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Which unoriginal and out-of-place Warden characters will we see the most?
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✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Warden is the most mismatched patchwork identity frustrated ill-fitting class in the game.
A supposed guardian of nature (aka. druid/ranger) with lots of archetypical flower power and healing and stuff. Yet a skill line dedicated to frost and winter. Sort of like a Nord wizard. Yet with a skill line of animal summoning that's inherently tied to the volcanic island of Vvardenfell. Cliff striders, netches, shalks, fetcherflies ... and a bear? What the hell is this?
Are you a nord frost mage, are you a bosmer druid thingy, or are you a dunmer animal herder? The Warden cannot even agree with its own schizofrenic self what it's supposed to be.
How about.... all three?Wishing for Lilmothiit race still! Or maybe Lilmothiit companion?0 -
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✭Other (please do tell, are there others that we might see?)Bugrol gro-Bagul smarter than the average STA orc.
Edited by AhPook_Is_Here on May 5, 2017 1:54PM“Whatever.”
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✭✭✭✭Other (please do tell, are there others that we might see?)Portly fella with a beard.
Grizzly Adams..:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ek5O2C3F5aY/TN65b6OwM2I/AAAAAAAAA7I/DziiqbRtt7A/s1600/dan_haggerty_with_bear.jpg
Or Beastmaster..:
https://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/The-Beastmaster.jpg
Edit:.. just realised the first one is already mentioned... Same pic too - lolEdited by Biro123 on May 5, 2017 1:55PMMinalan owes me a beer.
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Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.1 -
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That's exactly the issue: three different concepts were merged into one, resulting in lack of thematic consistency. My biggest problem is with the animals: they're so distinctly Dunmer/Vvardenfell that I don't know how to justify their usage by other races in other lands. They don't fit any character concept I had; I'll probably go with a Dunmer in the end even though it's the race least suited to frost magic. I'm sure I can come up with an explanation of why this particular Dunmer uses it.Carbonised wrote: »Warden is the most mismatched patchwork identity frustrated ill-fitting class in the game.
A supposed guardian of nature (aka. druid/ranger) with lots of archetypical flower power and healing and stuff. Yet a skill line dedicated to frost and winter. Sort of like a Nord wizard. Yet with a skill line of animal summoning that's inherently tied to the volcanic island of Vvardenfell. Cliff striders, netches, shalks, fetcherflies ... and a bear? What the hell is this?
Are you a nord frost mage, are you a bosmer druid thingy, or are you a dunmer animal herder? The Warden cannot even agree with its own schizofrenic self what it's supposed to be.
How about.... all three?2 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭The warden class skills are so strange from any Skyrim game, you will "stand out" regardless. We came here because of Skyrim, not because we wanted a new flavor.0 -
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✭Bosmer Ranged Wardens named Legolasone meeeelion logolasses, doing legalass things with their friend leg'o'lass, ahahahaShadow_Viper_vX wrote: »Pointless Poll is Pointless
Because cluttering up the forum and burying important issues so they take longer to get addressed, is such a great idea...
@Shadow_Viper_vX General Forum. Important issues. Maybe post your 'important issues' in one of the more developer oriented forums, instead of GD for players to resoond to.TheNorthernDragon wrote: »Guess what? Originality is uncommon. This is why an innovative writer, or artist, or thinker, is so celebrated and well-known. If "The Lord of the Rings" read like any of the thousands of copycat books that came after it, then no one would have ever heard of it, or of J.R.R. Tolkien. If "Star Trek" hadn't shown people new ideas and concepts, it wouldn't have spawned an entire industry of television, movies, novels, and toys centered around it for over 50 years. If originality were common, we wouldn't have anything new and creative in any of the arts, from da Vinci to van Gogh, Shakespeare to Stan Lee to Neil Gaiman, from Bach to Bowie, the Beatles, and James Brown, from Capra to Spielberg to Nolan. Creativity and originality are simply rare.
And if originality were common, there wouldn't be such a huge sh!tpile of bad music, books, and movies, bad videogames, and so forth.
So lower your expectations, because you just aren't going to find much true originality in this or any group of humans.
@TheNorthernDragon tch-hahaha, lighten up. Recreating an already existing character for one's own entertainment doesn't need a novel defending it. It's unoriginal and goofy, it just is.
No one is asking for tolkien writing when one creates a character, it's just humorous sering your 50th person who tried their damndest to name tnemselves some variation of 'Gimly'. My personal favorite is the many people in Dark Souls named 'Guts' whether they're cosplaying or not.
Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »The warden class skills are so strange from any Skyrim game, you will "stand out" regardless. We came here because of Skyrim, not because we wanted a new flavor.
@Floki_Vilgerdarson You seem to be a troll or on a one-track mind, my friend. I don't know about you, but I've only ever played one 'Skyrim' and that specific TES title is not the one that has me hooked on the series. It's certainly not why I came to play an MMO by a different developer, either.Edited by KochDerDamonen on May 5, 2017 5:26PMIf you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].2 -
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That's exactly the issue: three different concepts were merged into one, resulting in lack of thematic consistency. My biggest problem is with the animals: they're so distinctly Dunmer/Vvardenfell that I don't know how to justify their usage by other races in other lands. They don't fit any character concept I had; I'll probably go with a Dunmer in the end even though it's the race least suited to frost magic. I'm sure I can come up with an explanation of why this particular Dunmer uses it.Carbonised wrote: »Warden is the most mismatched patchwork identity frustrated ill-fitting class in the game.
A supposed guardian of nature (aka. druid/ranger) with lots of archetypical flower power and healing and stuff. Yet a skill line dedicated to frost and winter. Sort of like a Nord wizard. Yet with a skill line of animal summoning that's inherently tied to the volcanic island of Vvardenfell. Cliff striders, netches, shalks, fetcherflies ... and a bear? What the hell is this?
Are you a nord frost mage, are you a bosmer druid thingy, or are you a dunmer animal herder? The Warden cannot even agree with its own schizofrenic self what it's supposed to be.
How about.... all three?
The Animal issue could have been eliminated by making the animal you summon be different based on what race you are.2 -
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That's exactly the issue: three different concepts were merged into one, resulting in lack of thematic consistency. My biggest problem is with the animals: they're so distinctly Dunmer/Vvardenfell that I don't know how to justify their usage by other races in other lands. They don't fit any character concept I had; I'll probably go with a Dunmer in the end even though it's the race least suited to frost magic. I'm sure I can come up with an explanation of why this particular Dunmer uses it.Carbonised wrote: »Warden is the most mismatched patchwork identity frustrated ill-fitting class in the game.
A supposed guardian of nature (aka. druid/ranger) with lots of archetypical flower power and healing and stuff. Yet a skill line dedicated to frost and winter. Sort of like a Nord wizard. Yet with a skill line of animal summoning that's inherently tied to the volcanic island of Vvardenfell. Cliff striders, netches, shalks, fetcherflies ... and a bear? What the hell is this?
Are you a nord frost mage, are you a bosmer druid thingy, or are you a dunmer animal herder? The Warden cannot even agree with its own schizofrenic self what it's supposed to be.
How about.... all three?
Well just don't put points in frost magic or don't play the class if it bugs you, there are 3 and a half other classes for you.Wishing for Lilmothiit race still! Or maybe Lilmothiit companion?1 -
Shadow_Viper_vX✭✭✭✭✭KochDerDamonen wrote: »one meeeelion logolasses, doing legalass things with their friend leg'o'lass, ahahahaShadow_Viper_vX wrote: »Pointless Poll is Pointless
Because cluttering up the forum and burying important issues so they take longer to get addressed, is such a great idea...
@Shadow_Viper_vX We just want to have fun, we don't care if the broken parts of the game don't get fixed. Our fun is what matters the most!!
FTFY ;-)
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Other (please do tell, are there others that we might see?)oldskoorpg74 wrote: »Beorn.
Björn.
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✭Other (please do tell, are there others that we might see?)I expect to see many variations of Radagast the Brown, also from Tolkien.
I saw many versions of this on the PTS.1 -
Wayshuba✭✭✭✭✭Two possibilities:
A frost staff wielding mage named Mr. Freeze or I'll be back.
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A sword and board Nord named Fus Ro Dah.0 -
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That's exactly the issue: three different concepts were merged into one, resulting in lack of thematic consistency. My biggest problem is with the animals: they're so distinctly Dunmer/Vvardenfell that I don't know how to justify their usage by other races in other lands. They don't fit any character concept I had; I'll probably go with a Dunmer in the end even though it's the race least suited to frost magic. I'm sure I can come up with an explanation of why this particular Dunmer uses it.Carbonised wrote: »Warden is the most mismatched patchwork identity frustrated ill-fitting class in the game.
A supposed guardian of nature (aka. druid/ranger) with lots of archetypical flower power and healing and stuff. Yet a skill line dedicated to frost and winter. Sort of like a Nord wizard. Yet with a skill line of animal summoning that's inherently tied to the volcanic island of Vvardenfell. Cliff striders, netches, shalks, fetcherflies ... and a bear? What the hell is this?
Are you a nord frost mage, are you a bosmer druid thingy, or are you a dunmer animal herder? The Warden cannot even agree with its own schizofrenic self what it's supposed to be.
How about.... all three?
Well just don't put points in frost magic or don't play the class if it bugs you, there are 3 and a half other classes for you.
The half class is nightblade isn't it? :,)#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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That's exactly the issue: three different concepts were merged into one, resulting in lack of thematic consistency. My biggest problem is with the animals: they're so distinctly Dunmer/Vvardenfell that I don't know how to justify their usage by other races in other lands. They don't fit any character concept I had; I'll probably go with a Dunmer in the end even though it's the race least suited to frost magic. I'm sure I can come up with an explanation of why this particular Dunmer uses it.Carbonised wrote: »Warden is the most mismatched patchwork identity frustrated ill-fitting class in the game.
A supposed guardian of nature (aka. druid/ranger) with lots of archetypical flower power and healing and stuff. Yet a skill line dedicated to frost and winter. Sort of like a Nord wizard. Yet with a skill line of animal summoning that's inherently tied to the volcanic island of Vvardenfell. Cliff striders, netches, shalks, fetcherflies ... and a bear? What the hell is this?
Are you a nord frost mage, are you a bosmer druid thingy, or are you a dunmer animal herder? The Warden cannot even agree with its own schizofrenic self what it's supposed to be.
How about.... all three?
Well just don't put points in frost magic or don't play the class if it bugs you, there are 3 and a half other classes for you.
The half class is nightblade isn't it? :,)
C'mon, you KNOW it is!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Other (please do tell, are there others that we might see?)In LotRO you could make a Warden class character and name them "Warden". Then there was an in-game title you could earn called "The Warden".
So with all titles switched on you could be "Warden Warden the Warden".
I would replicate that if I could.2 -
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I know, right? I'm still confused by it. They should have turned their ideas into two different classes, not one confusing bipolar hybrid class.Carbonised wrote: »Warden is the most mismatched patchwork identity frustrated ill-fitting class in the game.
A supposed guardian of nature (aka. druid/ranger) with lots of archetypical flower power and healing and stuff. Yet a skill line dedicated to frost and winter. Sort of like a Nord wizard. Yet with a skill line of animal summoning that's inherently tied to the volcanic island of Vvardenfell. Cliff striders, netches, shalks, fetcherflies ... and a bear? What the hell is this?
Are you a nord frost mage, are you a bosmer druid thingy, or are you a dunmer animal herder? The Warden cannot even agree with its own schizofrenic self what it's supposed to be.
(Heh heh ... get it? Bipolar. POLAR. Ice magic, you see. ...)
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✭✭My biggest problem is with the animals: they're so distinctly Dunmer/Vvardenfell that I don't know how to justify their usage by other races in other lands. They don't fit any character concept I had; I'll probably go with a Dunmer in the end even though it's the race least suited to frost magic. I'm sure I can come up with an explanation of why this particular Dunmer uses it.
Glad I'm not the only one having trouble trying to rationalise why a non-Dunmer Warden would be summoning animals from Vvardenfell.
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✭Bosmer Ranged Wardens named Legolasadriant1978 wrote: »My biggest problem is with the animals: they're so distinctly Dunmer/Vvardenfell that I don't know how to justify their usage by other races in other lands. They don't fit any character concept I had; I'll probably go with a Dunmer in the end even though it's the race least suited to frost magic. I'm sure I can come up with an explanation of why this particular Dunmer uses it.
Glad I'm not the only one having trouble trying to rationalise why a non-Dunmer Warden would be summoning animals from Vvardenfell.
@Rosveen @adriant1978 *cough* So ZOS can sell us the new combat pet skins that they are adding to the crown store *cough*
(see: Warden bear recolor for the special edition of the chapter)If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].1 -
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