Templar cancer build

Dk_needs_a_buff

Hi guys i just faught 2 guys. In duels. Both had same health so probs using same sets.
If i was buffed or unbuffed if i crit or disnt crit id only dmg for 3475. I have 28k spell resistance and they could burst me down almost instantly. Why is yhis still possible?

Waffennacht

If your crit was Uber small - probably impregnable set cuz it's awesome

Heh yeah ZoS likes it's sets

Dk_needs_a_buff

But why did my dawnbreaker dizzying swing and heavy attack always hit for that though?

Waffennacht

Well 3475 is roughly around 8-10k tooltip which I'm guessing is what your abilities read - meaning your crits are being completely negated (which is now possible thanks to impregnable)

DB DS ad heavy all do about the same DMG, that's why they're all landing for about the same.

Sounds like heavy armor with impregnable, probably about 4kish Impenetrable

The other set is unknown, probably something like those 400ish + DMG sets

Dk_needs_a_buff

My tooltip for dawnbreaker and dizzying swing is 17.4k. Hendidnt runnout of magic either . Wasnt this patch supposed to get rid of cancer tank dps?

Waffennacht

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

My tooltip for dawnbreaker and dizzying swing is 17.4k. Hendidnt runnout of magic either . Wasnt this patch supposed to get rid of cancer tank dps?

Ok now we can really figure things out. So 8.7 in PvP and he is taking 4kish, that's a ton of prevention, any idea if pirate Skele was involved? Then minor protection from channel, then I think we are close.

I think they had access to major protection

Stamicka

Lol, I know exactly who this is it you're on Xbox NA because I dueled them too. Somehow they are in heavy armor, not running a resto Staff and still keeping their resources and on top of all that, they have amazing damage. I've also seen perma block heavy armor magdks do this too, this patch clearly missed some much needed changes, or there's a set that's overperforming. Definitely not balanced.

Dk_needs_a_buff

Im on ps4 bro. Pirate skele was not involved. No monster set

br0steen

Sounda like they just blocked and you didn't

Hutch679

This patch made the tank DPS even stronger. Now they just stack all resource regen instead of damage and use proc sets.

Waffennacht

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

Im on ps4 bro. Pirate skele was not involved. No monster set

Then it had to be blocking. They mitigated over 50 percent DMG, it could have been the SnB ult?

Brutusmax1mus

Waffennacht wrote: »

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

Im on ps4 bro. Pirate skele was not involved. No monster set

Then it had to be blocking. They mitigated over 50 percent DMG, it could have been the SnB ult?

Wouldn't blocking be a much higher mitigation though? Plus you would notice if they were blocking.

Op, where you going them while they were cc'd? If so reactive could have been involved.

My guess is impregnable armor with spinners or Soulshine.

Brutusmax1mus

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

Im on ps4 bro. Pirate skele was not involved. No monster set

Then it had to be blocking. They mitigated over 50 percent DMG, it could have been the SnB ult?

Wouldn't blocking be a much higher mitigation though? Plus you would notice if they were blocking.

Op, where you going them while they were cc'd? If so reactive could have been involved.

My guess is impregnable armor with spinners or Soulshine.

Also, if you reapply purifying light before it ends, the stored damage applies to the refreshed 6 second timer. With a maxed purifying light, jabs, vampires bane tick, burning light proc into radiant you can kill someone with great burst with out having insane spell/wpn damage. You could even throw in an eclipse instead of vamps bane that would let you add more burst. That combo for me does (on average) 10k, 6k, 1.5k, 2.5k plus execute. If you're a swishy build good luck. And that's being very conservative on the jabs damage. I've crit light armor with my build for 3.4k per jab.

DeHei

16,7k against a tanky Templar, wo reduce the tital damage with some skills can reduce the Damage to 3475..
Battlespiritreduce the damage to 50% allready and your hit just do allready 8,45k Damage. With a bit tanky setup you can reduce this restdamage more then 50% again and so i dont wonder that you hit with less then 1/4 of the damage you could see in tooltip..

Waffennacht

DeHei wrote: »

16,7k against a tanky Templar, wo reduce the tital damage with some skills can reduce the Damage to 3475..
Battlespiritreduce the damage to 50% allready and your hit just do allready 8,45k Damage. With a bit tanky setup you can reduce this restdamage more then 50% again and so i dont wonder that you hit with less then 1/4 of the damage you could see in tooltip..

To get thatuch mitigation without reactive etc you'll have to invest a LOT and then the question becomes how did they hit so hard?

Guarantee OP has around 10k penetration, meaning unless they are running Pariah, they aren't getting max resistance. Meaning, outside of minor protection the temps has to be running a mitigation set (or reactive, pirate, or SnB)

Block would be visible, but not mentioned by OP.

It's fun trying to solve mysteries

Dk_needs_a_buff

I understand he was a extreamly tanky templar and thats fair enough. He still had unlimited sustain and huge burst dmg. Crit or non crit on it was always the exact number. When i was buffed or unbuffed

Brutusmax1mus

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

I understand he was a extreamly tanky templar and thats fair enough. He still had unlimited sustain and huge burst dmg. Crit or non crit on it was always the exact number. When i was buffed or unbuffed

What skills were in your death recap? Bc templars can line up some outstanding burst, although for some reason many don't think we can.

You said the crits and not crits were hitting the same, did you see the transmutation buff on?

Jawasa

Desert rosen and impregnable in 7 heavy maybe?

akray21

Jawasa wrote: »

Desert rosen and impregnable in 7 heavy maybe?

Or... 5 Impreg on the body, 5 Wizard Reposte on SB bar, 2 Pirate Skelton.

akray21

Double post

GreenSoup2HoT

Hutch679 wrote: »

This patch made the tank DPS even stronger. Now they just stack all resource regen instead of damage and use proc sets.

We really need procs to scale off weapon/spell damage. No max stats either because tanks generally stack max stats.

Jawasa

akray21 wrote: »

Jawasa wrote: »

Desert rosen and impregnable in 7 heavy maybe?

Or... 5 Impreg on the body, 5 Wizard Reposte on SB bar, 2 Pirate Skelton.

But you have zero sustain in that build or if regen glyphs then zero dmg instead. Dont think you get insane burst in My set up but if op runs medium you can kill him in a pol burst.

Dk_needs_a_buff

There was no transmutation bufg. He jabbed me twice and a quick half a second jesus beam.

Dk_needs_a_buff

I mean 2 times he used the jab ability

Dk_needs_a_buff

And also guys i can confirm he was not blocking. Even when he was knocked down on the floor. Crit or non crit it was still 3475 eavrytime

Akinos

Jawasa wrote: »

akray21 wrote: »

Jawasa wrote: »

Desert rosen and impregnable in 7 heavy maybe?

Or... 5 Impreg on the body, 5 Wizard Reposte on SB bar, 2 Pirate Skelton.

But you have zero sustain in that build or if regen glyphs then zero dmg instead. Dont think you get insane burst in My set up but if op runs medium you can kill him in a pol burst.

Not true at all. I run 5 impreg, 5 wizards and with valkyns. Still have 2k regen and enough spell pen+spell damage to put people down rather fast.


Not everybody is wearing 5 impreg heavy

Jawasa

It Sounds a bit hyperbole tbh. Some1 is super tanky takes no dmg sustain forever and then kills you in 2 jabbs. So he jabbs you for 10k please show me a video or death recap or i dont see How it's possible unless you have *** CP placment.

Akinos

Jawasa wrote: »

It Sounds a bit hyperbole tbh. Some1 is super tanky takes no dmg sustain forever and then kills you in 2 jabbs. So he jabbs you for 10k please show me a video or death recap or i dont see How it's possible unless you have *** CP placment.

The OP is known to complain and exaggerate often imo, judging by past thread/post history.

But to be honest if he got killed in two sweeps it's probably because of poor CP allocation.

I often shred squishy ganky guilds in 2 or 3 sweeps also...pro tip: put some points into thick skinned.

Brutusmax1mus

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

I mean 2 times he used the jab ability

My jabs crit medium armor, in duels with cp, for at least 2k each on medium non impregnable builds. So let's say i get lucky and crit 3 of the 4 on both and they both proc burning light.
7.5k 7.5k 2.5k 2.5k. 20k dmg with out radiant oppression or other damage from vamps or purifying light. I'm digging all the medium armor builds around actually.

Jawasa

@Brutusmax1mus op is running 28k resistance.

akray21

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

I mean 2 times he used the jab ability

My jabs crit medium armor, in duels with cp, for at least 2k each on medium non impregnable builds. So let's say i get lucky and crit 3 of the 4 on both and they both proc burning light.
7.5k 7.5k 2.5k 2.5k. 20k dmg with out radiant oppression or other damage from vamps or purifying light. I'm digging all the medium armor builds around actually.

In medium armor I pretty much get wrecked by anyone who is able to CC me.