C.O.D. fee refund

ScytheNL

This pisses me off. I get there is a COD fee, but why don't I get that back if the "buyer"was trolling me?

I was selling Psijic Ambrosia Recipe for 110K, this guy said COD it to me, and add the COD fee. So I did, COD'ed it to him for 116K, 110K for the recipe and 6K COD fee.

Then he doesn't pick up his item, so after three days it's returned to me, but I lost 6K on a troll. Why can't the COD fee be refunded if the article isn't picked up?

Skjoldur

ScytheNL wrote: »

This pisses me off. I get there is a COD fee, but why don't I get that back if the "buyer"was trolling me?

I was selling Psijic Ambrosia Recipe for 110K, this guy said COD it to me, and add the COD fee. So I did, COD'ed it to him for 116K, 110K for the recipe and 6K COD fee.

Then he doesn't pick up his item, so after three days it's returned to me, but I lost 6K on a troll. Why can't the COD fee be refunded if the article isn't picked up?

In the real world you might even end up paying for the return delivery. ;-)

Beardimus

Have you contacted them to ask? Might have been a change of mind or found it cheaper

They might be oblivious to the fee.

Not a Troll action for certain is all i mean

Khenarthi

Did he agree to pay the COD fee? It could be why the other player did not accept your COD, maybe he expected to pay 110k and not 116k.

I do agree that if the COD email does not get accepted, you should get the refund for the postage. It's all virtual anyway.

Merlin13KAGL

Everything, fee included gets returned to you, even the 'postage.'

Everything.

EDIT: The way it may seem it doesn't get returned is if your inventory is full at the time. It will still add the returned gold, all of it, to your total, but the item will remain attached until you have an open spot.

COD only charges a fee if the item is actually delivered.

idk

Heck, be glad it was returned to you in 3 days. I think it used to be 30 days if they did not accept it or return it.

ScytheNL

Skjoldur wrote: »

ScytheNL wrote: »

This pisses me off. I get there is a COD fee, but why don't I get that back if the "buyer"was trolling me?

I was selling Psijic Ambrosia Recipe for 110K, this guy said COD it to me, and add the COD fee. So I did, COD'ed it to him for 116K, 110K for the recipe and 6K COD fee.

Then he doesn't pick up his item, so after three days it's returned to me, but I lost 6K on a troll. Why can't the COD fee be refunded if the article isn't picked up?

In the real world you might even end up paying for the return delivery. ;-)

This isn't the real world. I wouldn't have to pay 6000 euros to send a paper with a recipe on it in the real world.

ScytheNL

Khenarthi wrote: »

Did he agree to pay the COD fee? It could be why the other player did not accept your COD, maybe he expected to pay 110k and not 116k.

I do agree that if the COD email does not get accepted, you should get the refund for the postage. It's all virtual anyway.

He's the one that suggested I add the fee to the price

ScytheNL

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Everything, fee included gets returned to you, even the 'postage.'

Everything.

EDIT: The way it may seem it doesn't get returned is if your inventory is full at the time. It will still add the returned gold, all of it, to your total, but the item will remain attached until you have an open spot.

COD only charges a fee if the item is actually delivered.

Is that true??? I was told the fee would not be refunded... If it is, than I have no complaints and this topic is pointless

ScytheNL

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Heck, be glad it was returned to you in 3 days. I think it used to be 30 days if they did not accept it or return it.

It's not returned yet, I thought it was 3 days

Megabear

Do what I do. Don't buy or sell no guild trader, no cod, no manual trade, pure and simple.

QuebraRegra

wtf is there a COD "fee"? what is ZOS doing, hoarding gold?

SirAndy

ScytheNL wrote: »

I was selling Psijic Ambrosia Recipe for 110K

Have the prices gone up again? Those were down to 50k-60k not too long ago ...

Smmokkee

When people don't pay me over cod on an agreed upon price I'll message them and ask what's up? I usually give them a few hours. If after a few hours still nothing I split wall repair kits into a single item and cod them for 100g until I get my items back..

This works EVERY SINGLE time.

Rinmaethodain

ZOS could fix this in a very simple way.

The COD fee should not be paid by sender as a part of postage fee. When sending item sender would still pay a small postage fee, its 10 gold or even less if I recall?

The COD fee itself should be paid separately by buyer who receives the mail. Just as now, when they open a mail they are asked "are you sure you want to pay X gold for " (and in no way they are informed that Y part of it is a postage fee while buyer gets only Z part of it) with this change, when seller asks 10k gold for item, he pays only small postage fee but its the buyer who upon attempting to loot items from mail will be asked to pay 10537g and will be informed"10k of payment to seller and 537g of postage fee".

Thats it, no more COD trolling, no more fake postage fee where buyer charges 2 times more than normal, no more figuring out how much to put in COD to get your gold (because its not 5% of the price, its 5% of the current value put in COD fee or more precisely 10 gold + 1 gold every 20 gold of COD fee).

Inb4 someone posts "but people will start to decline COD mails if it costs more than item price since not everyone knows how much COD fee is" - well then its about time to learn about cod fee. Sellers are paying it since ever, time for buyers to realise its existence.

And at the same time ZOS could make it it so COD fee actually would be now a flat 5% instead of current hocus pocus recursive formula.

kargen27

Smmokkee wrote: »

When people don't pay me over cod on an agreed upon price I'll message them and ask what's up? I usually give them a few hours. If after a few hours still nothing I split wall repair kits into a single item and cod them for 100g until I get my items back..

This works EVERY SINGLE time.

Be careful with that. Someone thought it would be funny to send a friend a bunch of lockpicks one at a time on his birthday. ZoS saw it as a spam attack or something even though it wasn't reported and turns out the sender trolled themselves.

Bouldercleave

Megabear wrote: »

Do what I do. Don't buy or sell no guild trader, no cod, no manual trade, pure and simple.

I like this idea, but it definitely is not a get rich quick scheme.

IcyDeadPeople

QuebraRegra wrote: »

wtf is there a COD "fee"? what is ZOS doing, hoarding gold?

They need it to pay the NPC salaries

ScytheNL

SirAndy wrote: »

ScytheNL wrote: »

I was selling Psijic Ambrosia Recipe for 110K

Have the prices gone up again? Those were down to 50k-60k not too long ago ...

ESO Price Check lists it as 175K gold...

Unfadingsilence

ScytheNL wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

ScytheNL wrote: »

I was selling Psijic Ambrosia Recipe for 110K

Have the prices gone up again? Those were down to 50k-60k not too long ago ...

ESO Price Check lists it as 175K gold...

He might be on Xbox or ps4 since that's the going rate for them on there

ScytheNL

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

ScytheNL wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

ScytheNL wrote: »

I was selling Psijic Ambrosia Recipe for 110K

Have the prices gone up again? Those were down to 50k-60k not too long ago ...

ESO Price Check lists it as 175K gold...

He might be on Xbox or ps4 since that's the going rate for them on there

I'm on Xbox as well. As far as I can tell 110K is spot on for Xbox

ScytheNL

Good news though, turns out it wasn't a troll, he returned the item yesterday with an apology, and I DID get my COD fee back so I was mistaking on that mechanic, luckily

Unfadingsilence

ScytheNL wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

ScytheNL wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

ScytheNL wrote: »

I was selling Psijic Ambrosia Recipe for 110K

Have the prices gone up again? Those were down to 50k-60k not too long ago ...

ESO Price Check lists it as 175K gold...

He might be on Xbox or ps4 since that's the going rate for them on there

I'm on Xbox as well. As far as I can tell 110K is spot on for Xbox

Well I have 5 on Xbox right now if you want to buy them for 100k each

Unfadingsilence

Cuz they been sitting in my guild trader for 15 days at 70k and still nothing

ScytheNL

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Cuz they been sitting in my guild trader for 15 days at 70k and still nothing

Not me, but I was told yesterday by different people that 100/110 was a good price

ScytheNL

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Cuz they been sitting in my guild trader for 15 days at 70k and still nothing

Where is your trader?

F7sus4

COD fee should be refunded when the mail is returned.
COD should last 24h or 72h (3 days) max. Unpicked mail with unpaid item being stuck there simply sucks.

ScytheNL

F7sus4 wrote: »

COD fee should be refunded when the mail is returned.
COD should last 24h or 72h (3 days) max. Unpicked mail with unpaid item being stuck there simply sucks.

It was returned, luckily.

MLGProPlayer

COD sucks. People use it to troll all the time.

Face to face is generally better, if you're careful.

But the best method is just using guild trader.

Blkadr

I don't get the point of postage for virtual mailings... someone please explain this to me. I'm being serious.

MLGProPlayer

Blkadr wrote: »

I don't get the point of postage for virtual mailings... someone please explain this to me. I'm being serious.

Gold sink