A nord styled trial with a dragon as boss

Teridaxus

Dragons are not complety gone or rather sleeping in this time frame.
They just more rare than a daedric artifact or a friendly altmer.

They could even use an existing one since we can't permanently kill them off as non dragon born.

Teridaxus

Other

I would be okay with one at some point, but i would prefer if zos focus on the lesser visited places like blackmarch or elsweyr.

Enslaved

Yes

Teridaxus wrote: »

Dragons are not complety gone or rather sleeping in this time frame.
They just more rare than a daedric artifact or a friendly altmer.

They could even use an existing one since we can't permanently kill them off as non dragon born.

If one day Zos add western Skyrim to ESO, I can see something like that done in Labyrinthian, and that dragon you speak off could indeed be the one we encounter in TES V Skyrim as a skeletal one. A trial mixed with humans/draugrs, ice wraths, trolls, dragon cultists and dragon priests - 10/10 in my book.

ZunaRoath

No

No thank you.

The titans are enough for me. But a Nord trial, sure, I would love it as all my characters are Nords. No dragons though, maybe a dragon priest would be much cooler.

Iluvrien

No

No thanks. Nord styled anything annoys me at the moment.

After encountering wall-to-wall Nords for the last few years thanks to Skyrim and the Skyrim remaster... I'm done. Enough.

No. More. Stinky. Nords.

LadyNalcarya

No

I'd prefer to see something new.
I mean, TES lore is so rich and varied, and there's a lot of things we never had a chance to see, so I wont be too excited if they would just reuse TES5 themes.

Enslaved

Yes

Iluvrien wrote: »

No thanks. Nord styled anything annoys me at the moment.

After encountering wall-to-wall Nords for the last few years thanks to Skyrim and the Skyrim remaster... I'm done. Enough.

No. More. Stinky. Nords.

As if anyone would force you to do that particular trial.

Rinmaethodain

Yes

A dragon you say?

Iluvrien

No

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

No thanks. Nord styled anything annoys me at the moment.

After encountering wall-to-wall Nords for the last few years thanks to Skyrim and the Skyrim remaster... I'm done. Enough.

No. More. Stinky. Nords.

As if anyone would force you to do that particular trial.

Of course nobody would, but how about having a trial based on a culture that hasn't already had massive exposure relatively recently?

theher0not

Other

Maybe not a real dragon(since they are not alive in Tamriel at this point in time).

But I would like to see some dragon-like boss (maybe a daedra that looks like a dragon).

Vipstaakki

No

Dragons in ESO are lore breaking.

sdtlc

No

Dragonbreak and stuff

Nelson_Rebel

Yes

Vipstaakki wrote: »

Dragons in ESO are lore breaking.

No they aren't?

There are several alive right now, just in hiding,

Re read your lore. How else do you think Tiber Septim as dragonborn killed dragons and had some as allies 1000 years or so from now?

Numinex, Paarthurnax, the dragon under stros Mkai, etc... There are almost 2 dozen known dragons (from lore) still alive

Enslaved

Yes

Iluvrien wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

No thanks. Nord styled anything annoys me at the moment.

After encountering wall-to-wall Nords for the last few years thanks to Skyrim and the Skyrim remaster... I'm done. Enough.

No. More. Stinky. Nords.

As if anyone would force you to do that particular trial.

Of course nobody would, but how about having a trial based on a culture that hasn't already had massive exposure relatively recently?

Lets see. We have Redguard trials. Khajiit trial. And Dwemer trial. Its time for Nords.

Dracindo

No

Like you said, dragons are a rare creature in this timeline, why would you kill them?

Yes, dragons can somehow be added to this game, lore-boys.

starkerealm

No

I mean, so far as it goes, a trial would be about the only appropriate place to have the players going after a dragon.

To be clear, I'm not entirely opposed to content related to a dragon at some point. I'm just opposed to it turning into "just another boss fight."

LadyNalcarya

No

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

No thanks. Nord styled anything annoys me at the moment.

After encountering wall-to-wall Nords for the last few years thanks to Skyrim and the Skyrim remaster... I'm done. Enough.

No. More. Stinky. Nords.

As if anyone would force you to do that particular trial.

Of course nobody would, but how about having a trial based on a culture that hasn't already had massive exposure relatively recently?

Lets see. We have Redguard trials. Khajiit trial. And Dwemer trial. Its time for Nords.

Lets see. We have DC trials, then AD trial and EP trial (cause Sotha Sil is a dunmeri god, hes not a dwemer), how does that mean that we need one more EP trial?

Seraphayel

There are two Nord dungeons coming (most likely in Q3/17), isn't that enough?

starkerealm

No

Seraphayel wrote: »

There are two Nord dungeons coming (most likely in Q3/17), isn't that enough?

It's never enough. Until we can make Rigurt The Brash, Thane of Whiterun. Either that or a bear. I'm kinda pulling for the bear, personally.

Chilly-McFreeze

No

Weren't people on the fence at the morrowind expansion for re-using old, already seen stuff and all?

starkerealm

No

Enslaved wrote: »

Teridaxus wrote: »

Dragons are not complety gone or rather sleeping in this time frame.
They just more rare than a daedric artifact or a friendly altmer.

They could even use an existing one since we can't permanently kill them off as non dragon born.

If one day Zos add western Skyrim to ESO, I can see something like that done in Labyrinthian, and that dragon you speak off could indeed be the one we encounter in TES V Skyrim as a skeletal one. A trial mixed with humans/draugrs, ice wraths, trolls, dragon cultists and dragon priests - 10/10 in my book.

The problem for me, with this, is... it's kinda expected.

I mean, there's a serious dose of nostalgia seeping in with ESO. Part of what makes The Imperial City work is seeing the city from Oblivion, in flames. Vvardenfell is, at times, pure fan service. Windhelm and Riften are, again, just straight up call backs to Skyrim. It's not that these places aren't supposed to be there, or that reusing them is automatically fan-service, but weaponized nostalgia is a critical part of the game. Even Stros M'kai throws in some random nods saying, "hey, do you remember Redguard?"

But, there's a fine line between, "hey, I've been here before, and seen this place, and it's so cool to be back," and, "I've done this before." Rehashing the College quest in Labyrinthian would be far more of the latter than the former.

HatchetHaro

Yes

As long as it's lore-friendly. I think that's the main reason people are against it, really; they think that dragons can only exist in TESV: Skyrim.

Enslaved

Yes

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

No thanks. Nord styled anything annoys me at the moment.

After encountering wall-to-wall Nords for the last few years thanks to Skyrim and the Skyrim remaster... I'm done. Enough.

No. More. Stinky. Nords.

As if anyone would force you to do that particular trial.

Of course nobody would, but how about having a trial based on a culture that hasn't already had massive exposure relatively recently?

Lets see. We have Redguard trials. Khajiit trial. And Dwemer trial. Its time for Nords.

Lets see. We have DC trials, then AD trial and EP trial (cause Sotha Sil is a dunmeri god, hes not a dwemer), how does that mean that we need one more EP trial?

Well, L2C (learn to count)

We have 3 DC trials. One AD trial, and one Dwemer based trial. Even if you count that Dwemer trial as EP one, why would it be a problem to have another EP trial? Also, do not forget that we have single player arena in DC zone, and group arena in DC zone as well.

Darlgon

Dragons are sleeping for the next 5000 years... SHHHHH.

JKorr

No

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

Vipstaakki wrote: »

Dragons in ESO are lore breaking.

No they aren't?

There are several alive right now, just in hiding,

Re read your lore. How else do you think Tiber Septim as dragonborn killed dragons and had some as allies 1000 years or so from now?

Numinex, Paarthurnax, the dragon under stros Mkai, etc... There are almost 2 dozen known dragons (from lore) still alive

Yes, there are dragons still alive.

How many do you see running about where everyone can see them? How many rumors say "there's a DRAGON in that cave, so we should go kill it"?

I don't recall Tiber Septim killing dragons. Since he did go to the Greybeards, then he did meet Paarthurnax. Probably where the story he made an agreement with dragons came from. Also the source of his "dragon allies' story. But not random dragons as bosses in holes in the ground.

For the person who wants a daedra-like dragon enemy...what are daedric titans?

LadyNalcarya

No

Enslaved wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

No thanks. Nord styled anything annoys me at the moment.

After encountering wall-to-wall Nords for the last few years thanks to Skyrim and the Skyrim remaster... I'm done. Enough.

No. More. Stinky. Nords.

As if anyone would force you to do that particular trial.

Of course nobody would, but how about having a trial based on a culture that hasn't already had massive exposure relatively recently?

Lets see. We have Redguard trials. Khajiit trial. And Dwemer trial. Its time for Nords.

Lets see. We have DC trials, then AD trial and EP trial (cause Sotha Sil is a dunmeri god, hes not a dwemer), how does that mean that we need one more EP trial?

Well, L2C (learn to count)

We have 3 DC trials. One AD trial, and one Dwemer based trial. Even if you count that Dwemer trial as EP one, why would it be a problem to have another EP trial? Also, do not forget that we have single player arena in DC zone, and group arena in DC zone as well.

Ok, then dont forget that we have 2 huge argonian-themed dungeons with a whole set of achievements and collectibles, and we'll get 2 nord dungeons soon (they were datamined a while ago).

P.S. Clockwork city isnt "Dwemer". Its a creation of Sotha Sil, who used to be a Chimer (basically oldschool Dunmer). Of course, he used Dwemer tech, but hes not a dwemer, and his fabricants arent your typical dwemer machines.

NordSwordnBoard

No

I cant remember how many dragons I killed in Skyrim. Enough to last me well into the next ES after eso.

There are so many creative beasts to choose from... Dragons just had the spotlight, lets see something new/specific to the lore.

starkerealm

No

JKorr wrote: »

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

Vipstaakki wrote: »

Dragons in ESO are lore breaking.

No they aren't?

There are several alive right now, just in hiding,

Re read your lore. How else do you think Tiber Septim as dragonborn killed dragons and had some as allies 1000 years or so from now?

Numinex, Paarthurnax, the dragon under stros Mkai, etc... There are almost 2 dozen known dragons (from lore) still alive

Yes, there are dragons still alive.

How many do you see running about where everyone can see them? How many rumors say "there's a DRAGON in that cave, so we should go kill it"?

I don't recall Tiber Septim killing dragons. Since he did go to the Greybeards, then he did meet Paarthurnax. Probably where the story he made an agreement with dragons came from. Also the source of his "dragon allies' story. But not random dragons as bosses in holes in the ground.

For the person who wants a daedra-like dragon enemy...what are daedric titans?

The Blades started out as an organization dedicated to slaying dragons, (no, that retcon never made sense to me either), meaning they must have had some success. Dragons are vanishingly rare on Tamriel in the third era, but not unheard of. In the second it makes sense there might be a few more. The Blades even record snuffing a handful in the second and third era, so there is that. But, somehow having players chase after them in huge swarms seems like exactly what the Dragons sought to avoid.

Enslaved

Yes

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

No thanks. Nord styled anything annoys me at the moment.

After encountering wall-to-wall Nords for the last few years thanks to Skyrim and the Skyrim remaster... I'm done. Enough.

No. More. Stinky. Nords.

As if anyone would force you to do that particular trial.

Of course nobody would, but how about having a trial based on a culture that hasn't already had massive exposure relatively recently?

Lets see. We have Redguard trials. Khajiit trial. And Dwemer trial. Its time for Nords.

Lets see. We have DC trials, then AD trial and EP trial (cause Sotha Sil is a dunmeri god, hes not a dwemer), how does that mean that we need one more EP trial?

Well, L2C (learn to count)

We have 3 DC trials. One AD trial, and one Dwemer based trial. Even if you count that Dwemer trial as EP one, why would it be a problem to have another EP trial? Also, do not forget that we have single player arena in DC zone, and group arena in DC zone as well.

Ok, then dont forget that we have 2 huge argonian-themed dungeons with a whole set of achievements and collectibles, and we'll get 2 nord dungeons soon (they were datamined a while ago).

P.S. Clockwork city isnt "Dwemer". Its a creation of Sotha Sil, who used to be a Chimer (basically oldschool Dunmer). Of course, he used Dwemer tech, but hes not a dwemer, and his fabricants arent your typical dwemer machines.

Well, I would be glad to see more group dungeons in Vvardenfell, that Nord ones you talk about, Elsweyr ones in the future, maybe even a Murkmire one. That still does not mean EP should not get at least one trial on their territory, beside this what I see as Dwemer and you see as you please. Don't get me wrong, AD could use one more trial as well.

But back on the topic, beside the fact that some ppl here don't find Labyrinthian trial as hypster enough (hurr durr we had Skyrim), there is no real issue with that, and since Zos likes cash and already got a ton of that on ESO Morrowind chapter based purely on nostalgia of players who like TES lll, what would be better nostalgia cash grab than Western Skyrim and possibly a trial within it? If they make it, Ill gladly spend 30-40-50 euros on that.

TheShadowScout

Other

Teridaxus wrote: »

A nord styled trial with a dragon as boss

...eh, this isn't skyrim.
...
..How-ever...
...
...we have had several "time flashback" type quests - so why not make it a trial where you go back in time to the dragon wars to fight a dragon back then? That -would- sidestep all those "lore timeline..." issues... and if done right, they wouldn't even have to make it clear if that "trial" was real or just all an illusion or something... further obfuscating the issue and thus glossing over any lore inconsistencies.

(Same for dwemer, many people would love to get a better glimpse at them, and since we had one time-vision quest for the chimer, its not so far fetched to give us a quest where we step into a dwemer city at the height of their culture for a quick visit)

starkerealm

No

Enslaved wrote: »

But back on the topic, beside the fact that some ppl here don't find Labyrinthian trial as hypster enough (hurr durr we had Skyrim), there is no real issue with that, and since Zos likes cash and already got a ton of that on ESO Morrowind chapter based purely on nostalgia of players who like TES lll, what would be better nostalgia cash grab than Western Skyrim and possibly a trial within it? If they make it, Ill gladly spend 30-40-50 euros on that.

I'm all for Western Skyrim being added to the game. Hell, when you're looking at it that way, Castle Vulkihar, and Labyrinthian would be natural choices for dungeons. I'm just not overly excited by the idea of Lab being a repeat of Skyrim's version, rather than something new with that dungeon.