The Elder Scrolls Online

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Eyesinthedrk
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Are you serious? It's not bad enough that it's a DLC not free with ESO plus. It's not enough that it's not purchasable by accumulated crowns. But now as a PSN purchase it's not available console wide either?

My household has to pay $160 so my wife and kids can play it to? I am absolutely disgusted with you guys.
With a year and a half of paid monthly loyalty? [snip]

[edited for inappropriate commentary]
Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 9, 2017 4:22PM
  • Dracindo
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    It's nothing special, you can live without Morrowind. I don't think you'll miss out on anything.
  • craftycarper73
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    Dry run?
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  • Sausage
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    Family discount would be fair.
  • Eyesinthedrk
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    I've got it the rest of the family doesn't. Of all the purchases I've made on the psn and a brick and mirror store this is the ONLY one that isn't console wide.
    Edited by Eyesinthedrk on June 6, 2017 9:26AM
  • Cêltic421
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    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    Are you serious? It's not bad enough that it's a DLC not free with ESO plus. It's not enough that it's not purchasable by accumulated crowns. But now as a PSN purchase it's not available console wide either?

    My household has to pay $160 so my wife and kids can play it to? I am absolutely disgusted with you guys.

    You have 4 PS4 in your house? You can cut the price in half to $80 by sharing.
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 9, 2017 4:24PM
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Isn't this how every account-based game is handled? Want 4 accounts on PC? Buy 4 accounts. I've never heard of a game that allows account sharing.
  • raasdal
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    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    Are you serious? It's not bad enough that it's a DLC not free with ESO plus. It's not enough that it's not purchasable by accumulated crowns. But now as a PSN purchase it's not available console wide either?

    My household has to pay $160 so my wife and kids can play it to? I am absolutely disgusted with you guys.

    You are aware, that PSN / PS+ or whatever the name for access to PS4 Servers have nothing to do with Zenimax, right?

    You also aware that this is an MMO, for which you need a personal account, right? You can let your family play on your account for fun, sure. But this is not a Family-wide subscription MMO. So if your Wife wants to play the game - surprise - she has to buy and pay for it. That is how life works.
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 9, 2017 4:24PM
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  • Ihatenightblades
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    Are you serious? It's not bad enough that it's a DLC not free with ESO plus. It's not enough that it's not purchasable by accumulated crowns. But now as a PSN purchase it's not available console wide either?

    My household has to pay $160 so my wife and kids can play it to? I am absolutely disgusted with you guys.
    A year and a half of paid monthly loyalty so you guy can make me bend over and spread my cheeks?

    You are aware, that PSN / PS+ or whatever the name for access to PS4 Servers have nothing to do with Zenimax, right?

    You also aware that this is an MMO, for which you need a personal account, right? You can let your family play on your account for fun, sure. But this is not a Family-wide subscription MMO.


    This
  • Ashdroid
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    wait what

    Each account on the PS4 will need their own copy of Morrowind? That's insane. Every other game I have allows DLC purchased from the PSN store to be used by other accounts on my PS4.

    My boyfriend can use my copy of ESO, but not go to Morrowind? Ridiculous. Frustrating.
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  • altemriel
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    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    Are you serious? It's not bad enough that it's a DLC not free with ESO plus. It's not enough that it's not purchasable by accumulated crowns. But now as a PSN purchase it's not available console wide either?

    My household has to pay $160 so my wife and kids can play it to? I am absolutely disgusted with you guys.



    that was announced long time ago, that it will not be part of the eso+ subscription
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 9, 2017 4:25PM
  • sdtlc
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    and the discussion around using one chapter per account and not console has been there befor to.

    I'd would be rather salty from me to blame the consoleros of the current ongoing b2p, store, sub, chapter disaster :wink:
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  • Adernath
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    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    Are you serious? It's not bad enough that it's a DLC not free with ESO plus. It's not enough that it's not purchasable by accumulated crowns. But now as a PSN purchase it's not available console wide either?

    My household has to pay $160 so my wife and kids can play it to? I am absolutely disgusted with you guys.

    LMAO This is not television but an MMO where you have to pay for multiple copies. Get real.
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 9, 2017 4:25PM
  • Eyesinthedrk
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    I have been gaming since pong, and there is no other instance were I can put a physical disk into a machine and no one else on the machine can play it.

    Zero, none.
  • Darlon
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    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    I have been gaming since pong, and there is no other instance were I can put a physical disk into a machine and no one else on the machine can play it.

    Zero, none.

    haven't done much mmo gaming then...
  • Cêltic421
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    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    I have been gaming since pong, and there is no other instance were I can put a physical disk into a machine and no one else on the machine can play it.

    Zero, none.

    Pong? What is this?
  • Ashdroid
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    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    I have been gaming since pong, and there is no other instance were I can put a physical disk into a machine and no one else on the machine can play it.

    Zero, none.

    Better hope you're logged into the right account when you put that disk in!
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  • Absolut_Turkey
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    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    I have been gaming since pong, and there is no other instance were I can put a physical disk into a machine and no one else on the machine can play it.

    Zero, none.

    *facepalm*
    I've been gaming since pong too. You do realize that was a long time ago right? You do realize much has changed since then right?
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  • supaskrub
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    Absolut_Turkey wrote: »
    Eyesinthedrk wrote: »
    I have been gaming since pong, and there is no other instance were I can put a physical disk into a machine and no one else on the machine can play it.

    Zero, none.

    *facepalm*
    I've been gaming since pong too. You do realize that was a long time ago right? You do realize much has changed since then right?

    I was six years old when Pong was released (the power of google tells me the year, was 1972), my earliest memories of it though were in 1976 while holidaying in Skegvegas.. it was fascinating!
    Edited by supaskrub on June 6, 2017 9:58AM
  • psxfloh
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    huh? glad I didn't order that piece of..software, yet.

    There's like a dozen things where ZOS could've been more customer friendly with Morrowind, but they took the moar$$$ path at each intersection. Sad sad sad, and propably bad bad bad for their reputation..
  • Sakiri
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    I don't know of a single MMORPG where you didn't have to buy a copy of the expansion for every account that wants to play it.

    Sorry.
  • FleetwoodSmack
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't know of a single MMORPG where you didn't have to buy a copy of the expansion for every account that wants to play it.

    Sorry.

    This. I've heard of games that had online multiplayer expansions unlocked for every account, but not an MMORPG.
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  • Cêltic421
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't know of a single MMORPG where you didn't have to buy a copy of the expansion for every account that wants to play it.

    Sorry.

    Neverwinter, skyforge, star trek I'm sure there are others. Oh almost forgot ESO! Yea that's right ESO. On PS4 that is. But can't with Morrowind, I don't think. So I won't be getting it.

    Consoles players are not the same as PC players, we are more casual and don't want to spend a *** load of money so everyone in the family can play it. 1 disc or 1 download should work on all accounts on the same platform.
    Edited by Cêltic421 on June 6, 2017 10:12AM
  • Lightbane
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    You know this is an MMO right? Not a single player game? Or a single player game with multiplayer support right? Every single MMO in existence is like this... One account per person. But then you're a console user, MMOs are new to consoles, but that is the way they are.
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    Breaking the TOS of both Sony and ZOS and then being mad they circumvented it xD Oh lord.
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  • Sakiri
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    Cêltic421 wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't know of a single MMORPG where you didn't have to buy a copy of the expansion for every account that wants to play it.

    Sorry.

    Neverwinter, skyforge, star trek I'm sure there are others.

    You mean free to play garbage?
  • xBOOBOOxKITTYx
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    In defense of OP, and to enlighten those seemingly new to console ways; when someone with an account (gamer tag) purchases a game and game expansion, anyone using that particular console (assuming it's set to their home) or if that account is logged in, every other account (gamer tag) can play that game under their own account (gamer tag).

    I've only been playing games on console over a year so this was new to me, but this has been the case for every other game I've played.

    This is not the case for ESO and the Imperial Edition (which I thought was because it's available in the crown store).

    When we're groomed by past experiences - it's normal to have expectations like this.

    However, while it wasn't actually announced (there was a thread here asking this very question in May) asking ESO support eventually (only recently) furnished a legit response.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/345610/can-i-play-morrowind-on-sub-accounts/p1

    OP, I feel your pain.

    PC players, I understand your confusion.

    Edit: added link
    Edited by xBOOBOOxKITTYx on June 6, 2017 10:16AM
  • Khenarthi
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    Cêltic421 wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    I don't know of a single MMORPG where you didn't have to buy a copy of the expansion for every account that wants to play it.

    Sorry.

    Neverwinter, skyforge, star trek I'm sure there are others. Oh almost forgot ESO! Yea that's right ESO. On PS4 that is. But can't with Morrowind, I don't think. So I won't be getting it.

    Consoles players are not the same as PC players, we are more casual and don't want to spend a *** load of money so everyone in the family can play it. 1 disc or 1 download should work on all accounts on the same platform.

    I'm a PC player and I'm ultra casual. I would also like to save money, but to have 2 ESO accounts on my PC (altoholic) I had to pay for each of them. Same goes for Morrowind and sub, which I only got on my primary account. Must be nice to have multiple accounts without having to fork over extra money... I envy that.
    Edited by Khenarthi on June 6, 2017 10:39AM
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  • klowdy1
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    Did you only buy one of the original game that allows you to have 4 people playing it at one time? No, you bought as many as you needed for everyone to play. WoW does this, FF14 does this, and any game that is account based does this. What is disgusting is this entitlement that 4 people should be able to play on one account at the same time. Would you expect to be able to play CoD on 4 separate consoles with just 1 game? Think things through.
  • Ashdroid
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    klowdy1 wrote: »
    Did you only buy one of the original game that allows you to have 4 people playing it at one time? No, you bought as many as you needed for everyone to play. WoW does this, FF14 does this, and any game that is account based does this. What is disgusting is this entitlement that 4 people should be able to play on one account at the same time. Would you expect to be able to play CoD on 4 separate consoles with just 1 game? Think things through.

    But 4 separate people can play CoD on 1 console, with 1 copy of the game. Just like 4 people/accounts can play ESO on 1 console, with 1 copy of the game. If ESO is purchased in the PSN store, and Morrowind is too, it's reasonable to expect them to behave the same way.
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  • Eyesinthedrk
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    Nope one copy of elder scrolls is good for 4 different accounts one console. Might be more but I only have 4 on this system.
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