The Gold Road Chapter – which includes the Scribing system – and Update 42 is now available to test on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/656454/
Campaign adjustments for the next PC & Console incremental update
ZOS_BrianWheeler
PvP & Combat Lead
Hey gang!
We are going to be closing the Almalexia (7 day No-CP) Campaign and opening Shor, a new 7-day CP enabled campaign on all platforms. This will occur on the maintenance of July 10th (PC) and the July patch for consoles. Players assigned to Almalexia will be given free home reassignments and any leaderboard rewards will be granted if the campaign is mid-duration when shut down just as if it had completed naturally.
Thank you for continuing the battle in Cyrodiil!
-Wheeler
We are going to be closing the Almalexia (7 day No-CP) Campaign and opening Shor, a new 7-day CP enabled campaign on all platforms. This will occur on the maintenance of July 10th (PC) and the July patch for consoles. Players assigned to Almalexia will be given free home reassignments and any leaderboard rewards will be granted if the campaign is mid-duration when shut down just as if it had completed naturally.
Thank you for continuing the battle in Cyrodiil!
-Wheeler
Wheeler
ESO PVP Lead & Combat Lead
ESO PVP Lead & Combat Lead
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✭✭✭✭✭That's great news,Thanks Brian!Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche3 -
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✭✭✭Huzzah!!7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.1 -
craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭what is the reason for getting rid of 7 day no cp ? just out of interest, ive played in no cp pvp for a while now and prefer this over cp, yes the numbers are not as high but the battles are good for the players that are there.Born, Bred & Made in Manchester UK, RIP 22 Angels. 22/05/2017
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Some are born here, some drawn here but we all call it home
And they’ve covered the cobbles, but they’ll never defeat
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✭✭✭✭In all seriousness, it's pretty cool that you listened to the overwhelming community feedback on this.
Or saw the insanely low population in almalexia. Either way.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub11 -
Scyantific✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, someone probably complained about the DR/Chill Bros group that farmed the emperor trading groups in Almalexia NA PC on Monday night.
We turned Chapman into an AD/DC meat-grinder with 8-10 people.
Either way, inb4 Shor becomes Haderus 3.0, just another emp-swapping campaign.
Edit: Thanks for shutting down the only other campaign that EP/AD could go to for small-scale noCP fighting when the DC super-zerg rolls over the map in Sotha. /sarcasm
(It wouldn't be so bad if BGs actually worked and didn't devolve into organized pre-mades vs PuGs)Edited by Scyantific on July 5, 2017 1:37PM0 -
Nermy✭✭✭✭✭Thanks Brian!!
@Nermy
Ex-Leader of The Wabbajack [EU EP PvP guild - Now stood down from active duty]BLOOD FOR THE PACT!!!
Nermden - EP Warden, Nerm-in'a'tor - EP Dragon Knight, N'erm - EP Sorcerer, D'arkness - EP Nightblade, Nermy - EP Templar
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ZOS_BrianWheelerPvP & Combat LeadPopulation of queue and the wait time in the queue for Vivec vs. the active population of Almalexia over the course of pre-launch to recent weeks along with feedback on these very forums informed this decision.Wheeler
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✭Great move! Thanks Brian.PERTH, AUSTRALIA | PC | NA | @Aussie-Elders
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✭✭✭✭✭craftycarper73 wrote: »what is the reason for getting rid of 7 day no cp ? just out of interest, ive played in no cp pvp for a while now and prefer this over cp, yes the numbers are not as high but the battles are good for the players that are there.
Plenty of people prefer non-CP campaigns (on PC at least) but the great majority still prefer CP, and almost nobody wanted the short duration non-CP option. The prime time result was a moderately populated 30 day non-CP, a huge queue on the 30 day CP, and an almost dead 7 day non-CP, with a handful of PvE'ers and emp farmers.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche8 -
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✭✭ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »Population of queue and the wait time in the queue for Vivec vs. the active population of Almalexia over the course of pre-launch to recent weeks along with feedback on these very forums informed this decision.
Thank you
Though 1 more CP enabled campaign will be very good.
Please consider adding 1 more 30 days CP enabled campaign.
My estimation is that even with the addition of Shor, the long queue for Vivec will remain almost unchanged.
Most players prefer the 30 days version.Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
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✭craftycarper73 wrote: »what is the reason for getting rid of 7 day no cp ? just out of interest, ive played in no cp pvp for a while now and prefer this over cp, yes the numbers are not as high but the battles are good for the players that are there.
You'll still have Sotha Sil.0 -
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✭ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »Population of queue and the wait time in the queue for Vivec vs. the active population of Almalexia over the course of pre-launch to recent weeks along with feedback on these very forums informed this decision.
I can guarantee you that within 2 weeks, Shor will be like Haderus was pre-Morrowind. Just 1 or 2 guilds trading emp over and over, with the occasional group coming in to farm those guys.3 -
D0RID0RI240✭✭✭✭B...b...but where will I farm emp now? I was just getting familiar with the 6 hr emp cycle and gonna level an AD toon and....
ZOS, y u do dis? How is that one guy gonna get leaderboard rewards on all three factions now?
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Nermy✭✭✭✭✭Scyantific wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »Population of queue and the wait time in the queue for Vivec vs. the active population of Almalexia over the course of pre-launch to recent weeks along with feedback on these very forums informed this decision.
I can guarantee you that within 2 weeks, Shor will be like Haderus was pre-Morrowind. Just 1 or 2 guilds trading emp over and over, with the occasional group coming in to farm those guys.
Pessimist!@Nermy
Ex-Leader of The Wabbajack [EU EP PvP guild - Now stood down from active duty]BLOOD FOR THE PACT!!!
Nermden - EP Warden, Nerm-in'a'tor - EP Dragon Knight, N'erm - EP Sorcerer, D'arkness - EP Nightblade, Nermy - EP Templar
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✭✭✭✭✭Scyantific wrote: »ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »Population of queue and the wait time in the queue for Vivec vs. the active population of Almalexia over the course of pre-launch to recent weeks along with feedback on these very forums informed this decision.
I can guarantee you that within 2 weeks, Shor will be like Haderus was pre-Morrowind. Just 1 or 2 guilds trading emp over and over, with the occasional group coming in to farm those guys.
Any DC emp farming guilds for Shor? I'm asking for idle curiosity, and in no way because I want the title for my Warden without having to put in the effort
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
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✭✭✭✭ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »Population of queue and the wait time in the queue for Vivec vs. the active population of Almalexia over the course of pre-launch to recent weeks along with feedback on these very forums informed this decision.
Thank you
Though 1 more CP enabled campaign will be very good.
Please consider adding 1 more 30 days CP enabled campaign.
My estimation is that even with the addition of Shor, the long queue for Vivec will remain almost unchanged.
Most players prefer the 30 days version.
If Shor became a 30 day campaign that'd be fine by me -- might even cut down on emp farming -- but PC NA just doesn't have the population to support three 30 days camps, a 7 day and the non-vet camp.
The guilds that care about scoring and such will be unlikely to move from Vivec where they compete with each other. What Vivec didn't need was trying to shoehorn the former Haderus players into that campaign too.
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✭What Haderus players? You talking about the ones that would jump into Haddy to face the dominating faction-zerg while the TF queue popped? Or the ones from Azura's that would jump in to farm said dominating faction because they were getting faction zerged at any single Azura's resource?
Haderus was straight up on life-support since probably Dark Brotherhood, that ain't gonna change with Shor on Monday.1 -
LarsS✭✭✭✭✭Thanks Brian!
Now you also need to do some changes to the campaigns so it is wort fighting for and that the wins are not due to night capping. There is lots of good suggestions on the forum you could test.GM for The Daggerfall Authority EU PC0 -
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✭✭Thank you @ZOS_BrianWheelerFormerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
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Asgari | NB
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Ariana Kishi | DK | True Liberator of Haderus
Banner Down!
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✭✭✭✭✭Anyone that moans ZOS doesn't listen or review feedback on forums can just hush now.
Personally id have preferred the 30 day no CP to shut, and have a place for small scale no CP to dabble etc. And playing seems more worthwhile on a 7 dayer.
Great that they listen, shame players didn't give no CP a chance however
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Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
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Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
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✭ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »Population of queue and the wait time in the queue for Vivec vs. the active population of Almalexia over the course of pre-launch to recent weeks along with feedback on these very forums informed this decision.
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✭ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »Population of queue and the wait time in the queue for Vivec vs. the active population of Almalexia over the course of pre-launch to recent weeks along with feedback on these very forums informed this decision.
Well there be any changes for Xbox, since there is already a CP-enabled Shor campaign on that platform?0 -
leighdelo✭✭✭Thank you! The wait times for Vivec on PS4 have been AWFUL!Leighdelo (pronounced LEE-deh-lo)
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✭✭✭✭✭Anyone that moans ZOS doesn't listen or review feedback on forums can just hush now.
Personally id have preferred the 30 day no CP to shut, and have a place for small scale no CP to dabble etc. And playing seems more worthwhile on a 7 dayer.
Great that they listen, shame players didn't give no CP a chance however
I don't think many people say that Brian doesn't listen to the player base. He has engaged in back-and-forth dialogue with us several times over the years, and has spent the time to explain decisions that we've (sometimes vehemently) disagreed with.
In fact, despite pvp being one of the buggiest parts of ESO, the player base is more supportive of Brian than of Wrobel and Rich, who are seen as being responsible for decisions that make Cyrodiil worse.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche4 -
ZOS_BrianWheelerPvP & Combat LeadDiscussions are still happening about Xbox as population from Almalexia could fold into Sotha, Shor and Vivec without the need to open a new campaign. I'll keep you all posted though.Edited by ZOS_BrianWheeler on July 5, 2017 3:26PMWheeler
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