NB Strife change PVP

seanj87

I would like to suggest/request that ZOS change to heal aspect of strife and its morphs to a fix value rather than a percentage value as it currently is.

The reason being is that in PVP magblades are being double punished by the 50% damage reduction and 50% heal reduction.

Examples.

Damage / heal calc base on 30% heal ratio (the percent changes dependent on setup but is around 25 - 30%) and 7500 damage

PVE 7500 dmg | 2250 heal ((7500 dmg / 100) * 30)

PVP 3750 dmg (7500 / 2) | 563 heal (((7500 dmg / 2) / 100) * 30) / 2)

Now if the heal was a fixed amount that is equal to 30% of the mark up dmg instead of the dmg done, that would be;

PVP 3750 dmg (7500 / 2) | 1125 heal ((7500 dmg / 100) * 30) / 2)

As far as i have seen, no other class is double punished like this for entering PVP and it seems a little unfair, particularly when magblade is considered possibly the weakest setup.

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If i have miscalculated or am misinformed i humbly apologies and would appreciate being told so.

Xvorg

Strife heal is based on dmg done, theres no double nerf.

NightbladeMechanics

Yea the heal bypasses battle spirit because the damage is already filtered through it. All heals based on damage done function this way.

I get 4-6k funnel heals all the time, and even hit 8k on an ally with one big deeps build.

seanj87

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Yea the heal bypasses battle spirit because the damage is already filtered through it. All heals based on damage done function this way.

I get 4-6k funnel heals all the time, and even hit 8k on an ally with one big deeps build.

Right, ok. I didn't know is works that way with battle spirit. My ticks seem to suggest the math was correct, but the overall tick/dmg ratio would suggest i was wrong.

thank you for clarifying, it wud help if the battle spirit blurb mentioned this though

NightbladeMechanics

seanj87 wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Yea the heal bypasses battle spirit because the damage is already filtered through it. All heals based on damage done function this way.

I get 4-6k funnel heals all the time, and even hit 8k on an ally with one big deeps build.

Right, ok. I didn't know is works that way with battle spirit. My ticks seem to suggest the math was correct, but the overall tick/dmg ratio would suggest i was wrong.

thank you for clarifying, it wud help if the battle spirit blurb mentioned this though

No problem. It would help if tooltips clarified this, yes.

For future reference, all heals based on damage dealt bypass battle spirit because the damage is already affected by it.

Xvorg

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

seanj87 wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Yea the heal bypasses battle spirit because the damage is already filtered through it. All heals based on damage done function this way.

I get 4-6k funnel heals all the time, and even hit 8k on an ally with one big deeps build.

Right, ok. I didn't know is works that way with battle spirit. My ticks seem to suggest the math was correct, but the overall tick/dmg ratio would suggest i was wrong.

thank you for clarifying, it wud help if the battle spirit blurb mentioned this though

No problem. It would help if tooltips clarified this, yes.

For future reference, all heals based on damage dealt bypass battle spirit because the damage is already affected by it.

And that was a hell of a fight that we finally won... (just to lose the war at the end)

Capt_Morgan

I just realized moving to heavy attack builds will make funnel health spamming MagBlade DPS/Off Heal a thing of the past... Oh well, add that to more unique class defining thing lost this patch.