3 years later my first post.

Malic

I was here in beta, I remember grinding VR ranks. I remember Craglorn when it first dropped. I remember angry joe's horrible review. I remember sorcs could streak forever. I remember GOD (DK VAMP EMPERORS). I remember Crown and his zergs. I remember ganks, meta's you name it I lived through it and adapted on my magicka templar. I used every trick in the book beside cheats in this game. Every Meta build, every poison, proc sets, spamming jesus beam. I've had a lot of fun times.

I am no saint. I zerged. I solo'd, I gank noobs in IC that were PVE grinders. I used every OP set and tested. I ran around with 5 BR, 5LICH with monster and spammed BOL. Like I said I am no saint. After 3 years though I think I am done.

Ya Jesus beam needed a nerf, but you screwed it up and left the range. BOL was cheese, you could hit it through walls (still can). Those two skills were OP (still are if used correctly) but plenty of classes have had or have OP skills, its not exclusive to Templar. So 3 years in I look at morrowwind and I realize I dont want to do redo templar anymore. I can survive it, I mean its been nerfed hard but im not in overreact mode panic like some of the community (deltia).

Im just tired of every patch you cant seem to get things sorted out. on and on and on and on, I mean it never seems to end there is always an issue. I get whats happened, the game has been dumbed down and made simplier for casuals and console. Something in beta we were assured wouldnt happen, but again I survived. I have no faith in you zos that you can actually implement these changes without something else being unbalanced to the point of absurdity. The last few patches havent been good for PVP and frankly ive had enough of playing second fiddle.

Although taking to doors off of the resources towers was a great change to cyro, bravo.

Who am I? No one special, rank and file Colonel magi templar been paying sub fees for years to support you and your game. Im not great at ESO, im not bad either some nights Im stellar. Other nights I get rolled. I am however someone who is tired of your inability to produce a good pvp product. Ive given you a fair shot, time is up.

Ill still log on from time to time but if Templars are going to be nerfed this much it frustrating experience (in PVP), for me, just became a lot less fun. I dont have time to check out the PTS I work a lot, but thanks for the invite. I rely on your patch notes I read them at work sometimes. So far most of your notes make it into the game, at least in the past.

Anyway 3 years later, LOL.

[minor edit for context]

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Thanks for a lot of fun times, Ill still log on from time to time but if Templars are going to be nerfed this much it frustrating experience (in PVP), for me, just became a lot less fun

This implies he is NOT quitting. Therefore, this is NOT a quit thread. It just shows another paying customer that is dissatisfied with how ZOS just doesn't get PvP and keeps nerfing things while keeping the champion system that is ruining the game.


So instead of censoring and closing threads like this one (that aren't even quit threads) why can't we talk about why the ESO population continues to get disillusioned in this game and what we can do about it.

That way we can have a constructive thread. I think these patch changes sucked the life out of lots of people. We may not quit, but we definitely won't log in as much.

ZOS doesn't understand the community. The changes are terrible.

MasterSpatula

I certainly understand where OP is coming from. These patch notes do read like someone's actively trying to make the game less fun.

imnotanother

These threads are not constructive though. OP does not suggest an idea or what they are upset about. Just states what they do when they play and how they are quitting because they don't want to adapt their character to change.

Close this thread like the rest of them.

Majeure

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

I think these patch changes sucked the life out of lots of people. We may not quit, but we definitely won't log in as much.

ZOS doesn't understand the community. The changes are terrible.

Yeah, not much else to say, but this. Wrobel's revenge is real.

lauykanson

People will always find a way to overcome that's for sure. But just because I can overcome an exam doesn't mean I enjoy doing it time after time. Some stuff in patch notes like major mending nerf and light/medium armor nerf should not go live.

ArchMikem

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

So instead of censoring and closing threads like this one (that aren't even quit threads) why can't we talk about why the ESO population continues to get disillusioned in this game and what we can do about it.

Brutal honesty is people can't stand not getting what they want, especially more so if what they already have gets taken away, (via some nerf or outright removal in a patch). Once or twice people can deal. If it keeps happening with every patch, these people are going to start acting like ZOS is out to get them, like they're intentionally making the game terrible (for them), and if it's terrible for them, it's just plain terrible.

Then comes the "I'm leaving" threads, and the "Fix this or else" threads from people that resort to last ditch efforts, for example thinking passive aggressive threats will usher in beneficial changes or actions.

Truth is though guys this isn't our game, it's ZOS's game. We don't own any part of it, and we have no right to expect our opinions and suggestions will be thrown into the game without consideration. It's just a video game. If people are upset with it or don't enjoy it, then they put it down and find something else to play, just like with any other video game out there. I'm not telling OP to leave. I'm pointing out the logical action for OP to take.

I personally, have SO MANY issues with ESO. There have been so many nights that have infuriated me and made me quit and do something else or go to bed. Just last night the lag in Cyrodiil was so atrocious I got furious. Pressing buttons that don't do anything, losing fights because your character didn't cast what you told them to. But what I understand is this game is a constant work in progress. ZOS will be patching and updating for as long as this game remains alive, and that means I can retain faith that these issues will eventually be resolved one day.

I mean honestly, what for profit company wants to intentionally run their product into the ground?

tl;dr: If you want to keep playing, then please just deal with how the game is? It used to be a LOT worse than it is.

Publius_Scipio

Welcome to the forums

ForsakenSin

Im with OP

I got the limited ed when it came out on xbox one and got many of my friends playing it, i got a temp sorc dk and nb so im not bias going with only one class , this affects many of my friends who have already said they will quit.

I already got the morrowind ordered the limited ed with statue and with this patch i heard many of my comrades in guilds leaving the game, and i know people will adapt and i can jump on my sorc , but loosing friends who just had enough ...with constant nerf changes . me im with op i will unsub this week and go casual every now and then and see what happens.....

there are many things we were looking forward to , Jewel crafting , two handed been as 2 items slots, tokens for VMA , fixed group finder that is broken , lag ect ect ect and yet what we get ? nerferd so people will play warden class.

such a shame

Mutagem

Where are these infamous patch notes I am hearing about?

AzraelKrieg

They are on the PTS forum @Mutagem

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Mutagem wrote: »

Where are these infamous patch notes I am hearing about?

All you need to know about the patch notes is that the champion system continues to destroy the game via power creep. CP gives people ridiculous sustain, blocking, damage reduction and other things and everyone pretty much specs the same.

So ZOS Nerfed CP a little bit but also destroyed longstanding and iconic class skills that were perfectly balanced before CP and the removal of softcaps.

We have been paying for the CP system and removal of softcaps every patch with nerf after nerf of unique interesting class skills.

ZOS can't seem to figure out that they need to nerf numbers not skills. For example, instead of nerfing how much stamina certain skills return based on size of stam pool, nerf the stam pools. When this game had softcaps, people ran around with equivalent 25k max resource pools and the game was fine.

But instead, every patch, ZOS keeps destroying unique class skills and passives until one day the only way classes will differ is by their particle effects.

You shoot blue lazers? must be a sorc.
Yellow lazers, must be a templar.

Color diversity FTW.

ParaNostram

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Thanks for a lot of fun times, Ill still log on from time to time but if Templars are going to be nerfed this much it frustrating experience (in PVP), for me, just became a lot less fun

This implies he is NOT quitting. Therefore, this is NOT a quit thread. It just shows another paying customer that is dissatisfied with how ZOS just doesn't get PvP and keeps nerfing things while keeping the champion system that is ruining the game.


So instead of censoring and closing threads like this one (that aren't even quit threads) why can't we talk about why the ESO population continues to get disillusioned in this game and what we can do about it.

That way we can have a constructive thread. I think these patch changes sucked the life out of lots of people. We may not quit, but we definitely won't log in as much.

ZOS doesn't understand the community. The changes are terrible.

Personally after reading the changes I was personally excited at the prospect of maybe trying it out, but then I am an odd one.

Malic

So to the people who replied thanks. I get it, you dont want to see more whine threads about patch notes. Guilty as charged but let me say this, Ive been here a long time in game. There were many points I could have come here and complained but I didnt, I adapted and changed. I took time off, I talked things out in guild chats, I watched streamers when I could to improve and cope with the crap that got into game.

I guess Im just tired of every patch there are nearly hundreds of changes that make it nearly impossible to gauge impact. I mean somethings were easy, ya jesus beam was OP, any templar that told you it wasnt was lying. So sure you nerf it. The problem here is I cant make sense of all the changes in application.

Its going to take months of actually playing the game to figure out whats happened. I could watch streamers but honestly most of them are fanboi's, you could serve them poop and they'd tell you its caviar. Anyway Im digressing.

So why did I post this? I dont know I guess I wanted ZOS to know that ive had enough. I know "you wont be missed" add this to the thousands of other threads right? I guess my real hope was something to keep me around beyond logging in once in a while. When this game came out I played it everyday. I was happy to pay the sub, even when it went B2P and I didnt need the crafting bag I coped without one for years.

Here's hoping all these nerf's dont go in. Im not buying the warden to be OP and Im not running around in cyrodiil anymore knowing that the best I will be able to do will never be good enough against the FOTM class. Again Im not the best player but I am certainly not the worst.

Please reconsider the nerf's all at once, its to much.

Molydeus

A reasonable post, OP. You are just one voice but there are many others who feel as you do and simply abandon the game instead of talking about it. ZOS would do well to listen to voices like yours, because you are one of many.

Julianos

Quit the game at homestead release because im sick and tired how the game change every few months im a player but i feel like zos play with me instead. Ignores my efforts and everything as they please in my book this is not acceptable.

Zvorgin

I think the point is that they blow up major game mechanics every patch and it gets tiresome. Especially when you combine it with the ridiculous rng grind to refarm gear. These drastic changes every patch cycle are too much, especially when they don't address the underlying problem which is the CP system itself.

Julianos

Zvorgin wrote: »

I think the point is that they blow up major game mechanics every patch and it gets tiresome. Especially when you combine it with the ridiculous rng grind to refarm gear. These drastic changes every patch cycle are too much, especially when they don't address the underlying problem which is the CP system itself.

exactly

Splattercat_83

imnotanother wrote: »

These threads are not constructive though. OP does not suggest an idea or what they are upset about. Just states what they do when they play and how they are quitting because they don't want to adapt their character to change.

Close this thread like the rest of them.

It's been suggested over and over, we should give feed back but shouldn't have to tell them how to do their job.

Malic

Zvorgin wrote: »

I think the point is that they blow up major game mechanics every patch and it gets tiresome. Especially when you combine it with the ridiculous rng grind to refarm gear. These drastic changes every patch cycle are too much, especially when they don't address the underlying problem which is the CP system itself.

You know I probably should have chatted with you first before I started the thread. This succinctly says what I attempted to in the posts I made. I put a lot of time into the game, I wouldnt have posted if I didnt give a poop.

Waffennacht

I would feel bad until you said us console players (or at least having the opportunity to play the game) was a part of the problem.

Anyway, I'm glad it went to console. That's what I have to say.