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The Markarth DLC and Update 28 base game patch are now available to test on the PTS! Read the full patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts/

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kalimar44
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What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.
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  • Majeure
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    kalimar44 wrote: »
    having our input except to find bugs.
    That's all it is, constructive feedback or bug reports.
    Edited by Majeure on April 21, 2017 7:47AM
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  • Nyladreas
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    kalimar44 wrote: »
    What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.

    Well you know.... the problem here is that the actual beta testers are so far quite happy with the changes XDDDD

    Don't think this is gunna happen :P
    Edited by Nyladreas on April 21, 2017 5:23AM
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    kalimar44 wrote: »
    What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.

    Well you know.... the problem here is that the actual beta testers are so far quite happy with the changes XDDDD

    Don't think this is gunna happen :P

    dont think so
    Raising floors and lower ceilings by zos standards has created an iron maiden.
    No matter how well you played,when the game is over,the king and pawn go back in the same box.
    Be careful what you ask for from zo$, you always get punished.
    Call me toxic,your the one being slowly poisoned by greed.
  • Nyladreas
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    kalimar44 wrote: »
    What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.

    Well you know.... the problem here is that the actual beta testers are so far quite happy with the changes XDDDD

    Don't think this is gunna happen :P

    dont think so

    Just look at all the latest info from the partial lift. A LOT of people that were hating ZOS now have completely opposite opinions based on their own testing.
    S'Dahrra of Pellitine [PC] <-> [EU] Blood for the Pact
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    "The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past."
    "One who dreams of becoming a king, should first become a man."
  • Marabornwingrion
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    kalimar44 wrote: »
    What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.

    Well you know.... the problem here is that the actual beta testers are so far quite happy with the changes XDDDD

    Don't think this is gunna happen :P

    dont think so

    Just look at all the latest info from the partial lift. A LOT of people that were hating ZOS now have completely opposite opinions based on their own testing.

    ive been testing, still not happy, sorry

    ^ same here.
  • Shader_Shibes
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    This whole PTS, closed beta invite is just there for us to find bugs for ZOS, any feedback on the changes will go through 1 ear of ZOS and straight out the other.
    Edited by Shader_Shibes on April 21, 2017 7:47AM
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    I imagine they would give subbers more bag space...
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    It depends what the sound is.

    If it's the sound of a thousand whining babies pooping their pants they'll probably get some ear plugs (might want nose ones as well).

    If it's the celestial singing of PTS testing with the soothing sounds of numbers and facts then they might indulge for a while.
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  • Runschei
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    kalimar44 wrote: »
    What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.

    Well you know.... the problem here is that the actual beta testers are so far quite happy with the changes XDDDD

    Don't think this is gunna happen :P

    And how many beta testers have you spoken with?
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  • playsforfun
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    doubtful they already have an idea how they want to go forward it's very unlikely they'd go back on it,
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    kalimar44 wrote: »
    What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.

    But we aren't we are working with the changes and finding ways to enjoy the new changes. Yes there's still issues, but the changes will have a positive impact.
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    kalimar44 wrote: »
    What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.

    Well you know.... the problem here is that the actual beta testers are so far quite happy with the changes XDDDD

    Don't think this is gunna happen :P

    dont think so

    Just look at all the latest info from the partial lift. A LOT of people that were hating ZOS now have completely opposite opinions based on their own testing.

    Don't spread lies just to make a point.
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  • austinwalter87ub17_ESO
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    The people whom are happy are happy because its radically different. Within a month they'll hate it when they start to see the problems caused by the changes. They lack the foresight to see where the changes lead us to.
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  • hmsdragonfly
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    The people whom are happy are happy because its radically different. Within a month they'll hate it when they start to see the problems caused by the changes. They lack the foresight to see where the changes lead us to.

    Well I can say the opposite.

    The people whom are not happy are unhappy because its radically different. Within a month they'll realize it's actually good for the game. They lack the foresight to see where the changes lead us to.
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  • sadownik
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    @hmsdragonfly i will remind you that in 1 month after morrowind release.
  • MrSaxon
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    It's never best to listen to mass hysteria, which is often what happens on MMO threads. One person hears something from someone else and then, before you know it, a whole lot of people are shouting. The PTS exists so people can test out the changes for themselves and suggest amendments. From what I hear, the reaction there is quite different to the reaction by the Reddit / Social media crowd who are busy posting fake funerals or what-have-you.
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    sadownik wrote: »
    @hmsdragonfly i will remind you that in 1 month after morrowind release.

    Thanks, and a reminder: I am talking about all the changes in general, I don't agree with many of them. Don't nitpick a single thing, we are talking about the overall environment of the game.
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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    kalimar44 wrote: »
    What will ZOS do if a overwhelming amount of pts players tell them this update is to much of a drastic change and it needs to be toned down? Will they listen, and if not what the point of even having our input except to find bugs.

    i would not use the word drastic to describe the changes..... dramatic however does fit.

    it opens up a load more opportunities for varying play styles. i'm loving it.
    pc eu eso+

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    @jedtb16_ESO im sorry besides the value changes and all the things i feel are wrong in this patch, homogenization is one of them. I already do feel classes are not distinct enough and "play as you want" approach will just make that feeling stronger.
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