ESO is the best MMO 2017

Castle117

PS4 and PC versions are exceedingly fun and interesting with each update. The expansion later this year will be the icing-on-the-cake.

I started with UO and EQ 18+ years ago. When WOW was released i felt that it was what EQ should have been. I now am getting the same feeling about ESO being the game WoW should have been....

A lot of challenges ahead for ESO, but if they play it right, MMOs maybe back.

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Thanks.

Balamoor

Castle117 wrote: »

PS4 and PC versions are exceedingly fun and interesting with each update. The expansion later this year will be the icing-on-the-cake.

I started with UO and EQ 18+ years ago. When WOW was released i felt that it was what EQ should have been. I now am getting the same feeling about ESO being the game WoW should have been....

A lot of challenges ahead for ESO, but if they play it right, MMOs maybe back.

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Thanks.

Awesome nice to see some positivism.....of course the usual suspects will be by to tear it all down soon.

But if it's any consolation the vast majority of people agree with you, Iv'e seen entire WoW guilds make the switch because they were tired of the raid or die/ esports mentality.

Ariades_swe

As of now its 15 k steam users online on pc.
Last summer it was max 5k.
Game is doing great.

Vanthras79

Ariades_swe wrote: »

As of now its 15 k steam users online on pc.
Last summer it was max 5k.
Game is doing great.

That is great. This game has so much potential.

Castle117 wrote: »

PS4 and PC versions are exceedingly fun and interesting with each update. The expansion later this year will be the icing-on-the-cake.

I started with UO and EQ 18+ years ago. When WOW was released i felt that it was what EQ should have been. I now am getting the same feeling about ESO being the game WoW should have been....

A lot of challenges ahead for ESO, but if they play it right, MMOs maybe back.

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Thanks.

Totally agree with you.

Violynne

Castle117 wrote: »

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Not going to happen.

EQ and Wow had something ESO doesn't: subscribers.

Without a guaranteed minimum of revenue to support long term projects, ESO is more likely to turn F2P rather than MMO.

It's a sad truth to accept, but if we want ESO to be good, subscriptions must become mandatory, not optional.

Then, ZoS can ditch Crown crates and focus on making goods we can spend our Crowns on which comes with subscriptions.

rotaugen454

I probably wouldn't have plunked down $400 in crowns if I didn't agree.

Argawarga

If they fixed performance in Cyrodiil, I'd agree. As it stands the game is broken.

ku5h

I would like to think like you, but cant. Reason being, Im waiting since Homestead launch (over 2 months) for bug fix on class defining skill to be fixed (streak) and all we got from ZoS is "We are looking in to it!" like month ago. That should be totally unacceptable for MMO of the year. Worst thing, it's not an isolated even, but common practice.

QuebraRegra

Violynne wrote: »

Castle117 wrote: »

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Not going to happen.

EQ and Wow had something ESO doesn't: subscribers.

Without a guaranteed minimum of revenue to support long term projects, ESO is more likely to turn F2P rather than MMO.

It's a sad truth to accept, but if we want ESO to be good, subscriptions must become mandatory, not optional.

Then, ZoS can ditch Crown crates and focus on making goods we can spend our Crowns on which comes with subscriptions.

I agree with your assessment. I've been in enuff MMOs that made the transition to F2P that I know what that road looks like. Everybody should take a look at that tread where the LOTRO dev talked about the changes to that game and made reference to ESO.

Let's all wager and revisit this thread in a year and see if we're not already F2P, then it will be announced as a future intention.

Greed has NO bounds. In fairness ZOS is like all the other companies, they can make more from the whales with the things like crowns then they can with a sub model which requires them to maintain real value in the game to keep subs. Basically, they can put ESO on cruise control and profit with the standard F2P MMO models just churning out low quality cosmetics, and nickle&dime for QOL features.

How much of Morrowind is actually new fresh development? We know the WARDEN class was already in game since its ALPHA, so that's code from dumpster diving I think battlegrounds were at least a concept early on as well? What's the size of the current dev team? do they have the muscle needed to innovate and generate fresh content to keep the game in at least a B2P mode?

Yep, for now, and the foreseeable future there are definitely new players, but give it a little time and let's see where it goes.

sarbonn

I'm enjoying the game and want great things to happen for it, but I'd be dishonest if I didn't admit that every time I play the game, I keep waiting for an "Oh, wow!" moment to occur. And that hasn't happened yet. I really enjoy the explore part of the game (although that could still be better) and the thought that there's always something around the corner that might just amaze me. There seems like so much potential that might just lead to something awesome.

Unlike those who would complain about this, I'm holding out hope that this is either somewhere in the game, or that the developers will sit down one day and construct it so that it causes people to rush out and tell their friends the elusive statement of "Oh, man, you have GOT to play this game."

Tornaad

Castle117 wrote: »

PS4 and PC versions are exceedingly fun and interesting with each update. The expansion later this year will be the icing-on-the-cake.

I started with UO and EQ 18+ years ago. When WOW was released i felt that it was what EQ should have been. I now am getting the same feeling about ESO being the game WoW should have been....

A lot of challenges ahead for ESO, but if they play it right, MMOs maybe back.

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Thanks.

With ESO I went from never playing an MMO and never wanting to ever play one, to where not only do I play one but I happily subscribe to an optional subscription connected with it. So I can agree with your post. Thank you for the positivism.

Edit:
I wonder if they did get that many expansions if we would see an expansion to one of the other continents on Nirn. That would be kind of neat.

Browiseth

Balamoor wrote: »

Castle117 wrote: »

PS4 and PC versions are exceedingly fun and interesting with each update. The expansion later this year will be the icing-on-the-cake.

I started with UO and EQ 18+ years ago. When WOW was released i felt that it was what EQ should have been. I now am getting the same feeling about ESO being the game WoW should have been....

A lot of challenges ahead for ESO, but if they play it right, MMOs maybe back.

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Thanks.

Awesome nice to see some positivism.....of course the usual suspects will be by to tear it all down soon.

@Balamoor oh what, everyone isn't blindly happy and accepting all the time regardless of the quality of what is being paid for?

come on guys, it's just a game. just pretend everything is okay, be positive! just ignore all the bad that's going on with this game, be positive!

do you see why this is a bad mindset, [SNIp]

[Edited for Insults]

magictucktuck

Violynne wrote: »

Castle117 wrote: »

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Not going to happen.

EQ and Wow had something ESO doesn't: subscribers.

Without a guaranteed minimum of revenue to support long term projects, ESO is more likely to turn F2P rather than MMO.

It's a sad truth to accept, but if we want ESO to be good, subscriptions must become mandatory, not optional.

Then, ZoS can ditch Crown crates and focus on making goods we can spend our Crowns on which comes with subscriptions.

On Xbox one, i don't know one person in my 500 man guild who is not subscribed... now im sure there are some in there that don't talk who are not but I'm willing to bet more people than not are subscribed.

Nestor

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Let's all wager and revisit this thread in a year and see if we're not already F2P, then it will be announced as a future intention.

This very same statement has been made every 3 or 4 months since Beta. I guess if you keep making the same statement every 3 or 4 months, you might be right in decade or so.

Vanthras79

Nestor wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Let's all wager and revisit this thread in a year and see if we're not already F2P, then it will be announced as a future intention.

This very same statement has been made every 3 or 4 months since Beta. I guess if you keep making the same statement every 3 or 4 months, you might be right in decade or so.

Nice one @Nestor.

QuebraRegra

Nestor wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Let's all wager and revisit this thread in a year and see if we're not already F2P, then it will be announced as a future intention.

This very same statement has been made every 3 or 4 months since Beta. I guess if you keep making the same statement every 3 or 4 months, you might be right in decade or so.

REALLY? people have been saying F2P since BETA!?!? LOL!

We'll see what other MMO launch over the next year or so, and how successful they are at drawing away players. Lest I give the wrong impression, I like the game enuff to have subbed (at full console price) for the last 6 months, and to have made crown purchases.

Rohamad_Ali

It is the best MMO out despite a bunch of ongoing issues . I voted it for best 2017 and honestly believe it is . Anyone that plays more then this can see most of the other games have even bigger issues . Swtor went F2P . Everquest and WoW look goofy . BDO is so grimdy it frustrates even more then here . Blade of Souls went pay to win .

I will always be hoping for ESO success despite criticism . The critism is only meant to improve what I already enjoy and fix what I could enjoy even more .

CaiWenji

Castle117 wrote: »

PS4 and PC versions are exceedingly fun and interesting with each update. The expansion later this year will be the icing-on-the-cake.

I started with UO and EQ 18+ years ago. When WOW was released i felt that it was what EQ should have been. I now am getting the same feeling about ESO being the game WoW should have been....

A lot of challenges ahead for ESO, but if they play it right, MMOs maybe back.

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Thanks.

Never played any of those other games you mentioned but I have had my fill on soooooooo many others. Usually before ESO, if it was an MMO, I would only play it if it was free to play. And like all of those are pay to win. Anyhow after years of many free games, and a few buy ones too, have played Guild Wars 2 and Black Desert Online. Nothing compares to The Elder Scrolls Online. And like you it keep only getting better!

So yes! May all the old negative things people have said in the past fade away and may ESO never die, but yet grow larger and larger. So large that we will have vast rich land full of people everywhere! (which it kind has, lately )

AlienatedGoat

I think that ESO might go F2P in the future. There have been far larger and more popular franchised MMOs that went that way (STO, LOTRO, SWTOR), so it'd be naive to think that ESO is safe simply because it has a large and faithful playerbase. Those other games had no less of a loyal playerbase and they still went F2P. So the question isn't about if ESO will go F2P, but how it could be implemented. I think if it was implemented correctly, a F2P model could still work.

Gordon906

I've farmed all the gear I want and now I'm waiting for new armor sets when morrowind comes out, so I can farm more... that's eso...

Rohaus

Who cares if the game went F2P. You F2P complainers seem to forget the first rule to a MMO... people... and lots of them.

As it stands, this game has loads and loads of people running around!

Handle it!

Nelson_Rebel

I agree with this.

With reservations, they need to seriously do a bug fix in issues that have been in existence since 7months ago. It's been insane

Dye stations blured out
NB teleporting into keeps still
VmoL Broken almost unplayable
Extreme lag and latency issues for console
Etc...


Some of these are very basic game functions that should have been fixed MONTHS ago. I support the game with my sub and I buy crowns but they really need to use the potential they have here and make the game actually playable for existing features since launch

wolfdoggie_ESO

Now if only it used more than one core.

KingYogi415

The AAA realistic graphics alone make it the best MMO around.

I don't get why people like these other whimsical fairy princess looking games, but I got over neopets when I was 11.

Cheers!

alexkdd99

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

Castle117 wrote: »

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Not going to happen.

EQ and Wow had something ESO doesn't: subscribers.

Without a guaranteed minimum of revenue to support long term projects, ESO is more likely to turn F2P rather than MMO.

It's a sad truth to accept, but if we want ESO to be good, subscriptions must become mandatory, not optional.

Then, ZoS can ditch Crown crates and focus on making goods we can spend our Crowns on which comes with subscriptions.

I agree with your assessment. I've been in enuff MMOs that made the transition to F2P that I know what that road looks like. Everybody should take a look at that tread where the LOTRO dev talked about the changes to that game and made reference to ESO.

Let's all wager and revisit this thread in a year and see if we're not already F2P, then it will be announced as a future intention.

Greed has NO bounds. In fairness ZOS is like all the other companies, they can make more from the whales with the things like crowns then they can with a sub model which requires them to maintain real value in the game to keep subs. Basically, they can put ESO on cruise control and profit with the standard F2P MMO models just churning out low quality cosmetics, and nickle&dime for QOL features.

How much of Morrowind is actually new fresh development? We know the WARDEN class was already in game since its ALPHA, so that's code from dumpster diving I think battlegrounds were at least a concept early on as well? What's the size of the current dev team? do they have the muscle needed to innovate and generate fresh content to keep the game in at least a B2P mode?

Yep, for now, and the foreseeable future there are definitely new players, but give it a little time and let's see where it goes.

Honestly people were making the same claims a year ago and even 2 years now. When they dropped mandatory subs there was people saying eso would be f2p in a year. That year has come and gone.

All indications I see show eso doing well in the current model. Things seem to of only gone up since 1T. Even if it was f2p, because let's be honest the game is dirt cheap, I don't see anything wrong with f2p. Some may say f2p = p2w, but I don't think that is the case either.

Some said crown crates meant they wouldn't add more cool stuff to the regular crown store, they were proven wrong. I actually enjoy crown crates, I know I am in the minority as far as active forum goers are concerned. Either that or the crate haters are just really vocal.

Majority of the naysayers predicting doom and gloom have been proven wrong over the so far short life of eso. It would actually seem eso only seems to be on a positive growth.

I don't see eso becoming f2p within a year, although I don't care if it does.

Cêltic421

Yea I agree it's a great game. I'm always playing it. I can't play any other game because of ESO. Gameplay nice, combat system is great, graphics are awesome. Got a nice expansion coming in June and can't wait for it. This game does have alot of potential.


I agree they need to do a serious big bug fixes update. Hopefully alot of the will be fixed with Morrowind.

Shadzilla

Castle117 wrote: »

PS4 and PC versions are exceedingly fun and interesting with each update. The expansion later this year will be the icing-on-the-cake.

I started with UO and EQ 18+ years ago. When WOW was released i felt that it was what EQ should have been. I now am getting the same feeling about ESO being the game WoW should have been....

A lot of challenges ahead for ESO, but if they play it right, MMOs maybe back.

Here's to 18 years and 20+ expansions for ESO.

Thanks.

If we could only go back 3 years and postpone the launch for another 6 months or so. We had such a massive player base... Which was destroyed in a timely fashion due to the insanely large amount of bugs/rollbacks/issues ect... Games like this should never launch with so many issues just to meet a deadline.

Waseem

Eso best mmo 2017?
Reported for baiting
Consoles cant play trials or pvp

zaria

Phage wrote: »

I think that ESO might go F2P in the future. There have been far larger and more popular franchised MMOs that went that way (STO, LOTRO, SWTOR), so it'd be naive to think that ESO is safe simply because it has a large and faithful playerbase. Those other games had no less of a loyal playerbase and they still went F2P. So the question isn't about if ESO will go F2P, but how it could be implemented. I think if it was implemented correctly, a F2P model could still work.

It might go F2P if population drop too low, this is currently not an issue and the the current low purchase price is no huge barrier and reduces a lot of problems. If you can create new accounts for free you will get way more trolls bots and gold sellers.

Pallio

Says a lot about the depressing lack of good MMOs in 2017.

AlienatedGoat

zaria wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

I think that ESO might go F2P in the future. There have been far larger and more popular franchised MMOs that went that way (STO, LOTRO, SWTOR), so it'd be naive to think that ESO is safe simply because it has a large and faithful playerbase. Those other games had no less of a loyal playerbase and they still went F2P. So the question isn't about if ESO will go F2P, but how it could be implemented. I think if it was implemented correctly, a F2P model could still work.

It might go F2P if population drop too low, this is currently not an issue and the the current low purchase price is no huge barrier and reduces a lot of problems. If you can create new accounts for free you will get way more trolls bots and gold sellers.

I agree. I just hope that in the event that the game does go F2P, ZOS considers that and implements plans accordingly.