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Meta Sorc Rotation for Morrowind Discovered
Oreyn_Bearclaw
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Hi All,
I have been conducting some rather extensive testing on the PTS and believe I have arrived at the BIS mSorc rotation for PVE in end game trials:
Additionally, there is a more complicated version for max DPS assuming you are in a "pet-friendly" environment:
If you have any questions about the rotation, please let me know. I aim to please and will continue to update the build.
*artwork courtesy of @zomnomnombie AKA the ESO Picasso
I have been conducting some rather extensive testing on the PTS and believe I have arrived at the BIS mSorc rotation for PVE in end game trials:
Additionally, there is a more complicated version for max DPS assuming you are in a "pet-friendly" environment:
If you have any questions about the rotation, please let me know. I aim to please and will continue to update the build.
*artwork courtesy of @zomnomnombie AKA the ESO Picasso
Alliance/Platform: Ebonheart Pact - PC/NA - CP 1,300ish
My Toons:
DKs: Oreyn ßearclaw - Dunmer, Bear-m'Athra - Khajiit, Bearzilla - Argonian
Sorcs: Beary Jane - AR42- Breton, Bearricane - Orc, Molag Bear - Altmer
NBs: Bearclaw Oreyn - Dunmer, Bearblade - Bosmer, ßearblade - Dunmer (DC)
Temps: Gandalf Likes To Party - Altmer, Bearplar - Orc, Bearamedic - Argonian
Wardens: Warden Bearclaw - Altmer, Bear Jordan - Redguard, Bear's Hippie Girlfriend - Bosmer (DC)
Necros: Bearomancer - Dunmer, ßearßones - Orc, Bearona Virus - Breton
vKAHM, vSSHM, vCR+3, vAS+2, vHOFHM, vMOLHM, vSOHM, vHRCHM, vAAHM, vBRP, vDSA, Flawless Conqueror-All Classes
My Toons:
DKs: Oreyn ßearclaw - Dunmer, Bear-m'Athra - Khajiit, Bearzilla - Argonian
Sorcs: Beary Jane - AR42- Breton, Bearricane - Orc, Molag Bear - Altmer
NBs: Bearclaw Oreyn - Dunmer, Bearblade - Bosmer, ßearblade - Dunmer (DC)
Temps: Gandalf Likes To Party - Altmer, Bearplar - Orc, Bearamedic - Argonian
Wardens: Warden Bearclaw - Altmer, Bear Jordan - Redguard, Bear's Hippie Girlfriend - Bosmer (DC)
Necros: Bearomancer - Dunmer, ßearßones - Orc, Bearona Virus - Breton
vKAHM, vSSHM, vCR+3, vAS+2, vHOFHM, vMOLHM, vSOHM, vHRCHM, vAAHM, vBRP, vDSA, Flawless Conqueror-All Classes
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DHale✭✭✭✭✭
✭Looks to be the meta, I am thinking heavy lightning attacks front bar combined with heavy flame attack back bar. Then switch back and forth. When i have have a pot up I will use a skill or two.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc.
RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases.
Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Beacuse a 8 k shield is f ing useless.
Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew.
16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 1600 plus 16 level 50 toons.
NA, PC, Grey Host
#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly. -
AlcastClass RepresentativeLOL
Great, I will make sure to adjust my builds with this rotation. TY for conducting those tests!
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Worlds #1 vMoL Score 93699 in DB // Worlds #1 vSO Score 159083 in DB
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Worlds 1st Guild to complete ALL vMoL achievments // Worlds 1st vMoL clear [VR16] // Worlds 1st vMoL speed run [VR16]
Worlds 1st vMoL No-Death // Worlds 2nd vMoL HM
Worlds 1st vMSA Stamina Clear (Templar) // Worlds 1st vMSA Stamina no Death (DK) // Worlds 2nd vMSA Stamina no Death (NB)
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Great, I will make sure to adjust my builds with this rotation. TY for conducting those tests!
@Alcast
Sorry if I stepped on any toes. I wanted to see if I could beat you to the Meta just once.
Alliance/Platform: Ebonheart Pact - PC/NA - CP 1,300ish
My Toons:
DKs: Oreyn ßearclaw - Dunmer, Bear-m'Athra - Khajiit, Bearzilla - Argonian
Sorcs: Beary Jane - AR42- Breton, Bearricane - Orc, Molag Bear - Altmer
NBs: Bearclaw Oreyn - Dunmer, Bearblade - Bosmer, ßearblade - Dunmer (DC)
Temps: Gandalf Likes To Party - Altmer, Bearplar - Orc, Bearamedic - Argonian
Wardens: Warden Bearclaw - Altmer, Bear Jordan - Redguard, Bear's Hippie Girlfriend - Bosmer (DC)
Necros: Bearomancer - Dunmer, ßearßones - Orc, Bearona Virus - Breton
vKAHM, vSSHM, vCR+3, vAS+2, vHOFHM, vMOLHM, vSOHM, vHRCHM, vAAHM, vBRP, vDSA, Flawless Conqueror-All Classes -
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✭✭With one hand free, can I increase my Damage Per Sandwich?
"You get that blithe assumption that the status quo will always remain - or that this guy is so bad he's got to go. Neither are necessarily true, nor necessarily false." - Michael Kozak -
Ulquiorra82Soul ShrivenBest rotation ever!!! Thanks ZoSULO DPS SORC
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Walties99✭✭✭NordSwordnBoard wrote: »With one hand free, can I increase my Damage Per Sandwich?
That's theorycrafting. I'm in tears. -
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✭✭Don't tell anybody, but lit heavy attack synergyses with Skoria...Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
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✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
He is still busy fooling around trying to make stamina work so you might just become the EU Deltia 2.0! -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
He is still busy fooling around trying to make stamina work so you might just become the EU Deltia 2.0!
Haha, nice, lolz, gj! PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq -
Dao_Jones✭✭✭So, wait. Is it "Heavy, Heavy, Heavy"? Do I weave any Heavy attacks into my rotation? Do I need to clip my Heavy attacks with a Heavy attack?
This feels really complicated. I guess on the plus side, the drinking bird that used to manage my old rotation can now just focus on pet management for me.
You've played with the best... now play with the rest!
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✭✭✭✭✭So they just nerfed frags right off of our PVE bars. This post went from comedy to serious AF.
I don't want to play Heavy Attacks Online...Alliance/Platform: Ebonheart Pact - PC/NA - CP 1,300ish
My Toons:
DKs: Oreyn ßearclaw - Dunmer, Bear-m'Athra - Khajiit, Bearzilla - Argonian
Sorcs: Beary Jane - AR42- Breton, Bearricane - Orc, Molag Bear - Altmer
NBs: Bearclaw Oreyn - Dunmer, Bearblade - Bosmer, ßearblade - Dunmer (DC)
Temps: Gandalf Likes To Party - Altmer, Bearplar - Orc, Bearamedic - Argonian
Wardens: Warden Bearclaw - Altmer, Bear Jordan - Redguard, Bear's Hippie Girlfriend - Bosmer (DC)
Necros: Bearomancer - Dunmer, ßearßones - Orc, Bearona Virus - Breton
vKAHM, vSSHM, vCR+3, vAS+2, vHOFHM, vMOLHM, vSOHM, vHRCHM, vAAHM, vBRP, vDSA, Flawless Conqueror-All Classes -
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✭✭✭✭So, wait. Is it "Heavy, Heavy, Heavy"? Do I weave any Heavy attacks into my rotation? Do I need to clip my Heavy attacks with a Heavy attack?
This feels really complicated. I guess on the plus side, the drinking bird that used to manage my old rotation can now just focus on pet management for me.
That gif must be the nightblade spambush button...
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✭Waffennacht wrote: »I keep hearing about this frag nerf, yet can't find jack in the pts forum or anywhere, where is this coming from?
Said on ESO live that was advertised on The forum and twitch.
Sorcerna, proud beta sorc.
RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases.
Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Beacuse a 8 k shield is f ing useless.
Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew.
16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 1600 plus 16 level 50 toons.
NA, PC, Grey Host
#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly. -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »I keep hearing about this frag nerf, yet can't find jack in the pts forum or anywhere, where is this coming from?
Apparently they just said it on Eso live. I was not able to watch, but my discord is exploding. I actually think there is some misinformation running around. I dont think its as bad as I did, but its still a nerf. I read they were nerfing the proc chance to 10%, but what they said was that they were nerfing the bonus damage to 10% (from 20%). Admittedly, not nearly as bad as I thought.
Alliance/Platform: Ebonheart Pact - PC/NA - CP 1,300ish
My Toons:
DKs: Oreyn ßearclaw - Dunmer, Bear-m'Athra - Khajiit, Bearzilla - Argonian
Sorcs: Beary Jane - AR42- Breton, Bearricane - Orc, Molag Bear - Altmer
NBs: Bearclaw Oreyn - Dunmer, Bearblade - Bosmer, ßearblade - Dunmer (DC)
Temps: Gandalf Likes To Party - Altmer, Bearplar - Orc, Bearamedic - Argonian
Wardens: Warden Bearclaw - Altmer, Bear Jordan - Redguard, Bear's Hippie Girlfriend - Bosmer (DC)
Necros: Bearomancer - Dunmer, ßearßones - Orc, Bearona Virus - Breton
vKAHM, vSSHM, vCR+3, vAS+2, vHOFHM, vMOLHM, vSOHM, vHRCHM, vAAHM, vBRP, vDSA, Flawless Conqueror-All Classes -
Celas_Dranacea✭✭✭✭✭Looks to be the meta, I am thinking heavy lightning attacks front bar combined with heavy flame attack back bar. Then switch back and forth. When i have have a pot up I will use a skill or two.
Switching bars would require you to click and extra button every few seconds at the cost of .5 calories. This would require you to eat additional potato chip once every 5 hours thus decreasing rotation efficiency by .025%A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf -
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✭✭✭✭✭Player Base: "Hi ZoS, can you comment why X didn't receive a nerf?"
ZoS: Wh"at's that? We missed something? It's getting nerfed next patch."It's sad the update ZOS devotes to performance improvements has degraded Cyrodiil to lows not seen since the Infamous "Lighting Patch"" of June 2014. -
lonewolf26✭✭✭✭✭I see you figured out my sorc pet heavy attack build. PC-NA CP 1,700+
[*] Ronno - Khajiit Nightblade - AD - Stamina DPS / Crafter - Master Angler/Flawless Conqueror
[*] Rönnö - Breton Nightblade - DC - Magicka DPS - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer/Flawless Conqueror
[*] Wicked Glitch of the West - Altmer Sorceror - AD - Magicka DPS - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer/Flawless Conqueror
[*] Arashi Maesa - Breton Dragon Knight -AD - Magicka DPS - Flawless Conqueror
[*] Hoards-Many-Things - Argonian Dragon Knight - DC - Tank
[*] Andy Rune-eeh - Breton Templar - AD - Healer
[*] Ser Bob from Accounting - Redguard Dragon Knight - AD - Stamina DPS
[*] Kittynado - Khajiit Sorceror - AD - Stamina DPS - Flawless Conqueror
[*] JimmyJJShabadu - Breton Templar - AD - Magicka DPS - Flawless Conqueror -
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✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Hi All,
I have been conducting some rather extensive testing on the PTS and believe I have arrived at the BIS mSorc rotation for PVE in end game trials:
Additionally, there is a more complicated version for max DPS assuming you are in a "pet-friendly" environment:
If you have any questions about the rotation, please let me know. I aim to please and will continue to update the build.
*artwork courtesy of @zomnomnombie AKA the ESO Picasso
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✭✭These gold elegant rings are going to make me rich in 2 months.
4 mill ap well spent! -
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✭✭✭✭✭KingYogi415 wrote: »These gold elegant rings are going to make me rich in 2 months.
4 mill ap well spent!
I definitely bought a few just in case. Although, if elegant really becomes BIS, it means that Heavy Attacks have in fact become meta. If that's the case, I will probably play through Morrowind for the memories and call it quits after that.Alliance/Platform: Ebonheart Pact - PC/NA - CP 1,300ish
My Toons:
DKs: Oreyn ßearclaw - Dunmer, Bear-m'Athra - Khajiit, Bearzilla - Argonian
Sorcs: Beary Jane - AR42- Breton, Bearricane - Orc, Molag Bear - Altmer
NBs: Bearclaw Oreyn - Dunmer, Bearblade - Bosmer, ßearblade - Dunmer (DC)
Temps: Gandalf Likes To Party - Altmer, Bearplar - Orc, Bearamedic - Argonian
Wardens: Warden Bearclaw - Altmer, Bear Jordan - Redguard, Bear's Hippie Girlfriend - Bosmer (DC)
Necros: Bearomancer - Dunmer, ßearßones - Orc, Bearona Virus - Breton
vKAHM, vSSHM, vCR+3, vAS+2, vHOFHM, vMOLHM, vSOHM, vHRCHM, vAAHM, vBRP, vDSA, Flawless Conqueror-All Classes -
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✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »These gold elegant rings are going to make me rich in 2 months.
4 mill ap well spent!
I definitely bought a few just in case. Although, if elegant really becomes BIS, it means that Heavy Attacks have in fact become meta. If that's the case, I will probably play through Morrowind for the memories and call it quits after that.
Not sure why people think elegant will be a thing...whybwould you equip a set that buffs a single part of your dps by a small amt. For sorcs the meta will still remain necro, for DKs and the such nothing will change either...for elegant to be better than the next best set heavy attacka would have to be something akin to 40-50% of their dps, whoch wont ever be the case woth all of the DoTs available to botj of the classes. -
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Question, Senpai:
I'm on console and have never seen the thing you masterfully painted. Can I cheese that thing? Or am I now forever doomed to be a low-life dps and can only restore my honour by commiting Sudoku, despite my inability to count to the number that comes after eight?
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aLi3nZ✭✭✭✭How about just adapting and using a set for magika recovery or switching to witches brew?
I plan to use amberplasm plus astronanch for pvp. And thinking about 3x or 4x twighlight remedy for pve. Same as moondancer just 126 recovery instead of 967 max magika. Also have gone off using pets for pvp. I have found it's just as easy to get super high max magika (50k) by using 4x necropotence and mage light + bound agies. Still room for mages wrath and curse on back barEdited by aLi3nZ on May 2, 2017 2:18AM
