Maintenance for the week of July 14:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – July 14
The connection issues for the European megaservers have been resolved at this time. If you continue to experience difficulties at login, please restart your client. Thank you for your patience!

4000 crowns(34,99 euro) for a mount isn't that too much?

WarMasterCyp
WarMasterCyp
✭✭✭
First of all I know that they need to make money to keep servers up and so on but 4,000 crowns for a stinking mount is crazy and no one in their right mind would buy this. In order for me to get 4k crowns I will need to buy the 5500 crown pack which for me costs 34,99 euro.

This is as much as morrowind costed me and it is ridiculous. Is this mount meant to be for subs who get monthly crowns or what? I have purchased a lot of crowns in the past to support this game but this is just too much.

Either way I have decided not to support with crown purchases further, If ZOS wants to overcharge that's their right after all its their game but as a customer I can just stop purchasing crowns.


Anyway I would love to know what you guys think about the mount price in the store right now :)
  • Darth_Trumpious
    Darth_Trumpious
    ✭✭✭✭
    Think? People already bought them!
  • Cpt_Teemo
    Cpt_Teemo
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Yeah most of the recent stuff is way to overpriced
  • Stovahkiin
    Stovahkiin
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    2,000 or 2,500 crown mount prices would be fine, but yeah people have complained about 4K crown mounts. If you haven't noticed, Zeni doesn't really understand how pricing works.
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    Think? People already bought them!

    Yeah I mean its their right to buy it if they want it, I am just wondering why the sudden changes in prices and everything new is so overpriced.

    Don't get me wrong I love the game and I supported them in the past but this is just too much.
  • Asardes
    Asardes
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    No price is absurd if people are willing to pay it. Even more so for a purely cosmetic item.
    Edited by Asardes on May 25, 2017 3:21PM
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    2,000 or 2,500 crown mount prices would be fine, but yeah people have complained about 4K crown mounts. If you haven't noticed, Zeni doesn't really understand how pricing works.

    YES! I agree, I mean I am a studying business right now and even I know strategies to get the maximum profit while keeping prices low.

    It's like they don't know what they are doing at times.. its scary :/
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    Asardes wrote: »
    No price is absurd if people are willing to pay it. Even more so for a purely cosmetic item.

    I agree, if a company sees that they are buying the stuff at a higher price they would be suckers not to take advantage of it.
  • SilverWF
    SilverWF
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    OP, wtf about that mount? Is it faster? Not. So why care?
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    Zeni doesn't really understand how pricing works.

    Yeah, true - just remember 6k price for celestial motiff, lol
    Edited by SilverWF on May 25, 2017 3:24PM
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
    luen79rwb17_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Which mount is it now? I'm at work.
    PC/DC/NAserver

    V16 sorc - V16 temp - V16 dk - V1 nb - V1 temp - V1 dk
  • Blackshark
    Blackshark
    ✭✭✭
    @Stovahkiin Oh, they perfectly understand how pricing works. Contrary to popular belief, ZOS is not marketing these crown store exclusives to kiddos with their mom's credit card. ZOS is aiming for the "whales" and the 25-49 age group with disposable income who treat ESO as a hobby.

    Granted, Zenimax Media (Parent of ZOS) is a private company so I couldn't find their annual reports on Edgar (SEC database) to confirm but I would be willing to bet that these crown store exclusives are selling very well for minimal investment, i.e. large margin.
  • Cyn_v84
    Cyn_v84
    ✭✭✭
    Asardes wrote: »
    No price is absurd if people are willing to pay it. Even more so for a purely cosmetic item.

    Exactly that. Also, they have their own currency, and a lot of people just don't translate that into real money...
  • Justiciar
    Justiciar
    ✭✭✭
    Eh, I bought it. I mostly just wanted a kagouti and missed it first time around. It's a pretty neat mount though.
    Conquest, Victory, Profit
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    SilverWF wrote: »
    OP, wtf about that mount? Is it faster? Not. So why care?
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    Zeni doesn't really understand how pricing works.

    Yeah, true - just remember 6k price for celestial motiff, lol

    It's not that, its the logic behind the pricing which I am wondering because you are right it isn't any different than any other mount so what's the point of overpricing..
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    Justiciar wrote: »
    Eh, I bought it. I mostly just wanted a kagouti and missed it first time around. It's a pretty neat mount though.

    If you wanted the mount then its cool that you bought it! :)
  • Sabbathius
    Sabbathius
    ✭✭✭✭
    Honestly, it's all relative. To be blunt, some people are unwise with their money. Yes, yes, I know, it's your money, you make $600/hr, blah blah. I'm not disagreeing with you. Way to go! Thing is, it's still unsound to fork over EU$35 for a single digital horsey in a video game, when same EU$35 could buy you a whole new video game with a bunch of digital horses. The only question is whether you can afford to be unwise, and how you feel about it. If burning $1000 bills makes you feel all tingly in your special places, in a good way? Go nuts. Just don't begrudge the rest of us rolling our eyes at what you're doing.

    And, really, this is why ZOS does it. Sure they could sell $1 mounts to 100 people. Or they could hook a single whale who will buy one $100 mount. The difference is, those 100 people are very difficult to please, at the same time, and for long. Whereas pleasing (by any means) that one guy who dropped $100 on one horse is much easier, because it's one guy, one opinion. So if you cater to these guys, and each one of them is dropping $100 for stuff, it's WAY steadier and much easier than pleasing literally hundreds of players, each of which only drops $1. And many players don't spend any additional money at all.
  • Turelus
    Turelus
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the other reasons companies use in game currencies you buy is because it's a great way to mask how much people are spending.

    I already commented in the official thread but can say here as well. The Sabre Cat was a step back to the right direction, 2,500 for a mount and the forums were showered with praise as well as a number of tweets I saw on Twitter.

    People were happy it was a good fair price. ZOS then went right back to jacking it up. Had this been 2,500 or maybe 3,000 I would have been very tempted, however at this price I walked away.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • Blackshark
    Blackshark
    ✭✭✭
    SilverWF wrote: »
    OP, wtf about that mount? Is it faster? Not. So why care?
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    Zeni doesn't really understand how pricing works.

    Yeah, true - just remember 6k price for celestial motiff, lol

    It's not that, its the logic behind the pricing which I am wondering because you are right it isn't any different than any other mount so what's the point of overpricing..

    @WarMasterCyp http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp

    http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2011/07/supply-curves-for-digital-goods.html

    Maximize PV of expected revenue. Pretty basic stuff.
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    Turelus wrote: »
    One of the other reasons companies use in game currencies you buy is because it's a great way to mask how much people are spending.

    I already commented in the official thread but can say here as well. The Sabre Cat was a step back to the right direction, 2,500 for a mount and the forums were showered with praise as well as a number of tweets I saw on Twitter.

    People were happy it was a good fair price. ZOS then went right back to jacking it up. Had this been 2,500 or maybe 3,000 I would have been very tempted, however at this price I walked away.

    yeah I would walk away too just like i'm doing now and its too bad cause ZOS could have made more money with a lower price and overall they would have made more money from what they will now.
  • SilverWF
    SilverWF
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    what's the point of overpricing.
    Make some money on the hype, huh? :D
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    Blackshark wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    OP, wtf about that mount? Is it faster? Not. So why care?
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    Zeni doesn't really understand how pricing works.

    Yeah, true - just remember 6k price for celestial motiff, lol

    It's not that, its the logic behind the pricing which I am wondering because you are right it isn't any different than any other mount so what's the point of overpricing..

    @WarMasterCyp http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp

    http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2011/07/supply-curves-for-digital-goods.html

    Maximize PV of expected revenue. Pretty basic stuff.

    lol thanks :/
  • AhPook_Is_Here
    AhPook_Is_Here
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    As David Bowie once said on MTV, "too much is never enough".
    “Whatever.”
    -Unknown American
  • Kiralyn2000
    Kiralyn2000
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meh, it's an entirely cosmetic item. It gives no advantage, and literally no one "needs" it. Price doesn't bother me, since it's an entirely frivolous luxury, like "designer" clothes.

    edit: I'd certainly never buy it, just like I avoid other silly-priced cosmetics in games, but I don't feel any upset over them either. /shrug
    Edited by Kiralyn2000 on May 25, 2017 3:33PM
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    As David Bowie once said on MTV, "too much is never enough".

    lol
  • DaveMoeDee
    DaveMoeDee
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Any price is fine. You can stick with cheaper mounts. I personally use the same mounts I used at launch. If I ever get an additional mount, it will likely be the dire wolf from Elder Scrolls Legends if I ever get enough in-game currency to buy the 2nd and 3rd parts.
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    Meh, it's an entirely cosmetic item. It gives no advantage, and literally no one "needs" it. Price doesn't bother me, since it's an entirely frivolous luxury, like "designer" clothes.

    Yes I agree it isn't the item I am thinking about but the pricing it self.
  • Sneaky-Snurr
    Sneaky-Snurr
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    This really shows that ZoS are in a tight spot in terms of financial prosperity.
    $40 for unpolished and 'basic' updates, mount that costs as nearly as unpolished Morrowind.
    That doesn't even make sense.
    What makes sense is that ZoS are pushing to their very limit to sustain their revenue base which I suspect is shrinking gradually.
    The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare
      EP CP810 Nightblade
      AD CP810 Templar
      AD CP810 Dragon Knight
      AD Lvl 25 Sorceror
      DC Lvl 23 Nightblade
    {PC•NA•no-CP Ravenwatch}

    Shadow hide you. -Unknown
    There is no clean fight in a war. -Shun Izaki
  • Saebira
    Saebira
    It's cosmetic and doesn't offer you anything.

    I got it but it's really not worth it. It doesn't even glow :neutral:
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    This really shows that ZoS are in a tight spot in terms of financial prosperity.
    $40 for unpolished and 'basic' updates, mount that costs as nearly as unpolished Morrowind.
    That doesn't even make sense.
    What makes sense is that ZoS are pushing to their very limit to sustain their revenue base which I suspect is shrinking gradually.

    That's true
  • WarMasterCyp
    WarMasterCyp
    ✭✭✭
    Saebira wrote: »
    It's cosmetic and doesn't offer you anything.

    I got it but it's really not worth it. It doesn't even glow :neutral:

    maybe it glows in the dark :P but it's cool that you bought it
  • DMuehlhausen
    DMuehlhausen
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Yeah most of the recent stuff is way to overpriced

    Most not be, people are buying them.
Sign In or Register to comment.