Do you want a new abilities bar, only active when your pets are out (wardens and sorcs) ?

taiji2078

This post is NOT for the classes without pets. It is aimed specially for Wardens and Sorcerers.

Since the pet control is worse with Morrowind and the pets are actually dumber than before, I think ZOS should let US decide what our pets should attack and when. For this, I suggest a third abilities bar, offering full pet control, with :

1. Attack
2. Stop attack
3. Aggressive
4. Passive
5. Move to
6. (instead of ultimate) Unsummon pets

White wabbit

Sorry but a bit selfish asking for something that only two classes will get , I mean sorc already has 3 bars what more do you want

Yellow_Monolith

Do sorcs really need a fourth bar?

Victoria_Marquis

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Need to add this to the XB1 & PS4 controllers as well rather have it on the D-Pad toggle then the E-motes. There ZoS quick fix for it to work on controllers as well.

taiji2078

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It's easier and faster to vote that you don't need it. Thank you.

White wabbit

taiji2078 wrote: »

It's easier and faster to vote that you don't need it. Thank you.

No it's not easier to vote for something that is very unlikely to happen

faerigirl

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I would love to be able to unsummon!

There are so many times that I want them to just go away, which is easier to do with them not regen heals right now, I just send them off to die.

White wabbit

faerigirl wrote: »

I would love to be able to unsummon!

There are so many times that I want them to just go away, which is easier to do with them not regen heals right now, I just send them off to die.

Don't quote me but can't you go into character screen and deactivate the skill

faerigirl

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White wabbit wrote: »

faerigirl wrote: »

I would love to be able to unsummon!

There are so many times that I want them to just go away, which is easier to do with them not regen heals right now, I just send them off to die.

Don't quote me but can't you go into character screen and deactivate the skill

I don't know. On the character screen? Really? Like where your stats are?

That would be totally cool!

SodanTok

There is this pet key (not sure if there is for gamepad). If you hold it and left click it will attack target. It is pretty wonky to use it but it could be extended to behavior like
petkey+right click => stop attacking
petkey+rightclick (twice or hold) => go passive mode
petket+left click => attack target aimed at or go aggresive mode if nobody is targeted

For unsummon all it could very well be some other petkey interaction too.

Dracindo

As stated, Sorcs already have a third bar, I don't think they need another one.

They should rather find a way to give NB, DK and Templar a third bar.

White wabbit

faerigirl wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

faerigirl wrote: »

I would love to be able to unsummon!

There are so many times that I want them to just go away, which is easier to do with them not regen heals right now, I just send them off to die.

Don't quote me but can't you go into character screen and deactivate the skill

I don't know. On the character screen? Really? Like where your stats are?

That would be totally cool!

I think it's it the active buffs part of the character screen but don't quote me I don't play my sorc a lot

HappyHaunt

I think it would just be a hassle. I'd rather them sort out the pet AI. ._. Or at least the glitches.

faerigirl

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SodanTok wrote: »

There is this pet key (not sure if there is for gamepad). If you hold it and left click it will attack target. It is pretty wonky to use it but it could be extended to behavior like
petkey+right click => stop attacking
petkey+rightclick (twice or hold) => go passive mode
petket+left click => attack target aimed at or go aggresive mode if nobody is targeted

For unsummon all it could very well be some other petkey interaction too.

Thanks Sodan!

I have never seen any 'Pet Key' there was nothing in any tutorial that I saw but I think I will go check out the key binds tonight!

Skjoldur

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Dracindo wrote: »

As stated, Sorcs already have a third bar, I don't think they need another one.

They should rather find a way to give NB, DK and Templar a third bar.

Don't they only have a 3rd bar for a specific ultimate? And how does this third bar help with giving commands to the completely stupid pets in your opinion?! And how does your opinion help wardens?

taiji2078

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Skjoldur wrote: »

Don't they only have a 3rd bar for a specific ultimate? And how does this third bar help with giving commands to the completely stupid pets in your opinion?! And how does your opinion help wardens?

This is why I said that this post is for sorcs and wardens ... but many people are just interested in other classes without playing them. I totally understand it. Being curious is natural. Let them ask Skjoldur. If I can, I will clear it up a bit for them.

So here we go, about sorcs : (wardens are clearly in need of such bar)

The sorc class has a 3rd bar, bound to the "Overload" ultimate. When you play a pet build, you don't use it - you go Shooting Star/Thunderous Rage. If the pets aren't out, this pet 3rd bar will not be visible, and you will have only the Overload 3rd bar, used often by regular pve sorc specs. So there won't be 4 bars for sorcs ... that would be a real mess indeed.

When you play a standard pet build, you don't use Overload as ultimate. So the 3rd bar would be the pet bar.

About consoles now, thanks for clearing it for us ... I play on PC and I was unable to control my pets. Actually I'm using an addon to switch command bars fast enough so I could unsommon the pets when bugged in trials / dungeons so I don't wipe the entire group. It happened with my pets 2-3 times so I'm taking care now.

Ostaradoe

My pet is smart. I don't need it.

As it is, if you want to keep your pet summoned you need the skill slotted on 2 (or 3) bars. For those that use 2 pets this takes up a lot of skills using 4 (or 6) skills slots. Instead of a separate bar for pets, i'd like to see this changed so you only need to summon it once and it stays summoned when switching bars, with a couple of extra daedric summoning skills to control pets. For example 'attack my target' or tail swipe.

taiji2078

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Ostaradoe wrote: »

As it is, if you want to keep your pet summoned you need the skill slotted on 2 (or 3) bars. For those that use 2 pets this takes up a lot of skills using 4 (or 6) skills slots. Instead of a separate bar for pets, i'd like to see this changed so you only need to summon it once and it stays summoned when switching bars, with a couple of extra daedric summoning skills to control pets. For example 'attack my target' or tail swipe.

I like this too. Nice suggestion. Too bad there isn't a suggestions section of these forums ... I would be there most of the time.

Thank you all for your feedback. Being the general discussion, for sure this thread will die soon. I cannot stay and reply now. Cya later !

Skjoldur

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Ostaradoe wrote: »

As it is, if you want to keep your pet summoned you need the skill slotted on 2 (or 3) bars. For those that use 2 pets this takes up a lot of skills using 4 (or 6) skills slots. Instead of a separate bar for pets, i'd like to see this changed so you only need to summon it once and it stays summoned when switching bars, with a couple of extra daedric summoning skills to control pets. For example 'attack my target' or tail swipe.

That would be nice, but I think, then ZOS will nerf the pets. For example they explicitely said, that the bear pet is powerfull and 2 slots are therefore okay. I imagine, they tried (its ZOS after all) to take this into account for all pets.

Although the 2 slot reason is most likely just their way to sell something as intentional, just like the declared weaving and cancellation as a core mechanics back then...

Feanor

I'd rather have working skills on the bars I already have.