Templars rejoice! You have been heard and BUFFED!

Feanor

Finally Templars will have a worthy contender for Meteors or Destro Ults. Oh you did want old repentance or major mending back? Sorry. No can do.

KingJ

All templars wanted was a reliable CC that's the only thing they had to do for templars and the Templar community would have been happy.Instead they removed major mending ,Increase the range of Javalin so it can't even be used as a effective CC,Removed the disorient from Shards and ruined repentance.

Zos had everything on a silver plater and they ruined it.

lunalitetempler

Feanor wrote: »

Finally Templars will have a worthy contender for Meteors or Destro Ults. Oh you did want old repentance or major mending back? Sorry. No can do.

I'm over the ******* moon about nova, makes it easier to drop on EOTS zergs. I can still repent **** everyone else about time they learned to manage their own resources. Bol? Heck I can aim, makes healers more skill based.

But is nova really now as good as metor and destro ulti? Explain your self! ^^

Feanor

That Nova change is so hilarious. Out of the steaming Templar pile they choose to change that skill. It's mind blowing.

DisgracefulMind

I've lost hope at this point.

Barely any CCs.

No Repentance if another Templar hits it first.

Stuck in channels for any sort of burst (we can discuss purifying light eventually, but magicka templars rarely can hit the cap so w/e).

Horrible gap closer.

Our one "CC" puts people out of our range. Don't want to hear about toppling. If you can't see one coming from a mile away, people need to l2p. So easy to block or roll dodge.

Almost entirely useless ults now that Remembrance is nerfed.

Now we have a really tiny buff to Nova, which doesn't matter because Nova isn't reliable in many situations.

I get that people hate healbots, but, ***, look at builds over the class. If you take a Magplar in a regular build without all that crazy Reactive cheese, once you force them into defensive open world, you drain them quite quickly. With sustain nerfs they won't be able to heal spam themselves back to full life as efficiently.

Not sure why ZoS made such a stupid change for Nova. It's so expensive. Could have just reduced the damn ult cost. A increase in drop speed is not going to make it more desirable.

Khaos_Bane

KingJ wrote: »

All templars wanted was a reliable CC that's the only thing they had to do for templars and the Templar community would have been happy.Instead they removed major mending ,Increase the range of Javalin so it can't even be used as a effective CC,Removed the disorient from Shards and ruined repentance.

Zos had everything on a silver plater and they ruined it.

Seriously, when are the Templar nerfs ever going to frikkin end, @Wrobel is really starting to irritate me. He keeps jacking with the most important Templar skills.

Mojmir

no we need to slot ulti generating gear to have our moment and then be back after were rdy to fire it again.

DisgracefulMind

lunalitetempler wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Finally Templars will have a worthy contender for Meteors or Destro Ults. Oh you did want old repentance or major mending back? Sorry. No can do.

I'm over the ******* moon about nova, makes it easier to drop on EOTS zergs. I can still repent **** everyone else about time they learned to manage their own resources. Bol? Heck I can aim, makes healers more skill based.

Listen, I get you're a big ZoS fan. I love ESO too, but honestly Repentance is devastating for small-scale pvpers. It's devastating for group utility for a Templar. You really must not understand it. There is no justified reason for this change.

DisgracefulMind

KingJ wrote: »

All templars wanted was a reliable CC that's the only thing they had to do for templars and the Templar community would have been happy.Instead they removed major mending ,Increase the range of Javalin so it can't even be used as a effective CC,Removed the disorient from Shards and ruined repentance.

Zos had everything on a silver plater and they ruined it.

Literally we could have sucked up the Repent change if they would have just given us a reliable CC at this point. Instead they increase the drop for Nova by .25s....k. Still won't use it in 99% of my gameplay.

Kilandros

I think Templar will still be very strong next patch and it'll likely be the top damage class for BGs. I think the main issue, at this point, is Repentance: If they think the resource restore ration is out of whack then they should reduce the amount restored per cast but allow it to continue to restore the caster and nearby allies. The current iteration of it only giving Stam back to the caster is incredibly frustrating and very unfriendly to group play.

Khaos_Bane

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

All templars wanted was a reliable CC that's the only thing they had to do for templars and the Templar community would have been happy.Instead they removed major mending ,Increase the range of Javalin so it can't even be used as a effective CC,Removed the disorient from Shards and ruined repentance.

Zos had everything on a silver plater and they ruined it.

Literally we could have sucked up the Repent change if they would have just given us a reliable CC at this point. Instead they increase the drop for Nova by .25s....k. Still won't use it in 99% of my gameplay.

I wonder if you are at the same point as me with this Templar nerfing BS. I look at patch notes and get excited when I don't see @Wrobel nerfing the crap out of them and screwing up their abilities. So Irritating.


Typically no news is the best news for Templar.

DisgracefulMind

Kilandros wrote: »

I think Templar will still be very strong next patch and it'll likely be the top damage class for BGs. I think the main issue, at this point, is Repentance: If they think the resource restore ration is out of whack then they should reduce the amount restored per cast but allow it to continue to restore the caster and nearby allies. The current iteration of it only giving Stam back to the caster is incredibly frustrating and very unfriendly to group play.

Not really just worried about BGs. I agree Templar will be strong still, but it would be nice to have a CC that works open world for us + our repentance back for small groups. /:

Kilandros

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

I think Templar will still be very strong next patch and it'll likely be the top damage class for BGs. I think the main issue, at this point, is Repentance: If they think the resource restore ration is out of whack then they should reduce the amount restored per cast but allow it to continue to restore the caster and nearby allies. The current iteration of it only giving Stam back to the caster is incredibly frustrating and very unfriendly to group play.

Not really just worried about BGs. I agree Templar will be strong still, but it would be nice to have a CC that works open world for us + our repentance back for small groups. /:

Repentance nerf really is a direct nerf to small scale groups

lunalitetempler

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

lunalitetempler wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Finally Templars will have a worthy contender for Meteors or Destro Ults. Oh you did want old repentance or major mending back? Sorry. No can do.

I'm over the ******* moon about nova, makes it easier to drop on EOTS zergs. I can still repent **** everyone else about time they learned to manage their own resources. Bol? Heck I can aim, makes healers more skill based.

Listen, I get you're a big ZoS fan. I love ESO too, but honestly Repentance is devastating for small-scale pvpers. It's devastating for group utility for a Templar. You really must not understand it. There is no justified reason for this change.

Hey I dint nerf it!

DisgracefulMind

Kilandros wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

I think Templar will still be very strong next patch and it'll likely be the top damage class for BGs. I think the main issue, at this point, is Repentance: If they think the resource restore ration is out of whack then they should reduce the amount restored per cast but allow it to continue to restore the caster and nearby allies. The current iteration of it only giving Stam back to the caster is incredibly frustrating and very unfriendly to group play.

Not really just worried about BGs. I agree Templar will be strong still, but it would be nice to have a CC that works open world for us + our repentance back for small groups. /:

Repentance nerf really is a direct nerf to small scale groups

Oh, silly me, I forgot it was a "free cast "

DisgracefulMind

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

All templars wanted was a reliable CC that's the only thing they had to do for templars and the Templar community would have been happy.Instead they removed major mending ,Increase the range of Javalin so it can't even be used as a effective CC,Removed the disorient from Shards and ruined repentance.

Zos had everything on a silver plater and they ruined it.

Literally we could have sucked up the Repent change if they would have just given us a reliable CC at this point. Instead they increase the drop for Nova by .25s....k. Still won't use it in 99% of my gameplay.

I wonder if you are at the same point as me with this Templar nerfing BS. I look at patch notes and get excited when I don't see @Wrobel nerfing the crap out of them and screwing up their abilities. So Irritating.


Typically no news is the best news for Templar.

I'm pretty much trying to numb myself at this point. What would have been decent would for ZoS to have compensated nerfs by buffing weaker things in the class toolkit (I say this for ANY class receiving nerfs). A good example would have been the shard synergy restore to the caster that mysteriously disappeared last PTS cycle. Okay, would have been decent and compensated for some of the heavy nerfs. But it's gone. And instead we lost our disorient, Javelin got nerfed (for both Stamplars and Magplars), and now we have this joke of a Nova "buff".

I wish I could just slap Wrobel's hand and just tell him to stop touching things. It's like watching a toddler destroy your house (ha, get it) at this point, you can't keep up.

Khaos_Bane

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

All templars wanted was a reliable CC that's the only thing they had to do for templars and the Templar community would have been happy.Instead they removed major mending ,Increase the range of Javalin so it can't even be used as a effective CC,Removed the disorient from Shards and ruined repentance.

Zos had everything on a silver plater and they ruined it.

Literally we could have sucked up the Repent change if they would have just given us a reliable CC at this point. Instead they increase the drop for Nova by .25s....k. Still won't use it in 99% of my gameplay.

I wonder if you are at the same point as me with this Templar nerfing BS. I look at patch notes and get excited when I don't see @Wrobel nerfing the crap out of them and screwing up their abilities. So Irritating.


Typically no news is the best news for Templar.

I'm pretty much trying to numb myself at this point. What would have been decent would for ZoS to have compensated nerfs by buffing weaker things in the class toolkit (I say this for ANY class receiving nerfs). A good example would have been the shard synergy restore to the caster that mysteriously disappeared last PTS cycle. Okay, would have been decent and compensated for some of the heavy nerfs. But it's gone. And instead we lost our disorient, Javelin got nerfed (for both Stamplars and Magplars), and now we have this joke of a Nova "buff".

I wish I could just slap Wrobel's hand and just tell him to stop touching things. It's like watching a toddler destroy your house (ha, get it) at this point, you can't keep up.

It's making me sick of this game.

jcasini222ub17_ESO

lunalitetempler wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Finally Templars will have a worthy contender for Meteors or Destro Ults. Oh you did want old repentance or major mending back? Sorry. No can do.

I'm over the ******* moon about nova, makes it easier to drop on EOTS zergs. I can still repent **** everyone else about time they learned to manage their own resources. Bol? Heck I can aim, makes healers more skill based.

But is nova really now as good as metor and destro ulti? Explain your self! ^^

@ZOS_GinaBruno is this the type of teamwork your team is trying to promote in the stamplars/Templar community?

I can sprint into battle off the wall and troll repent Templars that are in the midst of fighting. Then they need to learn how to manage their resources? That's just silly. Because another Templar showed up an trolled them since they were low on stamina from sprinting, even if they are in the same 24 man group.

Kilandros

Nova (AND STANDARD OF MIGHT) needs to have its cost reduced to 200 Ultimate. It just isn't in the same league as Destruction Ult, so it shouldn't be in the same ultimate cost bracket.

Valkysas154

Buff to something most of us don't even use do to the Destro ult i done training dummy tests with just the ults
Staff Nova and mages

Nova is the worse one when it comes to dmg

Now if they removed the synergy and added the damage to the ult instead it would compete with the others maybe

Kilandros

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Buff to something most of us don't even use do to the Destro ult i done training dummy tests with just the ults
Staff Nova and mages

Nova is the worse one when it comes to dmg

Now if they removed the synergy and added the damage to the ult instead it would compete with the others maybe

No, this is a bad suggestion. Nova doesn't need to be a Templar-specific Destro Ult. It's actually quite strong, and the Synergy is incredibly strong in PvP. But the cost needs to come down to about 200 to make it more desirable compared to Destro Ult.

MurderMostFoul

Is this Nova buff the only buff to Templars in Morrowind?

I can't think of any others. :-(

Valkysas154

Kilandros wrote: »

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Buff to something most of us don't even use do to the Destro ult i done training dummy tests with just the ults
Staff Nova and mages

Nova is the worse one when it comes to dmg

Now if they removed the synergy and added the damage to the ult instead it would compete with the others maybe

No, this is a bad suggestion. Nova doesn't need to be a Templar-specific Destro Ult. It's actually quite strong, and the Synergy is incredibly strong in PvP. But the cost needs to come down to about 200 to make it more desirable compared to Destro Ult.

Don't care about pvp i Solo there for synergy = useless and i would think ppl would you know just move out of the way of nova something you cant do with EOTS

DisgracefulMind

Kilandros wrote: »

Nova (AND STANDARD OF MIGHT) needs to have its cost reduced to 200 Ultimate. It just isn't in the same league as Destruction Ult, so it shouldn't be in the same ultimate cost bracket.

Agree 100%. Both of these ults need some sort of reduction in costs. They're far too expensive, and, when to compared to other ultimates, are far less efficient. This needs to seriously be looked at.

Kilandros

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Buff to something most of us don't even use do to the Destro ult i done training dummy tests with just the ults
Staff Nova and mages

Nova is the worse one when it comes to dmg

Now if they removed the synergy and added the damage to the ult instead it would compete with the others maybe

No, this is a bad suggestion. Nova doesn't need to be a Templar-specific Destro Ult. It's actually quite strong, and the Synergy is incredibly strong in PvP. But the cost needs to come down to about 200 to make it more desirable compared to Destro Ult.

Don't care about pvp i Solo there for synergy = useless and i would think ppl would you know just move out of the way of nova something you cant do with EOTS

You're comparing apples to oranges. But if you're a solo PvPer you shouldn't be using Nova anyway.

Valkysas154

Kilandros wrote: »

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Buff to something most of us don't even use do to the Destro ult i done training dummy tests with just the ults
Staff Nova and mages

Nova is the worse one when it comes to dmg

Now if they removed the synergy and added the damage to the ult instead it would compete with the others maybe

No, this is a bad suggestion. Nova doesn't need to be a Templar-specific Destro Ult. It's actually quite strong, and the Synergy is incredibly strong in PvP. But the cost needs to come down to about 200 to make it more desirable compared to Destro Ult.

Don't care about pvp i Solo there for synergy = useless and i would think ppl would you know just move out of the way of nova something you cant do with EOTS

You're comparing apples to oranges. But if you're a solo PvPer you shouldn't be using Nova anyway.

LOL might want to read that again :)P

DisgracefulMind

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Buff to something most of us don't even use do to the Destro ult i done training dummy tests with just the ults
Staff Nova and mages

Nova is the worse one when it comes to dmg

Now if they removed the synergy and added the damage to the ult instead it would compete with the others maybe

No, this is a bad suggestion. Nova doesn't need to be a Templar-specific Destro Ult. It's actually quite strong, and the Synergy is incredibly strong in PvP. But the cost needs to come down to about 200 to make it more desirable compared to Destro Ult.

Don't care about pvp i Solo there for synergy = useless and i would think ppl would you know just move out of the way of nova something you cant do with EOTS

Well, suggesting a change for a skill, you need to think about the entirety of its uses. Nova can be strong, but it is too expensive to be worth saving up for in situations where something else is better, and, yes, it can be walked out of easily such as with Standard.

This game isn't just about solo players. Templar group utility has taken a major hit this patch.

Ron_Burgundy_79

I've been suggesting that one morph needed to move with the templar while still providing the 30% damage reduction. However it would lose the synergy.

Turns out Wrobel apparently did read that suggestion. Just take a look at the Wardens Ice Ulti

DisgracefulMind

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

I've been suggesting that one morph needed to move with the templar while still providing the 30% damage reduction. However it would lose the synergy.

Turns out Wrobel apparently did read that suggestion. Just take a look at the Wardens Ice Ulti

LOL I was all ready to respond to this with "Ya ya that'd be like Warden ice ult, so that would be pretty cool actually." Then read your last sentence. RIP.

Kilandros

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Buff to something most of us don't even use do to the Destro ult i done training dummy tests with just the ults
Staff Nova and mages

Nova is the worse one when it comes to dmg

Now if they removed the synergy and added the damage to the ult instead it would compete with the others maybe

No, this is a bad suggestion. Nova doesn't need to be a Templar-specific Destro Ult. It's actually quite strong, and the Synergy is incredibly strong in PvP. But the cost needs to come down to about 200 to make it more desirable compared to Destro Ult.

Don't care about pvp i Solo there for synergy = useless and i would think ppl would you know just move out of the way of nova something you cant do with EOTS

You're comparing apples to oranges. But if you're a solo PvPer you shouldn't be using Nova anyway.

LOL might want to read that again :)P

No offense but I don't know how re-reading your poorly written comment will help. I assume English is not your native language so I apologize for any misunderstanding.

Lore_lai

The change to Nova is simply hilarious. 0.25 seconds buff - really?
Also this --> "make it easier to hit moving targets." Come on...

Seriously?