How much worse is a second vMSA staff vs 4th piece infalliable aether staff?

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO

How much worse is a second vMSA staff vs 4th piece infalliable aether staff?

I mean how much DPS can I loose if I run 2 vMSA sharpened staffs and just 3 infalliable aether items compared to using one vMSA staff and one infalliable aether staff?

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Not sure tbh.

IA staff - 129 spell dmg
Enchant - 350 when proc

VMA staff - constant 189? Nothing massive really

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO

So basically with a 50% uptime on the enchant you get 175 spell damage and another 129 from the 4th piece. So its:

304 spell damage vs 189

so its about 1-2% DPS loss

Is that correct?

Danksta

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

So basically with a 50% uptime on the enchant you get 175 spell damage and another 129 from the 4th piece. So its:

304 spell damage vs 189

so its about 1-2% DPS loss

Is that correct?

You could even run a poison on your vMA staff that you're not benefitting from the enchantment on and it would probably be pretty close to even.

LZH

vMA staff is 189 constant spell damage.

IA staff is 129 + 0.5 (348) = 303 constant spell damage (keeping 50% berserker uptime isn't very difficult, just need a light attack once per 10 seconds).

303 - 189 = 114

114 buffed spell damage is 114 x 1.25 = 142.5 spell damage

142.5 SD (1.5% damage per/100 SD) = 2.13% DPS


So IA is roughly better by 2.13% although it's within a range of 1.8-2.5% more likely.


The other thing you can do is put poisons on your vMA weapon and still keep the spell damage so that closes the gap a little bit and makes them roughly even.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO

Im looking at it this way roughly:

I will be converting spell damage and magicka to spell points roughly 1 spell damage = 10 magicka.

Without IA 4th piece and with second vMSA staff:

2800 spell damage + 48 000 magicka = 7600 spell points

(one percent of that is 76 spell points)

With IA 4th piece and without second vMSA staff:
(lets say that it gives 150 extra spell damage to round things out)

2950 + 48 000 magicka = 7750 spell points

So yea, its about 2 percent.

As I am doing 35k DPS if I try hard (im not that good with my rotations or animation cancelings) it would buff it up to 35.7k. That doesn't look a lot to me. Thanks for the responses.

pizzaow

If you re-enchant your maelstrom staff, do you loose the extra spell damage?

Gilvoth

i went on pts and tested my current weapon against malestrum weapons and i saw a very small increase in damage in cryodiil.
the amount was not much.
but that was pvp.
i don't know what difference in pve cause i did not test yet but i bet is just not a huge increase.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO

pizzaow wrote: »

If you re-enchant your maelstrom staff, do you loose the extra spell damage?

yes, dont do that

Spliffo

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

pizzaow wrote: »

If you re-enchant your maelstrom staff, do you loose the extra spell damage?

yes, dont do that

Thats wrong you actually keep it like when running a poison on a VMA weapon

Masel

Spliffo wrote: »

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

pizzaow wrote: »

If you re-enchant your maelstrom staff, do you loose the extra spell damage?

yes, dont do that

Thats wrong you actually keep it like when running a poison on a VMA weapon

They fixed that ages ago. Or at least they should've. Are you sure? That would change the meta completely

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Spliffo wrote: »

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

pizzaow wrote: »

If you re-enchant your maelstrom staff, do you loose the extra spell damage?

yes, dont do that

Thats wrong you actually keep it like when running a poison on a VMA weapon

Yes don't listen to this

C4Bliss

I gave up on getting a sharp ia inferno