No Cp is super frustrating and no fun!

Dr.NRG

ZOS Please stop with with this no cp stuff! It is super boring as you cant really make unique builds anymore and because it forces less skilled gamers to put on super cheesy set ups. It is frustrating! 80% of ppl are against no cp! Look at all them new no cp campaigs they are empty (at least on console). Fix what's important like getting rid of proc set in pvp or by nerfing em.
Most ppl want to het rid of procs and poisons and keep cp. Why do you do exactly the oposite by getting rid of cp and encouraging ppl to run procs and poisons?? Can someone pls clarify that logic to me? Its beyond me:(
Dont say its for low cp gamers so they can enjoy the game cause that is a easy fix! Keep 1 no cp campaign where thay can go untill they high cp and give a option to go into no cp battlegrounds.

Ohh btw guess what! Ppl Zerg even more now in no cp cause they dont know how to play without it.
Lose lose situation ZOS everyone loses! It does not have to be that way! Pvp used to be super fun when we had no procs no poisons but still cp.

Morgul667

I like no CP more, it is quite dynamic and siege weapons are more usefull.

dpencil1

I've been playing BGs a bunch and must say I like no CP at least in that environment more. Haven't been to Cyrodiil since Morrowind dropped.

Qbiken

CP feels more balance after Morrowind IMO. In no-cp and battlegrounds a procset combo = instant Death (or at least a huge part of your HP is RIP).

Juhasow

dpencil1 wrote: »

I've been playing BGs a bunch and must say I like no CP at least in that environment more. Haven't been to Cyrodiil since Morrowind dropped.

How can You tell You like no CP enviroment in battlegrounds more if there isnt CP battleground enviroment to compare ?...

Beardimus

I think it's better in PvP, builds are less ridiculous now which was there goal.

Derra

Beardimus wrote: »

I think it's better in PvP, builds are less ridiculous now which was there goal.

Viper, Selene/Tumorscale + X likes to have a word with you.

PenguinInACan

Derra wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

I think it's better in PvP, builds are less ridiculous now which was there goal.

Viper, Selene/Tumorscale + X likes to have a word with you.

If noCP is what it takes to highlight the broken things i feel like it's worth it to tough it out. We've had a lot worse on the broken scale that makes proc sets look tame....and even then it took months to "fix"

Ragnaroek93

I would really like to know how many of the people who hype no CP pvp actually play without proc sets or troll king.

MagnusRex

Morgul667 wrote: »

I like no CP more, it is quite dynamic and siege weapons are more usefull.

Siege weapons (especially coldfire) are wayyy too strong..... if you get anywhere close to a keep you have to dodge siege 24/7 instead of being able to actually play...

Arthg

I only play nonCP Cyro (haven't bought Morrowind), mostly solo.

I've taught myself to play without either poisons, proc sets (Selene, Tremor, Viper and the likes) or TK, and to stay out of the red circles (fire ballistas hit for 4k, cold fire, 8k).

I feel I have improved considerably in terms of resource management, situational awareness and skill rotation.

I'm enjoying my playstyle tremendously.

I'm a passionate contender that noCP PvP is fun

Yuke

I play a stamina Warden in no-CP bgs. Its beyond everything ive seen so far in terms of cheese.

Im sitting in my 75 costs Ult, 10 seconds HOT, without healing counter accessibility. Throw my Volley and run in circles until Red-Mountain has killed everything.

If i struggle i still have viper and trollking for backup.

We need CP BGs.

Kay1

Beardimus wrote: »

I think it's better in PvP, builds are less ridiculous now which was there goal.

This is the biggest issue here, this guy right here probably never went to no CP, neither CP PvP and he's talking about something he don't know acting like he does, then Zenimax see this and they think everything is fine.

You call people running 3 proc sets less ridiculous? You realize proc sets are *** in CP PvP due to the mitigation, heals and build diversity due to the CP system? What about you stop spreading false information and you go in no CP for a day, I can afford paying 10k gold for every guy you see without proc sets and poisons, please go ahead and show us all how no cp is less ridiculous, because doing a light attack for 21k damage is not ridiculous at all, is the balance from Wrobel's eyes.

Drakkdjinn

Only if you're used to playing with CP training wheels OP.

Easymode off.

Joy_Division

Morgul667 wrote: »

I like no CP more, it is quite dynamic and siege weapons are more usefull.

More useful is certainly a way to put it. As are proc sets, resource poisons, and classes with strong resource managment. They are more useful as well.

I would like a campaign where gear, imbalanced classes, and left-click siege heroes are less useful, but that's just my personal preference

Trashkan

I strongly disagree with the o.p. Non champ point PvP is awesome and has opened up doors to a lot of new and old builds and make them viable again. For instance Magika dk in light armor can actually do enough damage to burn through everyone's super heals. Cp campaign is so annoying how everyone can tank heal and burst dps it's just ridiculous. To those who believe it limits builds it's because you run into nothing but viper and selene proc and we all know viper is bugged as hell. The proc hits before the base dmg is even applied.

magictucktuck

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

I would really like to know how many of the people who hype no CP pvp actually play without proc sets or troll king.

Im 1, I Play with agility and spriggans and mismatched monster helm. and im on no CP

Jawasa

So you say it opens up for more builds but then every1 runs viper selen because it's the strongest you can run?

Most people use the same builds in CP and no CP just switching mundus/ enchants. But procs are less potent or did i miss something?

I myself only play in no cp because of bg's and friends.

Trashkan

I play a mag dk enough so I don't have to explain why I don't use selenes and viper cause I don't as for my build it's a secret I think everyone should keep to themselves a little bit more. All I run into are the same setups mostly nightblades in battlegrounds but when we roll our 4 man squad groups that run that viper selenes crap get wrecked. It's only o.p in those 2v2 or 1v1 or 1v2 battles.

ManDraKE

NoCP was way better last patch. This patch is awful, as a stam player you have to invest so much in sustain that you are almost forced to run procs. I played nonCP with 0 procs last patch and it was way better.

Artis

I agree OP. No idea why people were asking for it and who thinks it's more fun. At least weren't getting oneshotted all the time before morrowind.

It's like zos never played their BG and doesn't see what procs and stamina in general can do.

Dr.NRG

They should give us at least 1 cp option for BG and soon theyd see that no one will go no cp anymore

Derra

Dr.NRG wrote: »

They should give us at least 1 cp option for BG and soon theyd see that no one will go no cp anymore

I don´t disagree, but simply looking at the leaderboards there are probably not enough players trying to play at this point for two different modes (yay for 4 weeks of broken groupqueue at primetime).

I don´t think after the CP changes nonCP should exist at all anymore. It´s less balanced than CP is at this point and lowCP players should simply receive a fullCP pvp template.

Trashkan

Can you imagine a cp death match it would always hit the time limit because everyone is a healer dps and tank in cp pvp.

Strider_Roshin

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

I would really like to know how many of the people who hype no CP pvp actually play without proc sets or troll king.

Troll King in no CP is garbage actually because your healing is so weak you can't recover in order to benefit it. I play no proc, and yeah no CP PvP is absolute trash.

fastolfv_ESO

OP you wont find love of anything CP related on the forums, in game theres a tiny grp doing no cp but the forum warriors here would make you think otherwise. If they added cp battlegrounds i would actually find it much easier to kill heavy tanky builds and perma block templar healers just because of that silly cp passive reducing regen from light and heavy attacks, few ppl heavy real fast burst and boom tankiest do nothing builds down. I wouls love to see cp bgs and how balanced/not balanced they can be, cause right now the whole everyone plays stam with proc sets is an old issue just returning from a lack of balance and will only kill bgs quicker

DeadlyRecluse

I play noProc PvP and don't find it frustrating or no fun.

/shrug.

lostavalon

I was Playing on non cp campaigns pre morrowind was having a lots fun, but going into no cp bg's with how op proc sets are atm has turned me off playing in there,
I keep giving it a go each day but I just give up in fustration cause one skill procs 2-3 mindless free dmg sets and is pretty much a one shot

apostate9

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

I would really like to know how many of the people who hype no CP pvp actually play without proc sets or troll king.

I do.

DisgracefulMind

Qbiken wrote: »

CP feels more balance after Morrowind IMO. In no-cp and battlegrounds a procset combo = instant Death (or at least a huge part of your HP is RIP).

I agree completely. CP feels WAY more balanced than no-CP this patch. The proc sets + poisons are absolutely unreal in no-CP PvP at the moment. Due to losing the cost reduction CP, I think CP PvP has become way more balanced. There are a lot of things to still be worked on, but this patch's CP PvP is a really good step in the right direction.

Dr.NRG

It is getting that bad that magicka builds slap on stam proc sets aready like red mountain force pulse combos and others its way outta hand:(