is exactly why people have been advocating splitting pve and pvp.

    Zenimax has already plainly stated they wont, so anyone advocating for that is beating a dead horse. When it comes to balancing this game, its much easier to do pvp first then pve second since pve npc values can be changed easily to compensate for dps loss.

    Very true. In the case of EoTS though, all they have to do in pvp is let us negate and/or block it. This will also have zero baring on PVE anyway.

    I'd rather see EotS morph in particular be reverted to pts damage values. Same damage as bats but double duration. Instead of double damage of bats with same duration.

    There can be solutions that don't include nerfing to the ground. That should be a last case solution.
  • Morgul667
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    While today Eots is too strong, Magicka users need some perks,

    I do think Eots should be fixed but not nerfed to the ground.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Karm1cOne wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Just make it so you cant stack eots. Bam eots is fixed. Then you'll see more ultimate variety.

    That would be lame. Then we would have people arguing about who uses which ultimate and if this non stackabilty was on the other morph too then all magika dps in pve would be screwed.

    Make it just Eye of the Storm. PvE still has the other morph since bosses tend to stand in one spot anyway. Jeez you pve people crack me up. PvE can be balanced so easily yet in pvp its literally a mosh pit of issues.

    And this is exactly why people have been advocating splitting pve and pvp.

    Zenimax has already plainly stated they wont, so anyone advocating for that is beating a dead horse. When it comes to balancing this game, its much easier to do pvp first then pve second since pve npc values can be changed easily to compensate for dps loss.

    Very true. In the case of EoTS though, all they have to do in pvp is let us negate and/or block it. This will also have zero baring on PVE anyway.

    I'd rather see EotS morph in particular be reverted to pts damage values. Same damage as bats but double duration. Instead of double damage of bats with same duration.

    There can be solutions that don't include nerfing to the ground. That should be a last case solution.

    This solution doesnt nerf anything. All is does is make the damage happen over a longer period of time. PvE dps stays the same.

    Pvp group play would be buffed since you already stack 2-4 already with the longer duration. All this does is punish the solo players who think they can just jump into a zerg and wipe everyone without any thought.
    PS4 NA DC
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