ZOS what are the perks of being a loyal member since launch or even over a year ?

jroc699_burr

So if i grind to cp 600 within the first 2 months of playing and max out all my skills in sky reach and grind for my gear what sets me apart form someone playing since launch or over a year dedicated ?

Daemons_Bane

There are no loyalty rewards anymore.. Now we get crowns instead

DHale

The honor of getting nerfs to all the gear spent three years getting.

Flaminir

You get the experience & knowledge of how the game works and therefore the ability to adapt to the changes each patch, rather than having to cry that the sky is falling with every DLC

Khenarthi

Also, bragging rights. Just link those achievements you gained at pre-launch (March 2014) on chat, then bask in the glory of having spent over 3 years on the same character. Or whatever.

Kay1

Animation canceling, is pretty much the end game content, once you master you're on another level and a 2 month player will never cancel like an old player.

Knowledge, a 2 month player will never fight like an old player in both PvE and PvP but especially in PvP because it harder than PvE and requires you to be very smart (not if you zerg ofc) to use the environment and also knowing all the classes you're fighting helps a lot, a player that plays all classes is on another level compared to one that just play one.

Prestige, for some it will may be stupid but after a time playing you will become known in your server if you are a good, and becoming well known for being a top raider or a top a PvP can take many years, is not a real reward but once a zerg of 30 players just go through you because they are scared of fighting you then you will understand the reward.

Flaminir

Ooooh... I know another one!

friends!

When you've been here a while then as long as you have taken it as an MMO and not just solo quested your way through the game then you are more likely to have met a group of friends/guildies/community to play with!

A nice group of people to play with is at least 75% of the enjoyment of the game for me personally, & I can count a number of people in the game as genuine friends now... not just random strangers who I run the occasional dungeon with

Hazethemadman

You make a good point.

That is actually the reason I quit Destiny. I worked so hard for so many hours to get the best gear in season 1 and upgrade it all to max...
-THEN-
They drop season 2 and give everyone an easy chance to upgrade their gear to the s2 tier at little cost, making all that upgrading in s1 completely worthless. There wasnt even the tiniest bonus for all that hard work.

A good game needs to recognize loyal and dedicated players - NOT bend over for impatient people demanding instant gratification.

Agalloch

Yes..we need rewards for vets...

badmojo

I've got a monkey

6lackzeu5

You get a nerf!!

Shad0wfire99

You get to be nerfed into the ground. Yay.

Potenza

Flaminir wrote: »

Ooooh... I know another one!

friends!

When you've been here a while then as long as you have taken it as an MMO and not just solo quested your way through the game then you are more likely to have met a group of friends/guildies/community to play with!

A nice group of people to play with is at least 75% of the enjoyment of the game for me personally, & I can count a number of people in the game as genuine friends now... not just random strangers who I run the occasional dungeon with

This is what sets you apart from someone who just joined. You have all the added benefits of having those friends when you need game information, tips and help - you become the better player.

jroc699_burr

yep ive met some awesome people on here and play with them all the time for sure also @Kay1 do u play console im rally bad at pvp and i need to learn how to duel

socivL

jroc699_burr wrote: »

yep ive met some awesome people on here and play with them all the time for sure also @Kay1 do u play console im rally bad at pvp and i need to learn how to duel

you need to learn to animation cancel - thats all pvp is.

Turelus

jroc699_burr wrote: »

So if i grind to cp 600 within the first 2 months of playing and max out all my skills in sky reach and grind for my gear what sets me apart form someone playing since launch or over a year dedicated ?

The years of fun and memories you made?

Potenza

And another thing you have over a new player - you most likely have alot more gold. And if your ESO + you should have a ton of mats and the crafting skills leveled up to use those mats.

Kode

What should set a veteran apart?

I think I have a beta monkey pet (maybe a senche mount that was a reward... not sure)... nothing meaningful. I think they are on the right track with that though, vets shouldn't get anything of actual value that has an impact on actual gameplay. They should get better prestige items though, cool looking appearance items, ect.
The problem with most games is, they just overshadow their veteran rewards with cash shop items. I understand but the value of something cool and original for a veteran loses its value when everyone with a spare 5-10$ has the same thing or even better.

A perfect model would be a yearly reward system which delivers a choice of a cool item that can only be gained for that year anniversary. I also believe that achievement points should have rewards associated with them too, it is a pretty meaningless system currently. Tie some mount skins, pets, spell effects, or costumes to it and it might make people care... but that is a different subject I guess... and hopefully in due time. Honestly, ESO is a fledgling game still with probably 10 years or more ahead of it.

Kay1

jroc699_burr wrote: »

yep ive met some awesome people on here and play with them all the time for sure also @Kay1 do u play console im rally bad at pvp and i need to learn how to duel

Yes I do!

Dueling won't teach you a lot, but that's my opinion of course if you want to learn a lot for PvP I highly recommend you watching videos, there's thousands of godlike players who upload their best clips every week and I've learned a lot from watching videos, you will learn combos, positioning and mechanics that are very important like interrupting a skill, if you are new you will learn which skills have counters so uou will learn a lot!

socivL wrote: »

jroc699_burr wrote: »

yep ive met some awesome people on here and play with them all the time for sure also @Kay1 do u play console im rally bad at pvp and i need to learn how to duel

you need to learn to animation cancel - thats all pvp is.

I have to disagree, positioning, mechanics knowledge, use of the environment, perma self buff are key to any successful PvPr and all of those are very hard to learn, animation canceling is also key of course.

Doctordarkspawn

Flaminir wrote: »

You get the experience & knowledge of how the game works and therefore the ability to adapt to the changes each patch, rather than having to cry that the sky is falling with every DLC

And the tired question of 'what's the point' that makes you not wanna bother.

Seriously, enough with the projection and strawmanning. Stop lying about peoples positions.

Faulgor

Your perk is the experience not to trust the PR.

Tandor

These days it seems that you accumulate Entitlement.

Seriously, why do people even worry about things like loyalty perks? If I've played for twice as long as someone else then it means I've enjoyed the game for twice as long as them. That's good enough for me.

Cêltic421

Why does their needs to be perks for playing a game you enjoy.

Kodrac

6lackzeu5 wrote: »

You get a nerf!!

And you get a nerf! And you get a nerf! Everyone gets a nerf!

Tholian1

The perk is all the hours of enjoyment the game has given you.

DanaDark

Playing a game should be for enjoyment and recreation.

If you find you are done with the game after 2 months, then that's that.

It is well known that it is impossible to add content faster than players burn through it. So, it is expected that in time, player numbers creep down until new content is added, bringing back players that left only to wait for new content.

Overall, if you insist on being rewarded for doing something you already enjoy doing, you'll have to find your own personal accomplishments that bring you joy.

wimhwimladimf

If you played since beta you get a monkey pet

Fleshreaper

jroc699_burr wrote: »

So if i grind to cp 600 within the first 2 months of playing and max out all my skills in sky reach and grind for my gear what sets me apart form someone playing since launch or over a year dedicated ?

Your reward for paying for entertainment is being entertained. O_O

clocksstoppe

Your perk is that you get to pay 50 bucks for the new dlc instead of getting it with eso+ as you should.

rotaugen454

I got a rock...

GreasyDave

rotaugen454 wrote: »

I got a rock...

You get an awesome!