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I hate House Telvanni! ZOS, I need a quest to slay all of them!
VinyParsley2016
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Eoki and Sun in Shadow is a totally sad story! I hate House Telvanni! I want to kill them one by one! ZOS, you must add a quest in next patch.
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Wing✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I hate them just because there all stuck up snobs, almost every one of the houses is based around a sin and then just uses that as a base to build from. its so bad they have legal assassin guilds to off one another.
compared to literally every other race I probably hate dark elf culture the most.
aside from the one telvanni wizard messing with the dwarven sonic device and collecting eggs, he was cool, I would totally adventure with him.ESO player since beta.
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KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭They should add slaves to housing so I can have a collection of Telvanni and Dres Dunmer work some fields for me.
I'd buy itIf you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name]. -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well.. -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us... -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever. -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Argonians shouldn't talk back to their dunmer masters -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Argonians shouldn't talk back to their dunmer masters
Not that it does matter but I main and palyed several Nords for over 5k hours. Welcome to ignore list. -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭All you can do is to be against all forms of slavery, both in games or irl, just like me. Slavery is the only concept I am 100% against.
@Enslaved Exclusively slavery? Absolutely nothing else, not murder, or war, or genocide, or four-letter-word-beggining-with-R-that-is-bleeped, or animal abuse ranging anywhere from "keeping pets"(PETA level) to the mass raising and slaughtering an entire species(tasty, tasty species), not psychological abuse/manipulation, domestic violence...
I find myself thinking that you are either A ) Deeply personally disturbed on this topic, B ) Trolling, or C ) In possession of a very... interesting moral compass.
Cheers.Edited by KochDerDamonen on June 19, 2017 6:29AMIf you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name]. -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭KochDerDamonen wrote: »All you can do is to be against all forms of slavery, both in games or irl, just like me. Slavery is the only concept I am 100% against.
@Enslaved Exclusively slavery? Absolutely nothing else, not murder, or war, or genocide, or four-letter-word-beggining-with-R-that-is-bleeped, or animal abuse ranging anywhere from "keeping pets"(PETA level) to the mass raising and slaughtering an entire species(tasty, tasty species), not psychological abuse/manipulation, domestic violence...
I find myself thinking that you are either A ) Deeply personally disturbed on this topic, B ) Trolling, or C ) In possession of a very... interesting moral compass.
Cheers.
If you must know, on scale 1-10, slavery is 10 for me, while things you wrote are about 9. -
Artis✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Argonians aren't humans though. They have tails and stuff, and reproduce with eggs. They are different biological species, not just a different race. Or are you giving your speeches everywhere where people are using animals irl - farms, zoos, circuses, etc. -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Argonians aren't humans though. They have tails and stuff, and reproduce with eggs. They are different biological species, not just a different race. Or are you giving your speeches everywhere where people are using animals irl - farms, zoos, circuses, etc.
Elves are not humans as well. And if you dislike speeches, add me to ignore. -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Argonians aren't humans though. They have tails and stuff, and reproduce with eggs. They are different biological species, not just a different race. Or are you giving your speeches everywhere where people are using animals irl - farms, zoos, circuses, etc.
I'm more concerned that the joke flew straight over his head -
HEXENWOLF✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Whoa...
You know that we're playing a game, right? Yes, slavery is bad. But it's an interesting concept to explore - especially in an entirely fictional world. And though I don't consider myself a role-player, I currently have an Argonian trapped in a cage in my dark elf's home. Because my character is evil. Because I can pretend to be someone evil because I know that pretending to be something doesn't make me that thing in my real life. Honestly... I thought I got immersed in my MMOs but if I was criticizing everything anyone did in this game just for laughs or perspective, I think I'd need a daily Valium.
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Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Whoa...
You know that we're playing a game, right? Yes, slavery is bad. But it's an interesting concept to explore - especially in an entirely fictional world. And though I don't consider myself a role-player, I currently have an Argonian trapped in a cage in my dark elf's home. Because my character is evil. Because I can pretend to be someone evil because I know that pretending to be something doesn't make me that thing in my real life. Honestly... I thought I got immersed in my MMOs but if I was criticizing everything anyone did in this game just for laughs or perspective, I think I'd need a daily Valium.
Some guys rolleplayed as white dressed white folk running around and killing Redguards with fire based spells. Maybe they just saw that as "an interesting concept to explore". Guess what - they got their accounts banned. -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Whoa...
You know that we're playing a game, right? Yes, slavery is bad. But it's an interesting concept to explore - especially in an entirely fictional world. And though I don't consider myself a role-player, I currently have an Argonian trapped in a cage in my dark elf's home. Because my character is evil. Because I can pretend to be someone evil because I know that pretending to be something doesn't make me that thing in my real life. Honestly... I thought I got immersed in my MMOs but if I was criticizing everything anyone did in this game just for laughs or perspective, I think I'd need a daily Valium.
Some guys rolleplayed as white dressed white folk running around and killing Redguards with fire based spells. Maybe they just saw that as "an interesting concept to explore". Guess what - they got their accounts banned.
...for making references to realworld political organizations and egging on racial discussions, repeatedly. No one gets banned for exploring in-universe slavery. Many Dunmer-mains on the forums like to remind us every day
If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name]. -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KochDerDamonen wrote: »Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Whoa...
You know that we're playing a game, right? Yes, slavery is bad. But it's an interesting concept to explore - especially in an entirely fictional world. And though I don't consider myself a role-player, I currently have an Argonian trapped in a cage in my dark elf's home. Because my character is evil. Because I can pretend to be someone evil because I know that pretending to be something doesn't make me that thing in my real life. Honestly... I thought I got immersed in my MMOs but if I was criticizing everything anyone did in this game just for laughs or perspective, I think I'd need a daily Valium.
Some guys rolleplayed as white dressed white folk running around and killing Redguards with fire based spells. Maybe they just saw that as "an interesting concept to explore". Guess what - they got their accounts banned.
...for making references to realworld political organizations and egging on racial discussions, repeatedly. No one gets banned for exploring in-universe slavery. Many Dunmer-mains on the forums like to remind us every day
This -
Volsunga✭✭✭Can't stand people flaming and provocating another with non sense and off-topic stuff. And yet they still feel entitled to question someone else morality, right, keep it up... troll people and burry this thread.
Pretending being roleplaying and acting is a pitiful excuse. Anyone would know this is not the right place to do so and we can't force other to accept our acting.
Back to the topic,
I dislike Telvanni, but as I do dislike the dunmer houses and the tribunal as well. They all are the same for me and I wish we could stand against. But hey, it's a mmo, has to be linear I guess.Hi Lore adept, wanna burn your eyes with us through the Elder Scrolls knowledge, then come join us on TESLore Reddit !
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HEXENWOLF✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Whoa...
You know that we're playing a game, right? Yes, slavery is bad. But it's an interesting concept to explore - especially in an entirely fictional world. And though I don't consider myself a role-player, I currently have an Argonian trapped in a cage in my dark elf's home. Because my character is evil. Because I can pretend to be someone evil because I know that pretending to be something doesn't make me that thing in my real life. Honestly... I thought I got immersed in my MMOs but if I was criticizing everything anyone did in this game just for laughs or perspective, I think I'd need a daily Valium.
Some guys rolleplayed as white dressed white folk running around and killing Redguards with fire based spells. Maybe they just saw that as "an interesting concept to explore". Guess what - they got their accounts banned.
Yes, because they're creating a parody of what most consider to be a horrific period of history. But don't lump a KK* parody in with Argonian hatred. One is a real world problem, which you're minimizing by comparing it to fictional art.Edited by HEXENWOLF on June 19, 2017 7:16AM -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
One thing is to be a servant and be payed for that, other thing is to be a FKKEN slave and live in slave pen. Once you grow up a bit, you might understand. Oh, well..
Oh, a argonian/argonian sympathyzer is lectering us...
Please, cut the crap and gtfo.
I am tired of your petty bs. If you support slavery, you are a sad being irl. This is not about Saxhleel folk only, this is about all slaves, no matter the race. I hate bretons but also set one breton slave from her master on all of my 14 characters. Slavery is worst concept ever.
Whoa...
You know that we're playing a game, right? Yes, slavery is bad. But it's an interesting concept to explore - especially in an entirely fictional world. And though I don't consider myself a role-player, I currently have an Argonian trapped in a cage in my dark elf's home. Because my character is evil. Because I can pretend to be someone evil because I know that pretending to be something doesn't make me that thing in my real life. Honestly... I thought I got immersed in my MMOs but if I was criticizing everything anyone did in this game just for laughs or perspective, I think I'd need a daily Valium.
Some guys rolleplayed as white dressed white folk running around and killing Redguards with fire based spells. Maybe they just saw that as "an interesting concept to explore". Guess what - they got their accounts banned.
Probably why I rarely see anyone wear the Black Hand Robe on Ps4 now...
"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad." -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I hate them just because there all stuck up snobs, almost every one of the houses is based around a sin and then just uses that as a base to build from. its so bad they have legal assassin guilds to off one another.
compared to literally every other race I probably hate dark elf culture the most.
aside from the one telvanni wizard messing with the dwarven sonic device and collecting eggs, he was cool, I would totally adventure with him.
o: Are you me? I thought I haven't posted in this thread yet...
That's exactly what I think about the bunch of them
Well, in addition to the crazy but cute dunmer you mention(forgot his name), there's also Naryu(I'm not as crazily in love with her as some of the playerbase but she's not bad for a dunmer and seems free of a lot of the prejudice her people hold. Perhaps being an assassin requires a more open mind in a way lol) and the Scarlet Judge or whatever his name was, he's really cool, heaps of respect for the guy. ...maybe he's a half blood or something?xD Doesn't act like a dunmer in the least haha.
I really do wish we could generally side against the Tribunal though. -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I hate them just because there all stuck up snobs, almost every one of the houses is based around a sin and then just uses that as a base to build from. its so bad they have legal assassin guilds to off one another.
compared to literally every other race I probably hate dark elf culture the most.
aside from the one telvanni wizard messing with the dwarven sonic device and collecting eggs, he was cool, I would totally adventure with him.
o: Are you me? I thought I haven't posted in this thread yet...
That's exactly what I think about the bunch of them
Well, in addition to the crazy but cute dunmer you mention(forgot his name), there's also Naryu(I'm not as crazily in love with her as some of the playerbase but she's not bad for a dunmer and seems free of a lot of the prejudice her people hold. Perhaps being an assassin requires a more open mind in a way lol) and the Scarlet Judge or whatever his name was, he's really cool, heaps of respect for the guy. ...maybe he's a half blood or something?xD Doesn't act like a dunmer in the least haha.
I really do wish we could generally side against the Tribunal though.
^this. So much. And I say this as an EP player. But I'll admit my perceptions have been colored by the events of the original Morrowind game and the Tribunal expansion."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad." -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sentient trees create a race of biological automatons to serve them. Some mages figure out a way to get them to serve them instead.
Where is the crime?
There's a BIG difference between mutual symbiosis, and forced labor under threat of death. If you can't see that line, there's a problem here.CP1,200+ Master Explorer - AvA Praetorian - Console Peasant -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭And I want an option to join them as a vicious, slave-keeping dunmer. You must add a quest in the next update.
On a more serious note, I think it's bad RP to being forced to take a anti-slavery, anti-assassins stance throughout the whole telvanni quests. -
Bringer✭✭✭mutual symbiosis
Argonians are basic animals that would live out lives as animals with the same basic intelegence of any other animal if not for hist mind control.
You might claim that its alright for them to be slaves to the will of the hist in return for being given personalities and awareness. I for one am not entierly sold on the idea that they are in fact aware and its not all some ruse by the hist, but even assuming they are, they gain from the hist only the ability to be conscious in their own enslavement.
Meanwhile under the care of the dunmer, one has even risen to a position of power! Truly the telvanni way, while harsh, is just and fair.
